I Wonder Where All The Russ Brandon And The FO Sucks

[Steely Dan]

Another horrible poll!

 

Well done!

 

[Lofton80]

I find Bill to be one of the smartest posters on this forum. I look forward to reading his comments. He clearly understands the game.

 

Jauron has coached 8 NFL seasons and is well under .500 as a coach. The pieces to compete? Expand on that, what is lacking ? Because I have seen many so called inferior teams win games due to good coaching. Look to the 2008 Miami Dolphins coming off a 1 win season in 2007. The coach melded together the pieces he had to work with and they won.

How about the hapless 49ers last year that beat Buffalo on their home field with a new coach, they apparently had the right pieces to compete that day. The Browns who also fired their coach beat Buffalo at home with an inexerienced QB. Somehow this team that drafted in the top 5 found the right pieces to compete against Jauron's team.

 

 

Juaron's teams fall apart with turnovers, dropped passes, non challenged plays, wasted timeouts, conserative fg attempts which are coaching decisions.

 

 

Bill is right, Jauron is a lousy head coach; nice guy or not.

 

 

Newsflash Brainless Bill: The Bills sucked LONG before Jauron came to Buffalo. You cannot surround a guy with inferior players and then expect him to beat teams that have all the pieces in place. It doesn't work that way. It has nothing to do with Dick Jauron. It has everything to do with how the Bills continue to trade away their top talent every time a guy wants to be compensated competitively. So stop blaming it on Jauron. Give the man the pieces with which to win, and then if he fails to do so you can criticize him. But as of yet he has never had a team that could be expected to compete, and until he does, any criticism of him by idiot fans like you is nothing more than brainless thoughtless banter.

[Bill from NYC]

Hey look pal you are the one who is sitting here passing out blame to a guy you don't know, you have no idea how he runs his team on a day to day basis, you are not privy to even the most inane of goings-on at OBD, but you sit here and throw your stones of judgment like you are the Guru on Mount !@#$ing Woe. All I am doing is pointing out the utter lack of supporting evidence for a baseless claim made by an anonymous internet mongoloid like yourself. So which of us is the greater ****?

 

And once again you have no argumentative recourse for my point that the Bills sucked horribly before Jauron arrived, so it seems pretty absurd to blame their failure on him.

 

You really are a miserable loser, aren't you? Sure, they were bad on the sorry day that Jauron arrived in town. Is that what you wanted to hear? Does this make it OK for Jauron to continue this (and his own) losing tradition?

 

Jauron's losing record and losing philosophy speak for themselves. I suppose this goes a long way to explain your affinity towards him. Carry on!

[Williams+Williams+Williams]

I haven't dissappeared, I am still here and the FO still sucks. This years draft seems ok on the surface, and I hope it pans out, but it wouldn't be the first one that looked good 2 days after the draft, but then washed. It was a long time before anyone in Bills Nation doubted Mike Williams. Two years ago Losman was our savior, look how that turned out. Let's just hope, but one decent, not great draft on paper won't make him go from terrible to great that quick.

 

 

FO sucks and will continue to suck until we get to the playoffs. If we make it to the playoffs, Russ Brandon will earn the respect due.

[Beerball]

For the first time in a while, I think we are moving in the right direction and have a solid team that can compete in the playoffs.

Well, you have an interesting way of showing your optimism you flamingphukingpileofstinkingdonkeydung.

[stuckincincy]

Cincy, that's a horrible, thing to post how dare you post something like that. Shame on you!!

 

 

Wadda you think..one PUNCH! or two?

[Steely Dan]

Wadda you think..one PUNCH! or two?

 

After he stops laughing we'll decide. However, that's gonna be a long time from now.

[sharper802]

You are a moron. If the 2008 draft was so great they would not have had to sign Terrel Owens because they took Hardy instead of Eddie Royal, draft another DE because Chris Ellis is a bust, draft another TE who can go downfield becasue Fine can't, and draft three more corners because they let Jabari Greer go and Mcelvin couldn't crack the starting line-up until he was injured. We still have no LT. We have 5-6 people to play 3 interior line spots. That will be great at the goal line but with Trent Edwards constantly flat on his back from yet another blind-side we won't even get close to the goal line. And please answer me why we can't draft a LB who actually looks and plays like a LB?

 

 

 

If approx. 70% of the drafted guys pan out that will give Brandon his second successful draft in a row pending some injured guys to show us what they've got. A lot of people loved his draft last year too. They got McKelvin, Hardy, Ellis, Fine, Corner, Bell, Johnson and Omon to stick on the 53 man roster last year. The jury is out on Bowen. That's 8 out of 10 picks with one pick who was injured in TC so he at least batted 80% last year in his draft to improve the team.

