BuffOrange Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 ~4.5 hours away; can't wait. Looks like Kansas, Fla, UNC, and tOSU/Wisc winner will get #1 seeds; or UCLA if UNC/Fla loses. Bubble teams everywhere currently rooting hard for UNC/Fla to beat NC St./Arkansas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Akron's gonna get jobbed...they're 26-7, but that painful loss to Miami (Ohio) last night kills them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Pirate looks at 37 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Akron's gonna get jobbed...they're 26-7, but that painful loss to Miami (Ohio) last night kills them. Â Air Force pretty much jobbed themselves with putrid performances down the stretch. They are 0 for16 in conference tournament games dating back to 1990. Â On the upside it's nice to see the Hoyas becoming a threat again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Air Force pretty much jobbed themselves with putrid performances down the stretch. They are 0 for16 in conference tournament games dating back to 1990. Â On the upside it's nice to see the Hoyas becoming a threat again. Â Â I pretty much always root against Georgetown (unless they are playing against a Bobby Knight team), but I agree it's good to see them rise again. It's good for the Big East and it's good for college hoop, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Go Red Raiders..... Â I pretty much always root against Georgetown (unless they are playing against a Bobby Knight team), but I agree it's good to see them rise again. It's good for the Big East and it's good for college hoop, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Go Red Raiders..... Â Â Â Â Â I love that Knight demands RESPECT from his players, but gives none to his bosses. He is the epitome of "Do as I say, not as I do". He is a horrid role model for young men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 ODU is also going to get snubbed. Â Just hope Syracuse makes it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 He is a flawed man for sure and the Knight argument has been fought every which ways, but one thing that can be said for his program over most others and its what college is about, most of Coach knights players come out of program with a education , while far to many by educational degree lucky to be hamburger flippers from what they have learned in college.  -I am glad to see you on wall again     I love that Knight demands RESPECT from his players, but gives none to his bosses. He is the epitome of "Do as I say, not as I do". He is a horrid role model for young men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 He is a flawed man for sure and the Knight argument has been fought every which ways, but one thing that can be said for his program over most others and its what college is about, most of Coach knights players come out of program with a education , while far to many by educational degree lucky to be hamburger flippers from what they have learned in college.  -I am glad to see you on wall again  That's true, most college coaches (BBall and Football) don't seem to give a rat's ass. But you can require the kids go to class and study and still be a good person. Dean Smith did it, Coach K does it, Paterino does it, I'm betting Roy Williams does it. All of those guys are gentlemen, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 ODU is also going to get snubbed. Just hope Syracuse makes it....  Hmm...maybe not...but purdue and ODU in is starting to make me scared WRT syracuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 And Illinois makes it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 And no...syracuse.....UGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 ODU is also going to get snubbed. Just hope Syracuse makes it....  I was going to mock you for saying this. Purdue & Mich. St a 9? Illinois? These teams beat NOBODY on the road all year and struggled to finish .500 in a garbage conference. What a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 WHAT THE *^&^@&%$@*&$(*??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 I was going to mock you for saying this. Purdue & Mich. St a 9? Illinois? These teams beat NOBODY on the road all year and struggled to finish .500 in a garbage conference. What a joke  Im as big of a syracuse fan as there is...but syracuse also beat NOBODY on the road all year, and didnt do so great in conference. This is like when you blame the refs for losing a game. True, maybe the committee mad a bad selection, but if they won a couple more games they would be in. Syracuse and only Syracuse is at fault for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewPort71 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 no WVU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Go Niagara. They are in the "play in" game!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted March 11, 2007 Author Share Posted March 11, 2007 Im as big of a syracuse fan as there is...but syracuse also beat NOBODY on the road all year, and didnt do so great in conference. This is like when you blame the refs for losing a game. True, maybe the committee mad a bad selection, but if they won a couple more games they would be in. Syracuse and only Syracuse is at fault for this... Â Marquette & Providence may not be Kansas & UCLA; but that's 2 better road wins than those Big 10 teams had all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Go Niagara. They are in the "play in" game!!!! Â According to the website below, there are still ticket available in Dayton and they start at...