If New England wins (Next Week), they officially win the East.

[Ghost_002!]

Just now, boyst said:

You're acting like it's a complaint to mentally merry-go round...

 

You're on a Buffalo bills football message board... Where 24/7 there is silly talk about football. Abstract thought.  Casual conversation...

 

Why not participate?

 

 

Bruh no complaint. It's also a free country. I engaged in a football convo with you for a few mins now. If I choose to end the convo, I can. Just as you have that same liberty. 

[boyst]

14 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Bruh no complaint. It's also a free country. I engaged in a football convo with you for a few mins now. If I choose to end the convo, I can. Just as you have that same liberty. 

Well, since you won't answer it I will...

 

If this bills lose the same way they did the first time the noise around the team will be huge. The Patriots will be anointed a new dynasty and Maye will surge in the mouths of those who run them as the MVP.

 

The bills ego will suffer a little bit until the playoffs when they dial it in. The January Bills are monsters 

 

 

If the Bills win this game it means little to them. They'll take care of business. The Patriots will have a chip on their shoulder which is what vrabel thrives on. They'll run the table if they lose to the Bills. 

[Ghost_002!]

8 minutes ago, boyst said:

Well, since you won't answer it I will...

 

If this bills lose the same way they did the first time the noise around the team will be huge. The Patriots will be anointed a new dynasty and Maye will surge in the mouths of those who run them as the MVP.

 

The bills ego will suffer a little bit until the playoffs when they dial it in. The January Bills are monsters 

 

 

If the Bills win this game it means little to them. They'll take care of business. The Patriots will have a chip on their shoulder which is what vrabel thrives on. They'll run the table if they lose to the Bills. 

 

 

No doubt the Bills are a good team BUT " Jan Bills are monsters" without a SB appearance or conference championship?

[BVBILLS]

Win or lose, we are 0-0 in the playoffs. I'd rather win that game

[SoMAn]

Good. I have enough AFC East Division Champion sweatshirts and tees, going back to 1990.

I need a new one that shows AFC East... 2nd Place,  2025

[Jester]

On 12/7/2025 at 4:48 PM, SoonerBillsFan said:

 

They pointed out Vrabel is undefeated coming out of the bye as a HC.  Need to put an end to that.

And they just jinxed them. GO BILLS! 

[dollars 2 donuts]

1 hour ago, Seventeen said:

 

Full fade mode ? The Steelers just beat the Ravens in Baltimore - Bengals could have beaten us (Burrow looks great), and Tampa will have Evans back. 

 

 

I believe I said full slow fade, but yeah.  The Bengals, Ravens, and Steelers are a combined 10-14 in their last 8 games each, which includes wins against each other and that little win streak that the Ravens were on.

 

Please lets not make them into something more than what they are, which is a group of not very good teams where someone has to win.

 

Additionally the Bucs have been decimated by certain injuries, but regardless they are 2-6 in their last 8 for a total of 7-17 for the Phins opponents in the next few games.

 

If they don't win, then they don't win.  However, that is still a schedule that a team could take advantage.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:30 PM by dollars 2 donuts

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

No doubt the Bills are a good team BUT " Jan Bills are monsters" without a SB appearance or conference championship?

to be fair the super bowl is in february

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

No doubt the Bills are a good team BUT " Jan Bills are monsters" without a SB appearance or conference championship?

Really reminds me of when NE blocked manning from a title for years with kc/buffalo

 

if it was just the bills struggling against kc that would be one thing but outside of the chiefs straight up melting down from an offensive drive before halftime straight through the end of the game against cincy (and only losing by 3 in OT) and having the lost OT coin flip scenario against NE they haven’t lost to an afc team 

[Ghost_002!]

37 minutes ago, boyst said:

to be fair the super bowl is in february

 That's fair....but then that would mean your the "consolation prize monsters!"

