ganesh Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Rising starts at each position in the NFL This guys must really hate the bills....Clements who is making play after play is not even in the list of 5 CBs that are rising stars in the league.... And Bryant McKennie is there...but no Mike Williams....Uhh.. And Marvin Lewis is ahead of Mularkey....Hello....Lewis was 8-8 last season....Mularkey was 9-7 in his rookie year and almost went to the playoffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB27 Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 They (nationwide sports media) hate the Bills. Always have, always will. We need to win the big one to shut them up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 16, 2005 Author Share Posted September 16, 2005 Another person missing is Jerry Gray from the Assistant coaches list... The guy has the leagues #2 Defense 2 years in running and he is not a rising star...and the guy in NE has called one game and he is a rising star... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Rising starts at each position in the NFL This guys must really hate the bills....Clements who is making play after play is not even in the list of 5 CBs that are rising stars in the league.... And Bryant McKennie is there...but no Mike Williams....Uhh.. And Marvin Lewis is ahead of Mularkey....Hello....Lewis was 8-8 last season....Mularkey was 9-7 in his rookie year and almost went to the playoffs... 442463[/snapback] Probably because NC is not a rising star but is already a star. I think he is playing at his peak. I was surprised not to see Lee Evans in the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 I agree that overlooking Nate is a big, unforgivable mistake, but it should be pointed out that McGahee, J.P. and Coach Mularkey are on the lists. And Willis is actually USA Today's running back pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Nate isn't a rising star......he's already a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Nate isn't a rising star......he's already a star. 442481[/snapback] Which will be further explained on $$$ day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 To top it off, four out of six USA Today "experts" are picking the Bucs. Linky At least one of their "experts" figured out that his is an idiot. Jeff Zillgitt Of course, though, he picked against the Bills again. The line between genius and idiot is often blurred. I walk the line, swerving into idiot territory far more than I care to admit. Falcons over the Eagles, genius. Texans over the Bills, idiot. The hits keep on coming: In USA Today's fantasy football section, they listed the Bucs D under fantasy studs for Week Two. Buccaneers defense: After making Daunte Culpepper look like a rookie, Tampa gets to welcome the not-so-seasoned J.P. Losman into the Florida heat. The Bills weren't great offensively in Week 1, they may be downright awful Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 To top it off, four out of six USA Today "experts" are picking the Bucs. Linky At least one of their "experts" figured out that his is an idiot. Jeff Zillgitt Of course, though, he picked against the Bills again. The hits keep on coming: In USA Today's fantasy football section, they listed the Bucs D under fantasy studs for Week Two. 442502[/snapback] Let us reserve judgment on the experts till after the game, shall we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 The hits keep on coming: In USA Today's fantasy football section, they listed the Bucs D under fantasy studs for Week Two. Buccaneers defense: After making Daunte Culpepper look like a rookie, Tampa gets to welcome the not-so-seasoned J.P. Losman into the Florida heat. The Bills weren't great offensively in Week 1, they may be downright awful Sunday. 442502[/snapback] Let's hope they really are keying in on Losman for this game, so Willis can tear them a new ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Nice arse. Who the hell is the guy next to her with the Al-Queda tattoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 To top it off, four out of six USA Today "experts" are picking the Bucs. Linky At least one of their "experts" figured out that his is an idiot. Jeff Zillgitt Of course, though, he picked against the Bills again. The hits keep on coming: In USA Today's fantasy football section, they listed the Bucs D under fantasy studs for Week Two. 442502[/snapback] Why wouldn't they pick the Bucs? They've made a living making first year starting QBs into road pizza - especially at Raymond James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Rising starts at each position in the NFL This guys must really hate the bills....Clements who is making play after play is not even in the list of 5 CBs that are rising stars in the league.... And Bryant McKennie is there...but no Mike Williams....Uhh.. And Marvin Lewis is ahead of Mularkey....Hello....Lewis was 8-8 last season....Mularkey was 9-7 in his rookie year and almost went to the playoffs... 442463[/snapback] Nate was so beaten on the Troy Vincent interception, the potential bomb TD to Andre Johnson. If not for Vincent, Johnson would have had the TD for sure. Clements is very good, but he's not the best cornerback in the league. That being said I do hope Nate lowers his top dollar demand and signs long term with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 I defintiely say if you made the Pro Bowl (a somewhat accurate popiularity contest but a popularity contest nonetheless) you are already a star and not rising. Thus I agree with those who do not have NC on this list because he is already a star. However, the measure to me is are there players who have Pro Bowls to come on their resume and I'd name the following Bills as rising stars: 1. Moorman- should have made it last year and its probably just a matter of time. 2. McGahee- Also a matter of time as long as he remains healthy 3. Evans- His team leading number of TDs last year makes him an obvious choice He seems on his way to avoiding the Reed sophomore slump. 