$10! Â http://www.ncaasports.com/basketball/mens/schedules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 According to the website below, there are still ticket available in Dayton and they start at...$10!  http://www.ncaasports.com/basketball/mens/schedules   Correction? According to Dayton's site, adult tickets are $12. Still cheap:  http://daytonflyers.cstv.com/tickets/ncaa.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Im as big of a syracuse fan as there is...but syracuse also beat NOBODY on the road all year, and didnt do so great in conference. This is like when you blame the refs for losing a game. True, maybe the committee mad a bad selection, but if they won a couple more games they would be in. Syracuse and only Syracuse is at fault for this...  Marquette is a 6 seed.....  Syracuse vs. Stanford  record: su 22-10, stan 18-12 rpi: su 50, stan 63 sos: su 46, stan 32 non con rpi: su 79, stan 90 road record: su 6-6, stan 6-7 top 50: su 3-6, stan 4-8 last 10: su 7-3, stan 4-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Illinois, 23-11, 9-7 in the Big Ten. Tell me what their best wins are: http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketbal...ams/schedule/IL Â Purdue, 21-11, 9-7 also Big Ten. Ditto: http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketbal...ms/schedule/PUR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 He is a horrid role model for young men. You do know how funny that is coming from you, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarHeadJim Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Im as big of a syracuse fan as there is...but syracuse also beat NOBODY on the road all year, and didnt do so great in conference. This is like when you blame the refs for losing a game. True, maybe the committee mad a bad selection, but if they won a couple more games they would be in. Syracuse and only Syracuse is at fault for this... Â Â Syracuse Beat Marquette by 12 on the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 You do know how funny that is coming from you, right? Â Â Absolutely! I'm a terrible role model for young men. Now, as for young women... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Haha, SnJ and I are going to be battlin' again it looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Syracuse!!! Â I'm a huge cuse b-ball fan. Â Very sad day. This is what happens when the pundits like Gottlieb and his ESPN cronies actively campaign against you for months. It plants a seed of doubt in the committee's mind. Syracuse beat G-Town, Marquette, Nova, and finished the season strong. They also outplayed Louisville for 38 minutes in the road, but blew the game at the end--I'd put money on SU in a rematch. Just a terrible decision by the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 SU vs. "in" teams SU's resume: 22-10 overall, 10-6 Big East, lost in quarterfinals of Big East tourney Last 10 games: 7-3 RPI: 51 (as of Sunday morning) SOS: 45 Key wins: Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova Key losses: Drexel, St. John's  Purdue: 21-11 overall, 9-7 Big Ten, lost in 2nd round of Big Ten tourney Last 10 games: 7-3 RPI: 44 SOS: 44 Key wins: Illinois, Michigan State, Indiana Key losses: Iowa, Minnesota, Indiana State  Illinois: 23-11 overall, 9-7 Big Ten, lost in 2nd round of Big Ten tourney Last 10 games: 7-3 RPI: 29 SOS: 23 Key wins: Indiana (twice), Michigan State Key losses: Iowa, Michigan  Stanford: 18-12 overall, 10-8 Pac-10, lost in first round of Pac-10 tourney Last 10 games: 4-6 RPI: 65 SOS: 37 Key wins: Texas Tech, Virginia, Washington, Washington State, USC, UCLA, Oregon Key losses: Santa Clara, Cal, Air Force  Arizona: 20-10 overall, 11-7 Pac-10, lost in first round of Pac-10 tourney Last 10 games: 6-4 RPI: 14 SOS: 2 Key wins: Louisville, Memphis, Washington (twice), Oregon, Stanford Key losses: home to UNC (92-64)  Arkansas: 21-13, 7-9 SEC, lost in SEC title game to Florida Last 10 games: 6-4 RPI: 35 SOS: 15 Key wins: 3 wins in SEC tourney, Alabama (then ranked), Vanderbilt Key losses: Missouri, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, LSU, Mississippi State, Auburn  Georgia Tech: 20-11 overall, 8-8 ACC, lost in first round of ACC tourney Last 10 games: 7-3 RPI: 52 SOS: 47 Key wins: Memphis, Duke, UNC, BC Key losses: Miami, Wake Forest (twice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 Syracuse!!! I'm a huge cuse b-ball fan.  Very sad day. This is what happens when the pundits like Gottlieb and his ESPN cronies actively campaign against you for months. It plants a seed of doubt in the committee's mind. Syracuse beat G-Town, Marquette, Nova, and finished the season strong. They also outplayed Louisville for 38 minutes in the road, but blew the game at the end--I'd put money on SU in a rematch. Just a terrible decision by the committee.  Gottlieb is a retard, but I can't put the blame on him or espn. Last night on College Gamenight they did the "longest 'in or out'" segment of the year. 