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Thanks. The busted link had me wondering.

You see how the one in my post is shortened with an ellipsisisis. If you try to cut/paste that, you end up with the one in the original post.

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I'm sure his mommy and daddy will continue to pay the bills.

 

Mom's waiting for me upstairs :rolleyes: /. I have dad dialed in with a paid for Red Durango 4X4 / V8 and the nicest pad in Buffalo for a older single guy, he's happy. I left the Buffalo area 15 years ago today, whoa.

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You're arguing semantics here. It was a mistake. Mistakes can still be purposeful and systematic. and many, many mistakes = a big terrible mistake. It's not like he said it was an accident.

 

 

Hitler's relatives will be happy to hear that.

 

 

(Is this the first Hitler reference in this thread? What do I win?)

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Mom's waiting for me upstairs :rolleyes: /. I have dad dialed in with a paid for Red Durango 4X4 / V8 and the nicest pad in Buffalo for a older single guy, he's happy. I left the Buffalo area 15 years ago today, whoa.

James Thurber wrote a short story about you...

 

The Secret Life of Walter Mitty

 

Absolutely nothing you say is true, but I'll give you credit for a vivid fantasy life.

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A few questions that you should answer:

 

 

1. Have you ever been in a position of high esteem, wealth, and prestige and have it all taken from you in your prime due to a terrible mistake on your part?

 

2. Have you ever been to prison?

 

3. Have you ever been under house arrest?

 

4. Are you Mike Vick?

 

If you answered no to any of these questions, please do us all a favor and just keep your opinions to yourself.

 

I'm all for people saying Vick doesn't deserve a second chance. Anyone who says that has a legit argument and I can see where they are coming from. But people who assume he hasn't changed a bit after all of that happening to him? Who the hell are you? I understand this was all his fault, but I'm willing to bet 90% of the people on this message board have never had anything this life changing happen in their lives. To go from one extreme to another in a matter of months. It's unfathomable to think that he "hasn't changed a bit." Unfathomable to think and absolutely moronic to state.

 

I cannot stand people who talk about things like they have ANY idea when they haven't experienced anything close to it. It's sad.

 

 

Im with this wad, but I hope Mike Vick hasnt changed...who are we to judge what this dude does on his own time. If he wants to run a dog fighting ring, then so be it.

 

Viva Ron Mexico!

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won't happen...Ralph's against it and even if he's gone, Jim Kelly is against it

Also, sticking someone who could cause a QB controversy on the team would be counterproductive. Jauron's trying to keep his job...not lose it

 

Did you personally talk to Ralph about it? Where did you get this info from? just made it up probably

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Drayton Florence may not make the 53 man roster.

Yup. With Corner running ahead of him and Lankster impressing early on, how much would the Bills be paying a No. 5 CB?

 

Of course, on the flip side, McKelvin didn't exactly dominate in practice this weekend. His performance made me a little ... well, you know ... nervous.

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I love the Twitter fad with NFL players.

 

Brian Moorman posted a tweet awhile ago claiming that him and Rian Lindell are hanging out watching a baseball game. They're not at the club? They're not making it rain?

 

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRDDDDSSSSSS!

Well, they no longer have Triple-A baseball in Buffalo, so ...

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How many here are for like GOD said, turning the other cheek and forgiving one another. When will the past be the past?

 

Didn't you just post in another thread your opinion that Vick should never be allowed to play another down in the NFL? Great consistency.

 

GO BILLS!!!

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Fitzgerald and Hamdan suck. GO Bills!!

I was at camp on Sunday afternoon, and I was pleasantly surprised with how Ryan Fitzpatrick looked, albeit without full pads. Great velocity on the over the middle throws. Decent touch on the long passes. Hamdan looked very bad and could easily be cut to open a roster spot for Vick if needed.

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Aww, poor little Mike Vick. He made his own bed. He had it all before his moronic, evil decisions cost him everything. Too damn bad for that waste of life.

 

You're completely missing my point.

 

I don't take issue with people who have your opinion. I even clarified and [i thought that I] idiot-proofed that statement by saying it was all his fault. And even though I've always been a Vick fan and I would love to see him play again and excel, I would not be surprised or upset if he was banned from the NFL for life. I just think the way he's being treated right now is abusive and only for the benefit of the NFL disguised as a second chance. It's creating months of publicity, mystery, and above all else an annoyance and distraction for whatever team signs him. Let him in unconditionally or not at all. These months of speculation are not going to make Vick a better person. He's received much worse punishment already and this is just a stupid joke. I have been very impressed with Goodell thus far, but I think he's being a bit of a coward, to be honest.

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So in other words, nobody but a previous U.S. President has a right to express an opinion on how Obama's doing, because we haven't held that office? Nice "you never played the game" pull, but opinions are what we do here.

 

No. A character judgment is very different from judgment of one's ability to hold political office.

 

The way our constitution was drawn up, We all (constitutionally, not realistically) have the ability to be president. We have information available at our fingertips to educate ourselves on what would be the best way to run our country, and most importantly we have the right to vote for our president. Everyone who is worth a dime should be educated on the inner workings of their government and have enough knowledge to judge our nation's leaders. That is our duty as a citizen.

