Live&DieBillsFootball Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 This is a hotel-office building right? I dont really see (other than visually) how this will "turn the corner" for Buffalo. 817010[/snapback] This is a hotel-office-condo building. The British developer who wants to build it is the same guy who recently bought the Statler building and is starting an $80 million dollar makeover of that property. If this guy does these 2 projects, I think we may see more things happening downtown. The biggest part of this deal is that there is no talk of public money involved in the project. Git R' done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Chef doesn't need to read articles. He knows everything about Buffalo's dismal past, present, and future, and he does not let facts or potential good news get in the way of his disdain as he glares down at WNY's unwashed masses. 817044[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 This is a hotel-office-condo building. The British developer who wants to build it is the same guy who recently bought the Statler building and is starting an $80 million dollar makeover of that property. If this guy does these 2 projects, I think we may see more things happening downtown. The biggest part of this deal is that there is no talk of public money involved in the project. Git R' done! 817047[/snapback] This would totally help the community. Afterall, Rome wasn't built in a day. Good luck to everyone in the area. It's funny, where I live, I wish builders would stop building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Im from Rochester. I guess I just dont see how one skyscraper will do much for a community. I was all for putting a casino in Rochester, but I dont think thats going to happen. 817041[/snapback] I hear yah, one building certainly doesn't mean that Buffalo has dug itself out of it's slump. However, any groundbreaking around here (or potential groundbreaking) is cause for celebration. I think what's different about this one is that it is 100% privately financed. A British businessman, who has not gotten to where he is by losing money, sees Buffalo as viable investment. That's definitely progress. Additionally, this is a building that can house office space for businesses, adds hotel space to downtown, and will include several high-end condos on the top floors. I would assume this only helps fringe businesses such as restaurants, shops, etc. And, this is not a Bass Pro- this will be the tallest building in Buffalo and alter the city's skyline forever. That's why this one seems to be more of a 'bigger deal' than previous announcements. And the fact that no public money is needed gives it an obvious advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 George Hamberger, fromRealtyUSA, who is representing Issa in his Buffalo projects, said he will be focusing on luring businesses from New York and Toronto to build a tenant base for the signature building. 816899[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 will you be able to see the new peace bridge from this building? 816968[/snapback] I'm afraid not - unfortunately that vista will be obstructed by the new Bass Pro bait & tackle shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I think downtown started turning around back in 1988, with the construction of Pilot Field. It was the first major development in downtown in years, it was done right and that started the trend that now counts the Loft Apts, HSBC Arena and Chippewa St as successes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Chef doesn't need to read articles. He knows everything about Buffalo's dismal past, present, and future, and he does not let facts or potential good news get in the way of his disdain as he glares down at WNY's unwashed masses. 817044[/snapback] You're absolutely right! And I have the cities wonderful 30 year track record to prove it. What makes you think that city will ever turn itself around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Don't worry, the politicians and unions will probably kill it long before a shovelful of dirt is ever moved. 816961[/snapback] They won't need to - the residents of Whitney Place and lower Allentown, and the NIMBY Association will sue to block the project. Carl Montante (Uniland) and Carl Paladino (Ellicott Development) will gladly join the suit - bringing in big legal guns from Phillips Lytle and Hodgson Russ - because the project would threaten their interests downtown. On the brighter side, it's a good thing the NFTA revoked the lease, cancelled all planned summer events, and shut down The Pier - so Uniland could get a quick start on that great new Outer Harbor project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loadofmularkey Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I believe it was Kevin Sylvester who once stated during his tenure on the WGR morning show something along the lines of, "If it appears as a sketch in the Buffalo News, it aint ever happening." That building looks pretty sexy. Too bad we'll never see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 40-story office-hotel structure also would be most expensive At 600 feet tall, the $361 million, ultra-contemporary glass and steel office, hotel and condo tower would eclipse the HSBC Center in height by 33 feet and would rank among the tallest buildings between New York City and Chicago. New Buffalo New Buffalo 2 New Buffalo 3 Go Buffalo! 816899[/snapback] This is going to look great right next to those sketches of the new bridge to Canada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 wait till they try to build this with non-union help. They are trying to build a building on Delaware right now, and the unions are picketing. They have gone to court and the IDIOT JUDGE made a ruling along the lines of "as long as the picketers move out of the way within 2 minutes, they aren't doing anything illegal. (i think the time is 2 minutes). Anyway, this means the guys block the driveway for 1:55 for every truck - and when you are trying to pour concrete and have trucks backing up it can really screw things up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 What makes you think that city will ever turn itself around. 817101[/snapback] I'll tell you what: THE SABRES ARE UNDEFEATED, BABY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I'll tell you what: THE SABRES ARE UNDEFEATED, BABY!!! 817220[/snapback] They sure are......not sure what that has to do with anything. But thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 wait till they try to build this with non-union help. They are trying to build a building on Delaware right now, and the unions are picketing. They have gone to court and the IDIOT JUDGE made a ruling along the lines of "as long as the picketers move out of the way within 2 minutes, they aren't doing anything illegal. (i think the time is 2 minutes). Anyway, this means the guys block the driveway for 1:55 for every truck - and when you are trying to pour concrete and have trucks backing up it can really screw things up... 817208[/snapback] Ah yes, the wonderful tradition of demanding that people hire you and doing anything you can to hurt your city/county/region if they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 They could build it next to the 400 ft gold arch and Virgin Mary statue that somebody proposed they build near the Bethlehem Steel site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 40-story office-hotel structure also would be most expensive At 600 feet tall, the $361 million, ultra-contemporary glass and steel office, hotel and condo tower would eclipse the HSBC Center in height by 33 feet and would rank among the tallest buildings between New York City and Chicago. New Buffalo New Buffalo 2 New Buffalo 3 Go Buffalo! 816899[/snapback] OH SNAP! THAT'S BIG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 They could build it next to the 400 ft gold arch and Virgin Mary statue that somebody proposed they build near the Bethlehem Steel site. 817482[/snapback] Between that giant arch, the new bridge to Canada, the Adelphia tower, and now this tower, we're well on our way to a pretty awesome make-believe city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Between that giant arch, the new bridge to Canada, the Adelphia tower, and now this tower, we're well on our way to a pretty awesome make-believe city. 817654[/snapback] Toss in the make believe built up waterfront, and the hopes of a big new economy, and you have the make-believe city of the 21st century! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Western NY; implementing bad ideas, one project at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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