'Cuse wasn't even one of the teams brought up, because everyone "knew" they were in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I think what hurt Syracuse was the lack of non-conference wins. Looking at their schedule, the only good non-conference win they have is against Holy Cross. For those who say they played Okie St, Wichita St and Drexel, well, they acutally have to win one of those. Â Â Maybe they should acutally schedule a non conference away game for once. Â Â Though, they should have gotten in over Stanford and Arkansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I thought Niagara got jobbed with the play-in game. They should win (I hope they don't get tripped up), and earn the right to get rototilled by the Jayhawks in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Maybe they should acutally schedule a non conference away game for once. nobody makes money if they do that. Â Dome=$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 nobody makes money if they do that. Dome=$$$   They gotta do something, that non-conference schedule is a joke, and kept them out of the tourney!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I feel for Cuse....they had a sweet run down the stretch and I think should have slid in. Â Not too thrilled with ND's #6 seed either. Two point loss to G-Town in the semis and we draw the same a UL who loses by 6 to Pitt who gets THUMPED by G-Town. Plus we got stuck in by far the hardest bracket, IMO. I would have liked to see a #5 or at least a draw in the East or South bracket. Â Compare it with Duke who has how many decent wins? One?. Lost in the first round of the ACC and ended the season with a blistering 4-7 stretch. Should have gotten an 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 They gotta do something, that non-conference schedule is a joke, and kept them out of the tourney!!! I think if they beat any of those freaking teams they would be in. 'Cuse had a couple of decent wins but this senior class did little to deserve anything. I love Demetris, heres hoping he gets a shot at the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted March 12, 2007 Author Share Posted March 12, 2007 I feel for Cuse....they had a sweet run down the stretch and I think should have slid in. Not too thrilled with ND's #6 seed either. Two point loss to G-Town in the semis and we draw the same a UL who loses by 6 to Pitt who gets THUMPED by G-Town. Plus we got stuck in by far the hardest bracket, IMO. I would have liked to see a #5 or at least a draw in the East or South bracket.  Compare it with Duke who has how many decent wins? One?. Lost in the first round of the ACC and ended the season with a blistering 4-7 stretch. Should have gotten an 8.  In the grand scheme of "body of work"; margin of defeat in your conf. tourney is way down the list. I don't see your beef w/ being put on the same line as L'ville given their road wins @Pitt & Marquette. Re: Duke I agree. Not sure how Mich St. & Marquette were seen as equals either in the 8-9 game...overall the Big East got hosed for the 2nd yr in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I believe last spring syracuse cancelled a game with bucknell scheduled for this season because they didn't want to lose to them this year (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 The NCAA wanted to keep those ugly SU uniforms off TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 In the grand scheme of "body of work"; margin of defeat in your conf. tourney is way down the list. I don't see your beef w/ being put on the same line as L'ville given their road wins @Pitt & Marquette. Re: Duke I agree. Not sure how Mich St. & Marquette were seen as equals either in the 8-9 game...overall the Big East got hosed for the 2nd yr in a row. Actually, you are right. My judgment on UL was a little off because I just watched them almost (should have) lose to WVU in the second round and then play an unimpressive, streaky game vs. Pitt. Their stretch leading into the tourney was very impressive and they were the wrong team to compare ND to for seeding sake. Â Our big losses to Villanova and G-Town, combined with our bizarre losses to So Florida and St. Johns are what ultimately sunk us. I just think it was a little strange to give the top 2 BE teams a #2 and #3, and then saddle us with a #6. We also sport a nice road victory at #4 seed Maryland on our resume. Â I guess I put more stock into the "what have you done lately" column. I think ND was playing as well as any team in the Big East leading into the tournament, and we proved it this week. I can only give my opinion obviously, but if Russell Carter's 3 goes in on Friday, I think we beat Pitt and win the BE. I also think Syracuse got jobbed on this same notion. Save a 3 point away loss to a desperate Villanova team, and they enter the ND game on a 7 game win streak. I'd put them in the tourney over an over-matched Villanova who basically got embarrassed in their last game (the G-Town game wasn't nearly as close as the final). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 I'm still in shock Syracuse didn't get a bid. Even though I'm not big on college basketball I follow it enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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