Captain Hindsight Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 He's mobile and big. I have a sneaking suspicion he can complete just over 50% of his passes But can he win a game? PS i think russel is gonna tank badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 He isn't very mobile. He probably compares to a bigger, more accurate Byron Leftwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 That was supposed to be sarcasm. ESPN is already saying hes gonna lead the raiders to the promised land. i never heard a thing about him until LSU beat ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 How does one define Vince Young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Soland Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 How does one define Vince Young? Why are there so many songs about rainbows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalfan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 He doesn't run as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Why are there so many songs about rainbows? and dead kittens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Please. Is JaMarcus Russell known as JMR like Vince Young is known as VY? Of course not. You're nothing until people who don't know you casually refer to you by your initials. It took VY months to get Michael Irvin to give him his name. It'll take JaMarcus Russell at least that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Soland Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Please. Is JaMarcus Russell known as JMR like Vince Young is known as VY? Of course not. You're nothing until people who don't know you casually refer to you by your initials. It took VY months to get Michael Irvin to give him his name. It'll take JaMarcus Russell at least that long. And JaMarcus has the added burden of having two capitalized letters in his first name! That, like, doubles the initial processing time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 And JaMarcus has the added burden of having two capitalized letters in his first name! That, like, doubles the initial processing time!! Nah, he's JaM. Tailor made nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 The students called him J-Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Russell reminds me a lot of Daunte Culpepper...take that as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Russell reminds me a lot of Daunte Culpepper...take that as you will. Good analogy, but to me Russell's an even bigger version of Jared Lorenzen, that 300 lb QB that Kentucky had a few years back. He now rides the pine for the Giants. I think Culpepper proves it...there is such a thing as being too big to play quarterback in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Good analogy, but to me Russell's an even bigger version of Jared Lorenzen, that 300 lb QB that Kentucky had a few years back. He now rides the pine for the Giants. I think Culpepper proves it...there is such a thing as being too big to play quarterback in the NFL. I wouldnt say that. Culpepper rushed himself back from a major knee injury when he probably should have sat out all of last year. Instead of letting that knee heal his 275 lbs frame crushed it and his hopes of making a comeback in the NFL. However, when he was healthy and paired with good WRs he was a solid deep threat QB and could move. Short yardage situations made him a real threat to run or pass. I think Russell will be about the same if he's on a good team and keeps his knees from getting too banged up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanGuzman Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I'd take JaMarcus Russel first overall if i were the raiders... yes he has higher bust potential than say a Calvin Johnson. But the minute he signs on NFL contract he will officially have: "the best arm in the NFL". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 How does one define Vince Young? Another over-hyped QB that is still unproven at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 They are 2 totally different QB's. Vince is great due to his speed and composure. Russells arm is his best attribute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I was lucky enough to get a field pass to the LSU-ASU game two years ago and saw Russell as up close as you can possibly get without being in the game, and he was awesome. It was one of his better games, so my opinion may be clouded, but that guy is an amazing specimen and player. He's enormous, accurate, and he moves very well for a huge guy, too. I think he's a lot better passer than Vince Young but Young has those intangibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 That was supposed to be sarcasm. ESPN is already saying hes gonna lead the raiders to the promised land. i never heard a thing about him until LSU beat ND. No player Oakland brings in will lead them to the promised land for at least a couple year, but comparing Russel to Young is just all out wrong. Other than being big and black, they have nothing in common. Russel has one of the fastest, hardest throws I have ever seen. He flicks his wrist and the ball goes 50 yards down field. It's amazing. He's doesn't have elite accuracy, but he is accurate and generally makes good decisions with his throws. He is also VERY relaxed vs the blitz. He hangs tough in the pocket, moves around very well for his size, and can throw almost as well on the run as he can in the pocket. And you not hearing of him doesn't really mean a whole lot. Everyone in the SEC knew who he was. Every game plan was focused on stopping him, and most of the time he still shredded defenses. He wasn't expected to come out early before the season, so there wasn't much focus on him as a pro prospect. But with the way he played all season, and the huge game he had with national audience over ND made it a no brainer for him to take off early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Another over-hyped QB that is still unproven at the NFL level. AGREED! Why everyone has anointed VY the next Brady or Montana is beyond me. Yeah, he own some games but when you look at the numbers, they're what I'd consider "superstar" ... 12 TDS, 13 INTs, 51% completion and a 66.7 rating doesn't flatter me. Let's see what he can do when coaches in his division get an offseason to scheme for him and the league catches up. I'm not saying he's a bust, but he's the next Mike Vick... overhyped, running machine that ESPN and the NFL market the hell out of to sell tickets and merch and TV commercials. Mark my words, he's not going to end up the best QB in that class. I equate him to a hot prospect pitcher getting his first 10 MLB starts. The top ones usually perform well until the scouting reports come out and people figure him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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