 

He also traded for Marcus Stroud and got rid of the on field and in the locker room cancer JP. He signed TO, Dominic Rhodes, Hangartner and Ryan Fitzpatrick in the offseason. What's left open now is an OLB and LT. The OLB may have been addressed during the draft and the LT who's a solid starter may already be on the roster.

 

Overall I think he's done a B+ job since taking over last year.

 

JMO

 

What's your opinion?

[Ramius]

Well, listening to draft review shows is quite a bit different than reading the hopeful wishing of rabid Bills fans. Mostly the guys that actually worked in the NFL are absolutely mystified why the Bills did not address the LT position and they aren't buying that Langston Walker is a better LT now than he was years ago when he was younger, quicker, and less beat up. (He sucked at LT with the Raiders.) They don't buy the baloney sandwich that Bell is a superstar that nobody has ever heard of either. While they like many of the Bills picks, they have played, coached, and managed NFL teams and keep coming back to the point of "How do the Bills plan to toss the rock all over the field and not give their young QB adequate protection? It doesn't make any sense."

 

Brandon? He's an amateur being trained on the job and under fire. Belichick outmaneuvered him in the draft by trading out of the first round, picking up picks, and letting another team snap up Oher right in front of our great COO's bewildered eyes.

 

Good to know you aren't here to actually have any type of discussion, and your sole purpose is to crusade against the front office and state ad nauseum how terrible they are.

 

Anyone with knowledge of the game isn't going to think the draft instantly makes this an 11-5 team. We are still much closer to 5-11. But, on the surface (since this is the only analysis you can do 2 days after the draft), the draft was a major step in the right direction for the franchise. Failure to acknowledge that shows that you are here to do nothing more than criticize every single move the front office makes. Just because you dont liek all their moves and they've made bad moves in the past doesn't mean that every move made is bad.

 

And the "bills were out maneuvered by belicheat," is laughable at best . They had no control over what the pats* do. Funny thing tho: belicheat actually wanted Eric Wood, but we got him instead. So how does that fit in your little world of "the pats* can do no wrong and the Bills can do no right?"

[buffaloaggie]

Hindsight is 20/20 and now knowing how things shook out, the draft should have gone like this:

 

11- Oher (we are going to regret not taking an OT)

28- Wood (OL depth never hurts)

42- Everette Brown (1st round value at DE)

51- Levitre (see Wood comment)

121- Nelson (seems to be the steal of day two)

 

If we had drafted this way, I don't think anyone would be complaining. If we could only have known the future.

 

Personally, I still think Brandon is getting better.

[Steely Dan]

You are a moron. If the 2008 draft was so great they would not have had to sign Terrel Owens because they took Hardy instead of Eddie Royal, draft another DE because Chris Ellis is a bust, draft another TE who can go downfield becasue Fine can't, and draft three more corners because they let Jabari Greer go and Mcelvin couldn't crack the starting line-up until he was injured. We still have no LT. We have 5-6 people to play 3 interior line spots. That will be great at the goal line but with Trent Edwards constantly flat on his back from yet another blind-side we won't even get close to the goal line. And please answer me why we can't draft a LB who actually looks and plays like a LB?

 

 

 

If approx. 70% of the drafted guys pan out that will give Brandon his second successful draft in a row pending some injured guys to show us what they've got. A lot of people loved his draft last year too. They got McKelvin, Hardy, Ellis, Fine, Corner, Bell, Johnson and Omon to stick on the 53 man roster last year. The jury is out on Bowen. That's 8 out of 10 picks with one pick who was injured in TC so he at least batted 80% last year in his draft to improve the team.

 

He also traded for Marcus Stroud and got rid of the on field and in the locker room cancer JP. He signed TO, Dominic Rhodes, Hangartner and Ryan Fitzpatrick in the offseason. What's left open now is an OLB and LT. The OLB may have been addressed during the draft and the LT who's a solid starter may already be on the roster.

 

Overall I think he's done a B+ job since taking over last year.

 

JMO

 

What's your opinion?

 

I'm a moron and yet you can't use the quote feature for your posts?

 

Ok, now that the personal attacks are out of the way lets see what I think of your post in a rational way.

 

First, you can't judge Hardy based on one injured year. Chris Ellis I'll agree with you on. I hated the pick on draft day last year and I don't feel any better about it today. However it's too soon to really write him off. McKelvin wasn't needed to start last year and if a team can bring a rookie along slowly then they do because that is the best way to treat a rookie. Eddie Royal is 5'10" and the Bills need a taller receiver. That's why they took Hardy over Royal. The LB question is probably best answered by someone familiar with the Bills draft board and what was left after they addressed a lot of other needs.

[Beerball]

McKelvin wasn't needed to start last year and if a team can bring a rookie along slowly then they do because that is the best way to treat a rookie.

