DC Tom Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 These people played god with students' lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilverNRed Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 That sounds exactly what was going through the authorities minds when anyone with an once of sense would have alerted the university at large immediately. These people played god with students' lives. So every time there's a murder anywhere, even if it's a guy killing his girlfriend, we should lock down everything within a 5 mile radius just in case said murderer decides to wipe out a few dozen more people by locking them in a building and opening fire?? 25,000 students at VT, plus faculty, plus staff, and there's no way you can protect them all if this guy wants to go on a shooting spree. If they cancel classes, students are still packed into dorms. So, in summary: 1. There was no way of knowing one murder would lead to a shooting spree. 2. There's no way to protect everyone on a college campus if someone wants to go on a shooting spree. 3. WE BARELY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THIS POINT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeF Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Here is the official timeline of events from the Va Tech website... 7:15 a.m. Virginia Tech Police Department (VT PD) receives a 911 call to respond to a dormitory room at West Ambler Johnston Residence Hall. Within minutes, Virginia Tech Police and Virginia Tech Rescue Squad respond to find two gunshot victims, a male and a female, inside a dormitory room within the Hall. The residence hall was immediately secured by VT PD and students within the hall were notified and asked to remain in their rooms for their safety. VT PD immediately secured the room for evidence collection and began questioning dorm residents and identifying potential witnesses. In the preliminary stages of the investigation, it was believed the deaths were an isolated incident, domestic in nature. Blacksburg Police Department were also on scene assisting VT PD with establishing a safety perimeter around the residence hall and securing Washington Street. 7:30 a.m. Investigators were following up on leads concerning a person of interest in relation to the double homicide. Investigators from VT PD and Blacksburg PD were actively following up on various leads. 8:25 a.m. Virginia Tech Leadership Team, which includes the university president, executive vice president, and provost, assembled to begin assessing the developing situation at the residence hall and determining a means of notifying students of the homicide. 9:00 a.m. Leadership Team was briefed on the situation by VT PD Chief W.R. Flechum on the latest developments in the ongoing investigation at the residence hall. 9:26 a.m. The Virginia Tech community – all faculty and students – were notified by e-mail of the homicide investigation and scene at West Ambler Johnston Residence Hall, and asked to report any suspicious activity to. The Virginia Tech Emergency/Weather Line recordings were also transmitted and a broadcast telephone message was made to campus phones. A press release was drafted and posted on the Virginia Tech Website. 9:45 a.m. The VT PD received a 911 call of a shooting at Norris Hall, which contains faculty offices, classrooms and laboratories. VT PD and Blacksburg PD immediately responded to Norris Hall. Notice in leadership command center via our police rep of a shooting in Norris. Upon arrival to Norris Hall, the officers found the front doors barricaded. Within a minute the officers breached the doors, which had been chained shut from the inside. Once inside the building, the officers heard gunshots. They followed the succession of gunshots to the second floor. Just as the officers reached the second floor, the gunshots stopped. The officers discovered the gunman, who had taken his own life. There was never any engagement between the responding officers and the gunman. 9:55 a.m. By the same means as prior notice, Virginia Tech notified campus community of the second murder scene. Other notifications followed via other means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Do I need to shoot heroin to be that retarded, or will an open, bloody head wound suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Here is the official timeline of events from the Va Tech website... 7:15 a.m. Virginia Tech Police Department (VT PD) receives a 911 call to respond to a dormitory room at West Ambler Johnston Residence Hall. Within minutes, Virginia Tech Police and Virginia Tech Rescue Squad respond to find two gunshot victims, a male and a female, inside a dormitory room within the Hall. The residence hall was immediately secured by VT PD and students within the hall were notified and asked to remain in their rooms for their safety. VT PD immediately secured the room for evidence collection and began questioning dorm residents and identifying potential witnesses. In the preliminary stages of the investigation, it was believed the deaths were an isolated incident, domestic in nature. Blacksburg Police Department were also on scene assisting VT PD with establishing a safety perimeter around the residence hall and securing Washington Street. 7:30 a.m. Investigators were following up on leads concerning a person of interest in relation to the double homicide. Investigators from VT PD and Blacksburg PD were actively following up on various leads. 8:25 a.m. Virginia Tech Leadership Team, which includes the university president, executive vice president, and provost, assembled to begin assessing the developing situation at the residence hall and determining a means of notifying students of the homicide. 9:00 a.m. Leadership Team was briefed on the situation by VT PD Chief W.R. Flechum on the latest developments in the ongoing investigation at the residence hall. 9:26 a.m. The Virginia Tech community – all faculty and students – were notified by e-mail of the homicide investigation and scene at West Ambler Johnston Residence Hall, and asked to report any suspicious activity to. The Virginia Tech Emergency/Weather Line recordings were also transmitted and a broadcast telephone message was made to campus phones. A press release was drafted and posted on the Virginia Tech Website. 9:45 a.m. The VT PD received a 911 call of a shooting at Norris Hall, which contains faculty offices, classrooms and laboratories. VT PD and Blacksburg PD immediately responded to Norris Hall. Notice in leadership command center via our police rep of a shooting in Norris. Upon arrival to Norris Hall, the officers found the front doors barricaded. Within a minute the officers breached the doors, which had been chained shut from the inside. Once inside the building, the officers heard gunshots. They followed the succession of gunshots to the second floor. Just as the officers reached the second floor, the gunshots stopped. The officers discovered the gunman, who had taken his own life. There was never any engagement between the responding officers and the gunman. 