Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 you can definitely punt it after a safety Oh, I'm sorry. When he mentioned "free kick" I thought he was talking about the "Free Kick" rule. That's what I was thinking about. That if Dallas had stopped Seattle and forced them to punt from the endzone, and the Cowboys got a fair catch. You can free kick, without a rush, and if it goes through the uprights it's 3 points. But you cannot punt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I think you can punt it or kick it like a regular KO...but without a tee (thus someone needs to hold it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 I think there was a game many years ago, with the Fins. I am not sure whether it was Jimmy Johnson or Don Shula, but I think Johnson. And late in the game he took a deliberate safety, and then kicked an onside kick and regained the ball. It was a brilliant move and people were screaming what the hell is he taking a safety for? But it brought the ball out to the 30 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 To me what added to the drama/amazement on that last play was thet the replays I saw - it seemed clear to me he had every intention of stretching the ball out and diving - but just at barely the last instant he seemed to lose control of the ball as he started his motion to move the ball forward, which also messed up all his forward momentum. Game of inches.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Oh, I'm sorry. When he mentioned "free kick" I thought he was talking about the "Free Kick" rule. That's what I was thinking about. That if Dallas had stopped Seattle and forced them to punt from the endzone, and the Cowboys got a fair catch. You can free kick, without a rush, and if it goes through the uprights it's 3 points. But you cannot punt it. That is correct. The receiving team - if they've called a Fair Catch - can do a place kick - or a drop kick and if it splits the uprights - it's 3. I know it can't be rushed by the opposition (which I believe is why it's called a "Free Kick", but can the defense stand up at the line of scrimmage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Here is a deal you cannot pass on free jersey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 That is correct. The receiving team - if they've called a Fair Catch - can do a place kick - or a drop kick and if it splits the uprights - it's 3. I know it can't be rushed by the opposition (which I believe is why it's called a "Free Kick", but can the defense stand up at the line of scrimmage? The defense must be ten yards off the LOS. The place kick must be done without using a tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 If only this could have happened in a Super Bowl, my life would be complete. And like normal Cowboy fans, NO ONE is talking about it at work today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltuprite Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 which brings me back to the play just before the muffed kick. The on-field call was first down. the replay booth over-ruled. To me the replay was inconclusive from every angle on whether Dallas made the first down or not. Just what did the replay booth see that would over-rule the on-field call? I though there had to be irefutable eveidence to overturn an on-field officials decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 The officials have more camera angles than the networks do. And it was pretty clear even from the TV angles that Witten was short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltuprite Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 The officials have more camera angles than the networks do. And it was pretty clear even from the TV angles that Witten was short. yeah at first I thought so too, but when they kept showing the replay, it was really hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I think there was a game many years ago, with the Fins. I am not sure whether it was Jimmy Johnson or Don Shula, but I think Johnson. And late in the game he took a deliberate safety, and then kicked an onside kick and regained the ball. It was a brilliant move and people were screaming what the hell is he taking a safety for? But it brought the ball out to the 30 or so. Acutually, I think it was Shanahan with the Broncos, unless it happened twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilen Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 yeah at first I thought so too, but when they kept showing the replay, it was really hard to tell. While the exact spot might have been hard to tell, I think it was pretty easy to tell that the official running in making the spot was way ahead of where the runner actually was. There was no way they could allow that spot to stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Man im looking at the replay...and was he real close to that first down or what.... looks like he might have been just short... Did you notice how he was running with 2 hands on the ball???-that slowed him enough so he couldnt get in. As much as i hate the cowgirls---i felt sorry for the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 which brings me back to the play just before the muffed kick. The on-field call was first down. the replay booth over-ruled. To me the replay was inconclusive from every angle on whether Dallas made the first down or not. Just what did the replay booth see that would over-rule the on-field call? I though there had to be irefutable eveidence to overturn an on-field officials decision. I saw one angle that was totally conclusive. From the sideline, looking straight across the field, you could clearly see the 1 yard line hash marks, and also clearly see that the ball never progressed all that close to that, which is what was needed for a first down. I was wondering why no one pointed that out, to me it was obviously at least 1 to 1.5 ft short, which is where they eventually spotted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 He was 1/2 yard short. But what got me is the announcers never even acknowledged that there was a first down possibility on the play. He'd have had it if the Seahawk hadn't triped him from behind. There was no fumble. Seattle got the ball back on the 1 1/2 yard line. I was also surprised that both announcers, and the article today in USA today, did not mention that he had a first down possibility at the one yard line. In the paper they said a couple of times that he fell just short of making it in for the touchdown. He was way closer to getting the first (which probably would have sealed the game what with ability to run the clock down), but nobody mentioned it. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 No. He was short of the first.Dallas lost yesterday. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas lost. Dallas still lost. Romo didn't make it, and Dallas lost. Isn't it fun to see Dallas lose ! I just love watching them lose ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Flutie would have scrambled then drop-kicked it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Not only did Romo fumble the snap, Carrie Underwood no longer wants to be with him......Sad how dropping a snap makes you lose soo much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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