granitestatebillsbackers Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I am so sick of this black-and-white, on-and-off, knee-jerk reaction BULL. Here's how most of the whiners on this board think the interview process should have gone: Marv: Did you have a winning record? Sherman: Yep. Marv: Do you want an H2 or a BMW SUV? Marv: Did you have a winning record? Jauron: Um...not really. Marv: Do you realize you have a piece of spinach in your teeth? Jauron: Um...spi-nach? Marv: Goddarn Yalie. Get out of my sight. There are many NFL head coaches who did poorly for one franchise and went on to great things with another. Ever hear of something called PERSONNEL? Do you really think that Jauron had a prayer of having a winning season in Chicago or Detroit with the players there? Did Kraft looked at Belichick's W-L record before he hired him? It was 36-44. Belichick was considered a failure as a HC by most. Give Jauron a chance, will ya? GO BILLS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Did Kraft looked at Belichick's W-L record before he hired him? It was 36-44. Belichick was considered a failure as a HC by most. 578192[/snapback] I'm sure he looked at BB's two SB rings a lot, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I'm sure he looked at BB's two SB rings a lot, though. 578196[/snapback] Not as a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitestatebillsbackers Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Not as a head coach. 578198[/snapback] The point is, there is more to a coach than W-L. Everybody needs to calm the hell down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I am so sick of this black-and-white, on-and-off, knee-jerk reaction BULL. 578192[/snapback] If you don't find the reactionary posts funny or therapeutic then you're probably better served by not reading this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Great post, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 What is with all these Belichicklets comparisons????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Everybody needs to calm the hell down! 578204[/snapback] BUT WHAT FUN WOULD THAT BE, G-DAMMIT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Not as a head coach. 578198[/snapback] BB had a lot more success in his NFL coaching career, even including the Cleveland years, than Jauron's ever had when he was hired by Kraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitestatebillsbackers Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 If you don't find the reactionary posts funny or therapeutic then you're probably better served by not reading this board. 578205[/snapback] Oh, it is definitely therapeutic--and funny, too! I think it was watching Soprano's post go over the 80,000 view and 3,000 reply mark that pushed me over the edge. I am really excited that they have a HC--and I can't wait to hear the boyz on NFL Radio breakin' it down tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitestatebillsbackers Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 BUT WHAT FUN WOULD THAT BE, G-DAMMIT!!! 578211[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I am so sick of this black-and-white, on-and-off, knee-jerk reaction BULL. Here's how most of the whiners on this board think the interview process should have gone: Marv: Did you have a winning record? Sherman: Yep. Marv: Do you want an H2 or a BMW SUV? Marv: Did you have a winning record? Jauron: Um...not really. Marv: Do you realize you have a piece of spinach in your teeth? Jauron: Um...spi-nach? Marv: Goddarn Yalie. Get out of my sight. There are many NFL head coaches who did poorly for one franchise and went on to great things with another. Ever hear of something called PERSONNEL? Do you really think that Jauron had a prayer of having a winning season in Chicago or Detroit with the players there? Did Kraft looked at Belichick's W-L record before he hired him? It was 36-44. Belichick was considered a failure as a HC by most. Give Jauron a chance, will ya? GO BILLS!! 578192[/snapback] I have 4 words 4 all these pessimists! Kiss my hairy buttox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitestatebillsbackers Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Now let's see if we can all get behind Dick Jauron like true Bills fans. Why, I'll bet that within an hour or three there will be nearly 34,000 posts and over 500 replies stating, in so many words, "y'know, maybe he wasn't the dude that I wanted as HC, but I'm a Bills fan so I am going to support my team." Hahahahahahahahahaha <falling out of chair laughing> hahahahahahahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 GO BILLS !!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 HE IS going to be the next Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Now let's see if we can all get behind Dick Jauron like true Bills fans. Why, I'll bet that within an hour or three there will be nearly 34,000 posts and over 500 replies stating, in so many words, "y'know, maybe he wasn't the dude that I wanted as HC, but I'm a Bills fan so I am going to support my team." Hahahahahahahahahaha <falling out of chair laughing> hahahahahahahahaha! 578262[/snapback] We all know that isnt going to happen...Most Bills fans are turning into Jests fans. Never satisfied and always ready to run someone out of town. That being said, I'll still be rooting for my Bills...what can I say I've stuck with teams through worse....Chicago White Sox since the early 90's, Sabres since I was introduced to hockey in the 80's, The Bills since I was born (1981), rooting for Dale Earnhardt to lose a race... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Now let's see if we can all get behind Dick Jauron like true Bills fans. Why, I'll bet that within an hour or three there will be nearly 34,000 posts and over 500 replies stating, in so many words, "y'know, maybe he wasn't the dude that I wanted as HC, but I'm a Bills fan so I am going to support my team." Hahahahahahahahahaha <falling out of chair laughing> hahahahahahahahaha! 