Billsatlastin2018 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 11 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Tre White had himself a game. Crazy pick (even though it didn't really enhance field position), and a touchdown saving, picture-perfect play in the end zone against Hollins. Hollins catches that, we have a different game. Well done Mr. White! He did indeed! congrats! On balance, the Int was ill advised. The percentage likelihood of better field position on the next play- 4th Down punt, was significant. 1 Quote
Spiderweb Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: He did indeed! congrats! On balance, the Int was ill advised. The percentage likelihood of better field position on the next play- 4th Down punt, was significant. Really? More likely to have been pretty similar, and maybe worse.... 1 Quote
BuffaloBill Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Veteran players matter at this time of the year. Tre has looked questionable at times but he had himself a game yesterday. 1 Quote
BearNorth Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: As I said at points during the season, the stench of Bernard and Rapp made everyone on the defense look bad. Pretty sad when this can be said about your lone defensive captain and green dot guy. With a "defensive guru" as head coach. 1 Quote
Jalan81 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, ***** said: I think Hairston and AJE were the main reasons for that 60ish yard TD run they had. Bishop maybe some too. From the one replay you see AJE and Hairston way over commit and loose contain. Excusable for a rookie and you hope he learns his lesson. What was AJ’s excuse? Quote
Mango Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, newcam2012 said: To be fair, he was pretty bad early in the season. Teams were absolutely targeting him. Do you even watch the games? How can you say that they never played poorly. That's a really surprising statement. I'll just leave it at that. No. He had some situations where he didn't rise to the occasion. He isn't the same player he was. But he is at a "competent" level for a second boundary corner. He was not picked on. I swear people just saw "7" get blown up early season and just assumed it was 27 and not 47. For reference this is Tre v Benford as of October 15 (grabbing from another post earlier in the year). It would be another 6 weeks (Week 13) until Benford deflected his first pass. That is right, Chrisitian Benford didn't deflect a pass for 13 weeks. Benford - 32 targets, 21 completions, 198 yards, 0 passes defended - 4 TD White- 20 targets, 14 completions, 113 yards, 3 passes defended - 1 TD 1 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Mango said: No. He had some situations where he didn't rise to the occasion. He isn't the same player he was. But he is at a "competent" level for a second boundary corner. He was not picked on. I swear people just saw "7" get blown up early season and just assumed it was 27 and not 47. For reference this is Tre v Benford as of October 15 (grabbing from another post earlier in the year). It would be another 6 weeks (Week 13) until Benford deflected his first pass. That is right, Chrisitian Benford didn't deflect a pass for 13 weeks. Benford - 32 targets, 21 completions, 198 yards, 0 passes defended - 4 TD White- 20 targets, 14 completions, 113 yards, 3 passes defended - 1 TD I remember people here citing Tre faiing to stay with Jaylen Waddle (4.37 forty) on a crosser through traffic as proof that he was washed. I don't claim to know much about football but some people have no clue... but still feel free to post. But hey, it's a free country... 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Mango said: No. He had some situations where he didn't rise to the occasion. He isn't the same player he was. But he is at a "competent" level for a second boundary corner. He was not picked on. I swear people just saw "7" get blown up early season and just assumed it was 27 and not 47. For reference this is Tre v Benford as of October 15 (grabbing from another post earlier in the year). It would be another 6 weeks (Week 13) until Benford deflected his first pass. That is right, Chrisitian Benford didn't deflect a pass for 13 weeks. Benford - 32 targets, 21 completions, 198 yards, 0 passes defended - 4 TD White- 20 targets, 14 completions, 113 yards, 3 passes defended - 1 TD Have to disagree with your assessment. I believe Tre was getting exposed early on. I trust my eyes. Joe Marino talked about the limitations of Tre and hoe teams were taking advantage of that. Imho, he was more of a liability than an asset. Now, I think that tide has turned. Quote
MarlinTheMagician Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago I think some of it for both Milano and Tre, has to be timing and rhythm. When you are out of the flow of the game for a while, or limited in what you can do due to injury such that you can't engage in the game flow at 100% speed, it must take a bit to get rhythm and timing back to play at your peak even if you are full go. These are such great athletes the margins are razor thin. Quote
Mango Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Have to disagree with your assessment. I believe Tre was getting exposed early on. I trust my eyes. Joe Marino talked about the limitations of Tre and hoe teams were taking advantage of that. Imho, he was more of a liability than an asset. Now, I think that tide has turned. He was targeted less, for a lower completion percentage, less touchdowns, and more passes defended than the guy playing opposite him. Benford didn't deflect a pass for 13 straight weeks. I am not saying that Tre is a world beater anymore. He isn't. But how can anybody say "I trust my eyes, Tre was getting picked on" When he allowed a lower completion percentage, less TD's, forced less targets, and batted down more passes than the guy playng the same position opposite him. Joe Marino is a fine resource. But he isn't the end-all-be-all. And I vehemently disagree that Tre was a major weakness on the defense when compared to his peers both DB's and front 7. Quote
JoeF Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: Veteran players matter at this time of the year. Tre has looked questionable at times but he had himself a game yesterday. The performance against the Dolphins/Waddle was embarrassing. He knew it....since then he has been really good. He looks healthy, focused and is playing with good leverage in both the run and the pass game. He is not a player with electric speed anymore but he did a good job yesterday when he was forced into the CB1 role...This was a good signing.... Quote
MarlinTheMagician Posted 38 minutes ago Author Posted 38 minutes ago He looked hobbled still when chasing Waddle. Now he doesn't. Sure he is slower than he was, but smarter too! Quote
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