 

Your vote on Vick's eligibility in the NFL, however, would only count on a WGR website poll. This matter is not up to public opinion. It's up to a wishy-washy commissioner that is currently treating this matter like a circus. The NFL is a business, the United States is a nation-state full of over 300 million people that depend on their leaders. The NFL can survive and even thrive with an idiot playing back-up quarterback as long as it sells tickets, boosts ratings, and doesn't cause significant PR issues.

 

I could go on?

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"a terrible mistake"?

 

You think operating an on-going dog torture/murder operation, over time, for profit...then lying about it, is simply "a terrible mistake"?

 

No, I don't think it was simply a terrible mistake, but it was a terrible mistake nonetheless, was it not? Don't turn this into something it's not. Do you really want to argue semantics? Are you really going to try to tell me that Vick's actions were not the very definition of a life mistake that he would immediately take back if he could? And where did I say simply? Come on guy, keep your emotions out of this.

 

I only take issue with the idea that Vick "hasn't changed a bit." I think that's a moronic statement and absolutely foolish to say. People's outlook on life can change after reading a good book, and Vick hasn't changed after going to prison and losing almost everything he had? Please.

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No im an independent ball buster....and yes, old movies and politics are gay. its a football board.

Wouldn't know anything about the movie - never saw it. I was referring to a famous short story from The New Yorker magazine. You must be a Danny Kaye fan, maybe like Laurence Olivier was? :rolleyes:

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Wouldn't know anything about the movie - never saw it. I was referring to a famous short story from The New Yorker magazine. You must be a Danny Kaye fan, maybe like Laurence Olivier was? :wallbash:

 

:rolleyes:

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No. A character judgment is very different from judgment of one's ability to hold political office.

 

The way our constitution was drawn up, We all (constitutionally, not realistically) have the ability to be president. We have information available at our fingertips to educate ourselves on what would be the best way to run our country, and most importantly we have the right to vote for our president. Everyone who is worth a dime should be educated on the inner workings of their government and have enough knowledge to judge our nation's leaders. That is our duty as a citizen.

 

Your vote on Vick's eligibility in the NFL, however, would only count on a WGR website poll. This matter is not up to public opinion. It's up to a wishy-washy commissioner that is currently treating this matter like a circus. The NFL is a business, the United States is a nation-state full of over 300 million people that depend on their leaders. The NFL can survive and even thrive with an idiot playing back-up quarterback as long as it sells tickets, boosts ratings, and doesn't cause significant PR issues.

 

I could go on?

You could, but it would make equally little sense. Now you're apparently saying that we can't sufficiently educate ourselves on the details of the Vick conviction to form a valid opinion? Or that because we don't have the number for Ralph's private phone at Grosse Pointe Shores, we shouldn't bother expressing said opinion?

 

Again: that's the very reason the Stadium Wall exists, to "foster a healthy exchange of views about the Buffalo Bills."

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Every time you post, you reveal how freaking stupid you are. Nobody was eating these dogs, to my knowledge and I don't torture my chicken (or steal chickens from my neighbors to torture and kill) before I eat it. Perhaps you do.

I'm guessing SKOOOOOOOBY's around 15 years old, but stopped maturing at 12, yes?

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Key West? Last month it was Naples... :rolleyes:

 

If you ever been to Key West on vacation, you'll understand the answer I gave. Does the government / public assistance offer free vacation with blocks of cheese now?? If not you're SOL.

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Florence tweeted that he wants vick, is there a really a chance of this happening?

 

A lot of Bills are talking about it and we aren't hearing from any other teams.

 

BTW, what role will Florence have this year?

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More than a chance.

 

Vick could miss four games, or as few as no games

Posted by Mike Florio on July 27, 2009 4:01 PM ET

The fact that "Week Six" appears in the announcement conditionally reinstating quarterback Mike Vick is a bit misleading.

 

The first reaction right here was that he has been suspended six games.

 

The terms "by Week Six" means that it's five games.

 

And, as we pointed out previously, if he signs with a team that has a bye week before Week Six, he might miss only four games.

 

But looking carefully at the language of the release, the Commissioner has committed to making a decision "by Week Six." And that means he could make a decision before Week Six. Or before Week Five.

 

Or before Week One.

 

Our guess is that public reaction will be a huge factor in all of this. If it's positive, Vick could be back as soon as Week One.

 

Theoretically.

 

Meanwhile, it appears that Vick will be paid throughout the term of his suspension, given that he will be permitted to participate in all activities, with the exception of games.

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...es-or-no-games/

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If you ever been to Key West on vacation, you'll understand the answer I gave. Does the government / public assistance offer free vacation with blocks of cheese now?? If not you're SOL.

The imagination's a wonderful thing, young SKOOBSTER.

 

They used to say jerkin' off makes you insane - in your case, I think it's true...

 

SKOOOOOOOOBY

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Yup. With Corner running ahead of him and Lankster impressing early on, how much would the Bills be paying a No. 5 CB?

 

Of course, on the flip side, McKelvin didn't exactly dominate in practice this weekend. His performance made me a little ... well, you know ... nervous.

Was he that bad? I keep hearing allusions to the fact that he got completely burned on at least one occasion but was his performance consistantly poor? Would be nice to get some further details on that from someone who was there.

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