Actually one of Dick's biggest bonehead moves last year was keeping McCorner on the bench against the phins & starting an injured McGee instead. Cost us the game.

[Sisyphean Bills]

Good to know you aren't here to actually have any type of discussion, and your sole purpose is to crusade against the front office and state ad nauseum how terrible they are.

Coming from a guy who's first point in rebuttal is to "attack the messenger" is too funny.

Anyone with knowledge of the game isn't going to think the draft instantly makes this an 11-5 team. We are still much closer to 5-11. But, on the surface (since this is the only analysis you can do 2 days after the draft), the draft was a major step in the right direction for the franchise. Failure to acknowledge that shows that you are here to do nothing more than criticize every single move the front office makes. Just because you dont liek all their moves and they've made bad moves in the past doesn't mean that every move made is bad.

Oh, look! An army of straw-men as well.

And the "bills were out maneuvered by belicheat," is laughable at best . They had no control over what the pats* do. Funny thing tho: belicheat actually wanted Eric Wood, but we got him instead. So how does that fit in your little world of "the pats* can do no wrong and the Bills can do no right?"

And a failure at reading comprehension! The trifecta. It wasn't my laughable theory, it was what I heard some people discussing in an after the draft show on the radio. From a guy that actually knew what the Patriots and Ravens had hatched because he was there, btw.

[Steely Dan]

Hindsight is 20/20 and now knowing how things shook out, the draft should have gone like this:

 

11- Oher (we are going to regret not taking an OT)

28- Wood (OL depth never hurts)

42- Everette Brown (1st round value at DE)

51- Levitre (see Wood comment)

121- Nelson (seems to be the steal of day two)

 

If we had drafted this way, I don't think anyone would be complaining. If we could only have known the future.

 

Personally, I still think Brandon is getting better.

 

Oher is a big risk IMO. His motivation is questionable and with all of the hype that surrounds him and will surround him when the movie comes out I'm convinced the smart thing to do was to pass on him. By taking Maybin they got the best PR in the draft. What was left of the OT's after the Wood pick probably weren't worth drafting because they believe that anyone there wasn't better than what they have now. JMO

[billsfan89]

The front office is just average to me. Over the last two years they have had a few hits and misses but nothing great and nothing terrible. The FO is better than the bottom dwellers like the Raiders and Detroit but is no where near as good as the better teams in the league like New England and The Steelers. Yet you also have to take into account that they may not have the resources like other FO so that puts them above a few teams as well.

 

This years moves look good on paper but how they produce on the field will tell the true merit of those moves. Going off of last years moves the front office gets a C-. They had a sub par draft yeah Mcelvin looks good but the lower round picks are not looking like they are not going to pan out. But they made a good move getting Stroud, and Mitchell was a solid addition as well. But they handled the JP situation badly and the team finished 7-9.

 

This year I give them a B on paper. TO looks like a good move and their other free agency moves are O.K. their draft looks like it was good as well. They added a safety and pass rushing specialist to the D and beefed up the middle of the o-line as well as added a big time wide receiver. The bills FO could get an A- if they add Jones and Hill. However keeping DJ is a move that could really hurt this team so that move may be what tanks the off season for this FO

 

Lets just see how good the off season moves are perceived next off season

[Guest dog14787]

As much as I'm trying to like this draft I'm seeing more sub par grades than anything and I don't follow college football well enough to give a good assessment so I have to rely on some of you guys here at TSW to give me on honest assessment. I do believe however a little to much focus is being placed on DB's.

 

A poll should be done allowing everyone to grade the draft and see what we come up with, if I gave the draft a grade just from all the mixed reactions and my own opinion I give the draft by Russ Brandon and Co. a C , but a B for the combined off season accomplishments and adjustments so far, especially considering the big monkey wrench Jason Peters threw into the works at the worst possible time.

[Kelly the Dog]

Actually one of Dick's biggest bonehead moves last year was keeping McCorner on the bench against the phins & starting an injured McGee instead. Cost us the game.

 

Very true. That was an awful, fateful decision and it was evident the first play of the game IIRC.

[Kipers Hair]

I still say he sucks - give it a couple of years and let's see what this really looks like....

[Mr. WEO]

Another horrible poll!

 

Well done!

True. What is the point of these types of posts? These guys are looking for validation for their endless optimism.

 

Look, if you feel great about this team as it is now, then fine--enjoy. Some of us read this same stuff after last year's draft and have some reason to be skeptical.

 

If you must whistle past the graveyard, do it more quietly.

[Steely Dan]

True. What is the point of these types of posts? These guys are looking for validation for their endless optimism.

 

Look, if you feel great about this team as it is now, then fine--enjoy. Some of us read this same stuff after last year's draft and have some reason to be skeptical.

 

If you must whistle past the graveyard, do it more quietly.

 

You wouldn't even hear it if you didn't come into it.