578262[/snapback] I won't support anybody until they prove to me they can win. Not after the last two coaching staffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 ...forgive me, but I live in Oz and it's been 45 degrees Celcius- 3 questions. 1. What's a SUV? 2. Should I be happy that my new coach eats SPINACH? 3. Should i be concerned about my new coach's oral hygiene routine? It's very friggin hot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Did you think the nickname "Retard Rollercoaster" came out of thin air. The only way the horde would be satisfied would be with a reanimated Vince Lombardi on the sidelines and Ralph paying $15million a year in salary. Just be careful, if you read to much it makes you stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 BB had a lot more success in his NFL coaching career, even including the Cleveland years, than Jauron's ever had when he was hired by Kraft. 578215[/snapback] Guys like Wannestedt and Turner have rings from their Dallas days and look what that got them when they went elsewhere. The both sucked hind tit and still do as HC's. I don't give a damn what the guy did previously, all I care about is how the Bills look come September and unless you have a crystal ball, you don't have a clue how Jauron will work out as the HC of the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Guys like Wannestedt and Turner have rings from their Dallas days and look what that got them when they went elsewhere. The both sucked hind tit and still do as HC's. I don't give a damn what the guy did previously, all I care about is how the Bills look come September and unless you have a crystal ball, you don't have a clue how Jauron will work out as the HC of the Bills. 578319[/snapback] Which is why I said what I did. I won't support anyone on this team any more until they prove it to me on the field. No merchandise, tickets, anything until I see a change for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerstm Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I am so sick of this black-and-white, on-and-off, knee-jerk reaction BULL. Here's how most of the whiners on this board think the interview process should have gone: Marv: Did you have a winning record? Sherman: Yep. Marv: Do you want an H2 or a BMW SUV? Marv: Did you have a winning record? Jauron: Um...not really. Marv: Do you realize you have a piece of spinach in your teeth? Jauron: Um...spi-nach? Marv: Goddarn Yalie. Get out of my sight. There are many NFL head coaches who did poorly for one franchise and went on to great things with another. Ever hear of something called PERSONNEL? Do you really think that Jauron had a prayer of having a winning season in Chicago or Detroit with the players there? Did Kraft looked at Belichick's W-L record before he hired him? It was 36-44. Belichick was considered a failure as a HC by most. Give Jauron a chance, will ya? GO BILLS!! 578192[/snapback] It is all about winning.. I hope your excited about this teams lame future go Steelers!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Which is why I said what I did. I won't support anyone on this team any more until they prove it to me on the field. No merchandise, tickets, anything until I see a change for the better. 578333[/snapback] I'll tell you what...if it was TD & MM in 2006, I'd be right there with you, but any change for me at this point is a positive one. I'm ready for training camp...who's with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I'll tell you what...if it was TD & MM in 2006, I'd be right there with you, but any change for me at this point is a positive one. I'm ready for training camp...who's with me? 578342[/snapback] Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. 578347[/snapback] I've been a Bills fan since the late '60's. Old habits die hard. GO BILLS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Guys like Wannestedt and Turner have rings from their Dallas days and look what that got them when they went elsewhere. The both sucked hind tit and still do as HC's. I don't give a damn what the guy did previously, all I care about is how the Bills look come September and unless you have a crystal ball, you don't have a clue how Jauron will work out as the HC of the Bills. 578319[/snapback] No, no crystal ball. But if I have to pick a guy with a losing record as a HC, he damn well better have some other successes on his resume like a couple of SB rings as a coordinator, time spent working with a proven winner like Tuna, etc. Jauron's got one -- count em, one -- good year under his belt and even Bears fans chalk that up as a fluke. I'm pissed because he's largely an unknown HC quantity. This team, right now at this point in time, needed a proven winner to give the fans some hope after the last five years of disapointment under TD. Dick is definately not going to insipre a parade at OBD next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I've been a Bills fan since the late '60's. Old habits die hard.GO BILLS!!!!! 578355[/snapback] And I since the mid 70s. It just takes me longer to learn my lesson. Now they have to prove it to ME, not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 No, no crystal ball. But if I have to pick a guy with a losing record as a HC, he damn well better have some other successes on his resume like a couple of SB rings as a coordinator, time spent working with a proven winner like Tuna, etc. Jauron's got one -- count em, one -- good year under his belt and even Bears fans chalk that up as a fluke. I'm pissed because he's largely an unknown HC quantity. This team, right now at this point in time, needed a proven winner to give the fans some hope after the last five years of disapointment under TD. Dick is definately not going to insipre a parade at OBD next week. 578358[/snapback] If Sherman was such a no-brainer, why did all the other teams pass him by for guys with no HC experience. There's something more than meets the eye and I wish Soprano 90210 was here to fill in the blanks on why all the HC jobs have been filled and Sherm finds himself without one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerstm Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I've been a Bills fan since the late '60's. Old habits die hard.GO BILLS!!!!! 