9:55 a.m. By the same means as prior notice, Virginia Tech notified campus community of the second murder scene. Other notifications followed via other means 7:22 a.m.: University leadership plays god with 25000 students' lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 7:22 a.m.: University leadership plays god with 25000 students' lives. Edited that out..damn you caught it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 That sounds exactly what was going through the authorities minds when anyone with an once of sense would have alerted the university at large immediately. These people played god with students' lives. Congratulations. You've done the impossible. You've made DeLuca sound smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Do I need to shoot heroin to be that retarded, or will an open, bloody head wound suffice? For one of the few times in my life, I am at a loss to respond....I can't envision how you get to where that must have come from.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 So every time there's a murder anywhere, even if it's a guy killing his girlfriend, we should lock down everything within a 5 mile radius just in case said murderer decides to wipe out a few dozen more people by locking them in a building and opening fire?? 25,000 students at VT, plus faculty, plus staff, and there's no way you can protect them all if this guy wants to go on a shooting spree. If they cancel classes, students are still packed into dorms. So, in summary: 1. There was no way of knowing one murder would lead to a shooting spree. 2. There's no way to protect everyone on a college campus if someone wants to go on a shooting spree. 3. WE BARELY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THIS POINT! Don't bother, he's one of the idiots who thinks they really should lockdown everything, even though he's ignored multiple requests as to how and why.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 So every time there's a murder anywhere, even if it's a guy killing his girlfriend, we should lock down everything within a 5 mile radius just in case said murderer decides to wipe out a few dozen more people by locking them in a building and opening fire?? 25,000 students at VT, plus faculty, plus staff, and there's no way you can protect them all if this guy wants to go on a shooting spree. If they cancel classes, students are still packed into dorms. So, in summary: 1. There was no way of knowing one murder would lead to a shooting spree. 2. There's no way to protect everyone on a college campus if someone wants to go on a shooting spree. 3. WE BARELY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THIS POINT! In defense of AJ1 and some of the other jokers, there are certainly NOT 25,000 students on campus at 8 am on a Monday, not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Do I need to shoot heroin to be that retarded, or will an open, bloody head wound suffice? If it's an open bloody head wound please immediately (if not sooner) make sure you lock down the closest 26,000 people for the next few hours just in case whatever happened to you happens to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 And it begins...... CNN has begun showing bullet-point facts about Virginia's gun laws taken directly from stategunlaws.com (guess where they come out on the Second Amendment). You know, murder is illegal in this country already. So I'm thinking if Mr. Crazy College Kid has decided to murder 30 people, breaking one or two extra gun laws wasn't going to phase him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Sad to say, that's probably true. If this happened a week or two ago, Imus would still have a job. That says as much about the media as anything. Somewhere, Al Sharpton is sitting by himself in a lonely room with a microphone, a tube of Brylcreem and a phone that won't ring, sadly picking up the phone just to make sure there's still a dial tone, while he weeps and thinks "Damn you, Asian mass murderers. Damn you to hell." He had us right where he wanted us. Don't worry, Al. Someone will say "!@#$' soon enough and you'll be back in the spotlight again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Somewhere, Al Sharpton is sitting by himself in a lonely room with a microphone, a tube of Brylcreem and a phone that won't ring, sadly picking up the phone just to make sure there's still a dial tone, while he weeps and thinks "Damn you, Asian mass murderers. Damn you to hell." He had us right where he wanted us. Don't worry, Al. Someone will say "!@#$' soon enough and you'll be back in the spotlight again. Sharpton's only regret is that the Asian kid wasn't targetting black people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 ABC Reports: POLICE SAY THERE MAY BE SOMEONE ELSE INVOLVED IN THE MASSACRE AT VA TECH, IN ADDITION TO THE DEAD SHOOTER http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3045574&page=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 ABC Reports: POLICE SAY THERE MAY BE SOMEONE ELSE INVOLVED IN THE MASSACRE AT VA TECH, IN ADDITION TO THE DEAD SHOOTER http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3045574&page=1 Yeah, there is definitely a lot to be sorted out with this case. According to the wikipedia article (please hold back the Holcomb's Arm jokes) under "Virginia Tech massacre," the murderer shot his girlfriend at the dorm. Then 2 hours later, more accounts say the same Asian murderer was looking for his girlfriend . So here are the conclusions: 1. The murderer was so out of his mind that he forgot he already killed his cheating girlfriend 2 hours ago. 2. The two murder scenes are unrelated, i.e. a second shooter may still be on the loose. But probably most likely: 3. There was only one shooter, and some of this information being leaked to the media is simply flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Hey..its a time for bereavement and prayer. There is a lot to look at as to how the University handled the situation and lots of time for cooler and more trained folks to analyze and review the situation. I'm a little reluctant to point a finger at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Hey..its a time for bereavement and prayer. There is a lot to look at as to how the University handled the situation and lots of time for cooler and more trained folks to analyze and review the situation. I'm a little reluctant to point a finger at this point. Stop playing God with our discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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