Max Fischer Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Does Maybin have any LB experience? He's got speed but may not know the position. Too tough to learn on the fly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 For starters, Kelsay is also hurt, so they don't have enough depth at DE to try what you are suggesting. On top of that, Maybin has essentially no experience at LB. It would be outright crazy to try to teach him a whole new position from scratch in only a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 For starters, Kelsay is also hurt, so they don't have enough depth at DE to try what you are suggesting. On top of that, Maybin has essentially no experience at LB. It would be outright crazy to try to teach him a whole new position from scratch in only a few days. hee hee.....outright crazy -- Russ's new marketing slogan... Draft a tackle and a center and have them play guard Draft a tackle last year who had only played 2 years of college ball and start him in his second year Fire your OC 10 days before the season starts Cut your starting LT 6 days before the season starts Start a line that has the least collective starts of any OL in almost the history of the modern game Maybin at LB probably won't happen...but geez it might be a cake walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 hee hee.....outright crazy -- Russ's new marketing slogan... Draft a tackle and a center and have them play guard Draft a tackle last year who had only played 2 years of college ball and start him in his second year Fire your OC 10 days before the season starts Cut your starting LT 6 days before the season starts Start a line that has the least collective starts of any OL in almost the history of the modern game Maybin at LB probably won't happen...but geez it might be a cake walk. Then go on Prime time TV and almost upset the SB favorite that was supposed to destroy you and blow you out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 For starters, Kelsay is also hurt, so they don't have enough depth at DE to try what you are suggesting. On top of that, Maybin has essentially no experience at LB. It would be outright crazy to try to teach him a whole new position from scratch in only a few days. Looks like Poz is out for 6 to 8 weeks, so he wouldn't have to learn overnight. From what I can tell, it didn't take Suggs (no doubt a special player in a 3-4 system) to become an elite LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 hee hee.....outright crazy -- Russ's new marketing slogan... Draft a tackle and a center and have them play guard Draft a tackle last year who had only played 2 years of college ball and start him in his second year Fire your OC 10 days before the season starts Cut your starting LT 6 days before the season starts Start a line that has the least collective starts of any OL in almost the history of the modern game Maybin at LB probably won't happen...but geez it might be a cake walk. All of which seem to be working pretty well so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Does Maybin have any LB experience? He's got speed but may not know the position. Too tough to learn on the fly? I seem to remember in Preseason there was talk of Maybin playing SOME at LB. It would not surprise me to see him at LB on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 All of which seem to be working pretty well so far. Sign Copeland for DE depth. Put Maybin at LB. I bet he could pick it up quickly and would make more of an impact not having to line up directly across from huge lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Sign Copeland for DE depth. Put Maybin at LB. I bet he could pick it up quickly and would make more of an impact not having to line up directly across from huge lineman. I was sorry to see Copeland cut. I hope they can get him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Sorry guys, Copeland is a Lion. Has been since the day of or day after cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELLAPELLE JOHN Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 ummmm no. he is a speed rushing de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 ummmm no. he is a speed rushing de And Jason Peters was a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I seem to remember in Preseason there was talk of Maybin playing SOME at LB. It would not surprise me to see him at LB on occasion. I heard that too. When it's a running down it wouldn't hurt to put him behind Schobel. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Then go on Prime time TV and almost upset the SB favorite that was supposed to destroy you and blow you out Pats have 5 new starters on D. I would hardly call them SB favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonster Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 We might be able to use him at LB situationally, but geez, he has been very good with pressure coming of the line so far, I don't think that we want too lose that. Although with Schoebel and the defensive line playing like they are, getting pressure with four down lineman, we can experiment a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigc14120 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Looks like Poz is out for 6 to 8 weeks, so he wouldn't have to learn overnight. From what I can tell, it didn't take Suggs (no doubt a special player in a 3-4 system) to become an elite LB. Since one of the requirements of a LB is duribility, POZ is now looking sort of brittle. Two broken arms in three years.....time to look for a long term solution at MLB,,,POZ appears , at best , to be a part time player until we get a more durible player. Didn't Mitchell play MLB with KC before his stint at NYG? Anyhow, the Maybin idea might work...Green Bay converted one or more of their DE's to OLB when they went to the 3-4 this year. Maybin is young and rangy....I like the idea. And Ellison was burned twice by Watson Monday night...he was 10 yards late on the first one...and made the late tackle in the end zone on the second TD....he played well otherwise...but defending the pass means knocking it down or lose. And the OLB has to cover the TE upon occasion. Need help at LB for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Pats have 5 new starters on D. I would hardly call them SB favorites. The Pats are not SB favorites? You may want to alert the media, players, coaches, this board . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Looks like Poz is out for 6 to 8 weeks, so he wouldn't have to learn overnight. From what I can tell, it didn't take Suggs (no doubt a special player in a 3-4 system) to become an elite LB. Big difference, Suggs had training camp to prepare and more importantly it was the 3-4 alignment. Big difference between an outside 3-4 LB and a 4-3 LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 The Pats are not SB favorites? You may want to alert the media, players, coaches, this board . . . Just calling it like I see it. Losing Seymour was devastating. Not a coincidence, the Bills moved the ball with considerable effectiveness. While Vrabel and Bruschi were long in the tooth, and Mayo & Guyton are ridiculous athletes, there is something to be said for experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 hee hee.....outright crazy -- Russ's new marketing slogan... Draft a tackle and a center and have them play guard Draft a tackle last year who had only played 2 years of college ball and start him in his second year Fire your OC 10 days before the season starts Cut your starting LT 6 days before the season starts Start a line that has the least collective starts of any OL in almost the history of the modern game Maybin at LB probably won't happen...but geez it might be a cake walk. All those moves seem to be working OK to me so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Pats have 5 new starters on D. I would hardly call them SB favorites. Well they are. Have you looked at the power rankings. The funny thing is the bills almost beat them yet they are #1 andthe bills are # 21 I love the fact they don't justify their ranking this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 For starters, Kelsay is also hurt, so they don't have enough depth at DE to try what you are suggesting. On top of that, Maybin has essentially no experience at LB. It would be outright crazy to try to teach him a whole new position from scratch in only a few days. Speaking of Kelsay, anyone know his status/severity of his injury? Is he def out for awhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Just calling it like I see it. Losing Seymour was devastating. Not a coincidence, the Bills moved the ball with considerable effectiveness. While Vrabel and Bruschi were long in the tooth, and Mayo & Guyton are ridiculous athletes, there is something to be said for experience. Doesn't mean that every "expert" considers the Pats favorites. I've yet to see anyone who doesn't put them in the AFC Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 go with Holecek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Um... no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Well they are. Have you looked at the power rankings. The funny thing is the bills almost beat them yet they are #1 andthe bills are # 21 I love the fact they don't justify their ranking this year. Doesn't mean that every "expert" considers the Pats favorites. I've yet to see anyone who doesn't put them in the AFC Championship. I'm well aware of the national pundits and their uniformed opinions. Their offense is formidable but, as they say, defense wins championships and I think the Pats D is middle of the road right now. If the injury to Mayo is problematic, the Pats could be in trouble. Seeing the Steelers and Chargers in week one doesn't lend much credo to my doubts about the Pats, but I hold my reservations until proven toherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinWPB Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I know DiGeorgio was injured last year and released, anyone know his current status?? Did he sign anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 On Kelsay: This might sound terrible, but is anyone actually distressed by this? It will force Jauron to give Ellis and Maybin some time. I wouldn't mind seeing Spencer Johnson line up at DE either. Though the injuries to Poz and Kelsay make the releases of Thomas and Bryan look questionable. Though I will say, Kelsay was getting pressure on Brady in the 1st quarter. On Maybin: Linebacker is not a position you can just throw someone into because of the coverage that is required. Maybin probably is agile enough to cover a TE, but I wouldn't like to see him defending a slot receiver like Welker or a pass catching RB . Maybin is versatile but in a really weird way. He is undersized for a DE, but oversized for a linebacker. Also, if he were to be a linebacker, he would fit in most easily in a 3-4, not in a 4-3. Not sure what to do about Poz's absence, is there a definite timetable on him yet? My guess is he won't be back until week 9 or 10, but I hope someone proves me wrong. Once again proves that Bills need to step up their activity in the free agent market. Once you get passed the starting 11, our depth is very inexperienced and raw. Talented? Probably. But, absolutely no veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginald Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 So, Maybin's not really a DE, and he's not really a LB, he plays "speed rusher" - not accountable/responsible for anything else. Must be nice for Mr. Maybin. I've never heard of the position of "speed rusher"? Do we have a depth chart for that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABills08 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 6 weeks for Poz I can handle. Too bad our bye week wasn't earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 hee hee.....outright crazy -- Russ's new marketing slogan... Draft a tackle and a center and have them play guard Draft a tackle last year who had only played 2 years of college ball and start him in his second year Fire your OC 10 days before the season starts Cut your starting LT 6 days before the season starts Start a line that has the least collective starts of any OL in almost the history of the modern game Maybin at LB probably won't happen...but geez it might be a cake walk. You forgot: Watch said OL dominate Vince Wilfork and the rest of the Pats for 59 1/2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaLee83 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Where is Chris Ellis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 As a few have mentioned, he needs a training camp to learn the position and responsibilities, or at least enough time to learn it during the season, if they are even trying to teach him. If he would have signed early, they were talking about giving him reps at LB to see how he handled it but he hasn't played the position really before, that I am aware of. If we played a 3-4, different story, as they typically have a pass rushing LB, but not sure why would want to play him at LB if the main reason you drafted him, is his pass rushing ability, and we rarely rush LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murra Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Well they are. Have you looked at the power rankings. The funny thing is the bills almost beat them yet they are #1 andthe bills are # 21 I love the fact they don't justify their ranking this year. 1. It's not even the second week of the season, justifications after one game are silly. 2. The Bills lost. Half the teams won. By default, you should place them at least below 15 or 16. 3. You have to earn your respect. The sooner this city learns that, the better. 4. Its a Power Ranking. That means some guy, who thinks he is better than you wanted to make a fancy list. It doesn't mean the entire nation lives and dies by it (and I'm not putting words into your mouth on purpose, I just really think people should stop letting ESPN get them in a bad mood.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Where is Chris Ellis? Was on inactive list for Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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