578355[/snapback] Yes they do die hard..(been a fan since late 70's) But they do die.. and I'm ready to pull the plug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitestatebillsbackers Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 And I since the mid 70s. It just takes me longer to learn my lesson. Now they have to prove it to ME, not the other way around. 578361[/snapback] 1965 here. As a five-year old. I had "55" on my Bills helmet. When you start your fan career rooting for a punter and linebacker, THAT'S insanity! GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 If Sherman was such a no-brainer, why did all the other teams pass him by for guys with no HC experience. There's something more than meets the eye and I wish Soprano 90210 was here to fill in the blanks on why all the HC jobs have been filled and Sherm finds himself without one of them. 578364[/snapback] Something to consider... "I never lived in another place where family was so important. Family is so important to me: my family that I grew up with, my extended family, the family that I am now raising and the Green Bay Packer family, and this state epitomizes my own values and my own beliefs." And the Sherman family has expanded recently. Sherman's wife, Karen, volunteers at the Marion House, a group home for teenage parents, and in caring for a little girl, the entire family grew closer to her. They are in the process of adopting Selena, now 3, this fall and now have five children, the oldest in college. "Those kids are very, very, very important in my life," Sherman said. "The most important. I don't know if I could be a head coach in any other NFL city. My son Matthew walks about a mile over here after school and does his homework, works out and plays basketball. There's no other place that you could do that." They've moved ten times in the years since he started his college coaching career at Pitt. Maybe he's wondering if he - and the family - are ready for move #11? Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Jauron will not help with ticket sales. It is possible, but unlikely, that some big name free agent signings will. The only thing that matters with the fans, however, is on opening day, Jauron will be a genius if he wins and a moron if he loses, and people will love him or hate him accordingly. And the same thing would happen with Sherman. We don't know. Maybe this is what we need. Maybe his OC will turn out awesome. If he is hired, he's ours and he should be supported until he tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 If he is hired, he's ours and he should be supported until he tanks. 578412[/snapback] He's yours. He's not mine until he wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Jauron will not help with ticket sales. It is possible, but unlikely, that some big name free agent signings will. The only thing that matters with the fans, however, is on opening day, Jauron will be a genius if he wins and a moron if he loses, and people will love him or hate him accordingly. And the same thing would happen with Sherman. We don't know. Maybe this is what we need. Maybe his OC will turn out awesome. If he is hired, he's ours and he should be supported until he tanks. 578412[/snapback] As much as we despised TD at the end, he was a genius for giving us hope with his off-season moves each year. We're off to a poor start in the ML-era so far, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 He's yours. He's not mine until he wins. 578419[/snapback] Terrific attitude, pal. So everyone and everything sucks until proven great? Frankly, it's a lot more fun the other way. And you're in for a totally crappy nine months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Terrific attitude, pal. So everyone and everything sucks until proven great? Frankly, it's a lot more fun the other way. And you're in for a totally crappy nine months. 578423[/snapback] Perhaps, but at least I won't be let down again. There is only upside in this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 He's yours. He's not mine until he wins. 578419[/snapback] Which is, of course, the quintessential definition of a bandwagon fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 One thing is certain, Jauron will be successful if he has good players. That's it. end of story. 99% of the head coaches in the NFL will be winners with good players on the roster. Marv got lucky having Polian around and of course Kelly, Thurman, Reed, Bruce, Metzellars, Cornelius, Talley, etc..... Even Marv would do diddly squat with the team we had last year. We didn't even have a QB for goddsake? Maybe Marv feels like he can be Bill Polian for Jauron and they can have that great working relationship and family environment that Marv and Bill shared. If Jauron is the guy, give him a chance folks.....Be Bills fans ans stop bad mouthing our own team before you even see results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerstm Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 If he is hired, he's ours and he should be supported until he tanks. 578412[/snapback] I normally agree with your posts.. Why should he be supported. He has proven nothing to me. There is nothing in his past that says this guy can lead a team to the Super Bowl. At this point, with the the Bills recent track record of coaches, I do not feel like I should support any coach, especially one who has such a horrible winning record (it is still winning that matters?) I don't feel I owe it to the Bills to even support them. If I did not live and die Buffalo Bills I would walk away and never watch another heart breaking out coached loss again. I just don't see why I need to be all happy and excited, when I don't see anything to even be positive about. At least Sherman has a great record. I could get excited about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Which is, of course, the quintessential definition of a bandwagon fan. 578426[/snapback] I've been a blind fanatic long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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