4. Losman- The jury is way out on this one, but his rapid rise and having O gurus as HC and OC and the incredible gift of having a former offensive minded HC as QB coach makes it certainly possible for a player with 1st round talent. 5. Williams- I doubt he will become a star because his meltdown last year took him off track and OL is difficult to see for pundits. Thus us a make or break year for him becoming a star. 6. Peters- I have little confidence that Williams will become a star and actually am about at the same level in judging Peters. Yet, he was so well regarded by scouts that he had to be activated last year or we would have lost him, he is a UDFA who blocks a kick and scores a TD last year because he is unblockable, he is judged to be the best LT propsect JMac ever saw, and in his first game this year he scores another TD on a tackle eligible play. I think he may end up being one of the feel-good stories of the year the NFL loves and if he actually breaks through to the line-up next year) either as an LT who gets a few tackle eligible TDs or blocks another kick or forces the Bills to use him at TE if there are more injuries I think he may be the star MW wants to be. 7. Fletcher- He is a bit old to be called rising and he does have an SB ring, but he has never made a Pro Bowl and there is a close argument on TSW whether he is in fact the best LB on the Bills right now (he certainly gives the most bang for the buck of any LB in the NFL. I mean talk about underappreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobill43 Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 My first post... I did come across an article on Nate Clements. Nice talk about teamwork, let's just hope he's on the team next year. Nate Clements Article on IGN.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Nate was so beaten on the Troy Vincent interception, the potential bomb TD to Andre Johnson. If not for Vincent, Johnson would have had the TD for sure. Clements is very good, but he's not the best cornerback in the league. That being said I do hope Nate lowers his top dollar demand and signs long term with the Bills. 442567[/snapback] Let me know which CB doesn't EVER get beaten, especially by one of the top 5 receivers in the game. I watched Jerry Porter toast Champ Bailey over and over again last season. Is he the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Let me know which CB doesn't EVER get beaten, especially by one of the top 5 receivers in the game. I watched Jerry Porter toast Champ Bailey over and over again last season. Is he the best? 442676[/snapback] If your "the best" then you don't get beat by a few steps like that which he was on that play. You can't just choose to look at the positives. He played a very good game, but he was lucky Vincent was there to cover his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 If your "the best" then you don't get beat by a few steps like that which he was on that play. You can't just choose to look at the positives. He played a very good game, but he was lucky Vincent was there to cover his back. 442715[/snapback] Watch more football, post less takes. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Watch more football, post less takes. Thanks in advance. 442719[/snapback] Awwwww, I huwrt his wittle feeewins. Nate aint the best, get over it tough guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Awwwww, I huwrt his wittle feeewins. Nate aint the best, get over it tough guy. 442750[/snapback] Yeah, you hurt my feelings - because I obviously have such respect for your football knowledge. Take a comprehension class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Yeah, you hurt my feelings - because I obviously have such respect for your football knowledge. Take a comprehension class. 442761[/snapback] Wow, someone's got anger issues. Just ignore my posts man, I really could care less what you think of my "football knowledge". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Wow, someone's got anger issues. Just ignore my posts man, I really could care less what you think of my "football knowledge". 442780[/snapback] Gee, thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought of that until you brought it up. Whatever will I do without your tremendous insight and sage wisdom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hey guys, I hear this place has reasonable rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Awwwww, I huwrt his wittle feeewins. Nate aint the best, get over it tough guy. 442750[/snapback] Actually if I'm think of the right play that was Vincent helping McGee , not Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Wow, someone's got anger issues. Just ignore my posts man, I really could care less what you think of my "football knowledge". 442780[/snapback] Squabbling over Nate ? Go find some nice chick to fight over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 16, 2005 Author Share Posted September 16, 2005 If your "the best" then you don't get beat by a few steps like that which he was on that play. You can't just choose to look at the positives. He played a very good game, but he was lucky Vincent was there to cover his back. 442715[/snapback] On the other hand, the fact that he has Vincent for cover is what allows Nate to gamble and take a more aggressive approach to the game...and that usually pays off in the long run..... Of course if he has Coy Wire as the guy covering his behind, I guess Nate is not going to take those chances....Bottom line is it is the absolute team game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Robert freakin Gallery? The only reason he's up there is becuz thats the only young OL the idiotic readers of usa today know...i posted about this article last week becuz they had a great write up on willis where he said that "JP was gonna prove you all wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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