29 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Really reminds me of when NE blocked manning from a title for years with kc/buffalo

 

if it was just the bills struggling against kc that would be one thing but outside of the chiefs straight up melting down from an offensive drive before halftime straight through the end of the game against cincy (and only losing by 3 in OT) and having the lost OT coin flip scenario against NE they haven’t lost to an afc team 

 

 

Sure, yea..but at the end of the day it comes down to did you win it all or not. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:37 PM by Ghost_002!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

11 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 That's fair....but then that would mean your the "consolation prize monsters!"

 

 

Sure, yea..but at the end of the day it comes down to did you win it all or not. 

Depending on the convo you’re having sure…I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say the bills typically play good football in December/January and feeling optimistic about their chances against this playoff field based on that though.

 

but obviously if the question is have they won anything the answer is definitely no lol. none of the other afc teams in the field have won anything recently enough to matter though.  Heck 4 of the franchises have never won a superbowl at all 

 

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

Weird and interesting scenario with too many ifs... but plausible ones:

 

Let's say Buffalo beats NE and the Browns the following week and NE also loses to the Ravens. 

 

If that were to happen, the Eagles game would be completely and utterly meaningless as far as the division goes and (I'm pretty sure) the Bills will have already clinched a playoff spot.

 

The final game vs. the Jets would then be a game you would have to win regardless of whether the Patriots were to lose against the Jets or Dolphins.  This is all assuming the Patriots don't just lose out, which I don't think is a possibility.

 

Do you rest your starters vs. the Eagles?  It'd be a weird situation where you could rest your starters in the 2nd to last game of the season but would have to go into the final game viewing that as the start of the playoffs in a way.

[iinii]

On 12/7/2025 at 4:47 PM, dakarider17 said:

I think the Pats lose 3 of their last 4 games.  They've had a perfect storm thus far.  That storm is gone. 

Really? The odds of that happening are somewhere between recess and lunch. 

[iinii]

On 12/8/2025 at 10:11 AM, Matt_In_NH said:

8 of new englands wins are vs teams ranked 11 or worse in their conference.  You can only play the teams on your schedule but they have not really been tested much.  Next two weeks and then the playoffs will unmask who they really are 

Who they are is a Mike Vrabel team. There is an old saying that says something to the effect of , “ he can take  a hissin and beat a yoursin and he can take a yoursin and beat a hissin”. Zak Keefer of the Athletic wrote an article at the beginning of the season that talked about, among other things, how some coaches have one playbook and some coaches adapt their book to whatever their team can do. Vrabel is the latter. He took 90 some odd players, thanks to injuries how far in Tennessee? He has his teams ready and he is probably on par with Parcells when it comes to respect in the locker room. The turn around in NE is huge, which begs the question were they that bad or just not well coached? History says good teams with late season bye equals playoff run. And I don’t believe in jinxes. They happen, but probability and possibility are two different things. I’ll see myself out. 

[Sweats]

On 12/9/2025 at 9:10 AM, boyst said:

Well, since you won't answer it I will...

 

If this bills lose the same way they did the first time the noise around the team will be huge. The Patriots will be anointed a new dynasty and Maye will surge in the mouths of those who run them as the MVP.

 

The bills ego will suffer a little bit until the playoffs when they dial it in. The January Bills are monsters 

 

 

If the Bills win this game it means little to them. They'll take care of business. The Patriots will have a chip on their shoulder which is what vrabel thrives on. They'll run the table if they lose to the Bills. 

 

 

 

Maybe NE runs the table and maybe they don't and maybe this game means very little to Buffalo, however, if the Bills have their backs against the wall in December, i'll take those odds alllllllllllll day long.

[Matt_In_NH]

3 hours ago, iinii said:

Who they are is a Mike Vrabel team. There is an old saying that says something to the effect of , “ he can take  a hissin and beat a yoursin and he can take a yoursin and beat a hissin”. Zak Keefer of the Athletic wrote an article at the beginning of the season that talked about, among other things, how some coaches have one playbook and some coaches adapt their book to whatever their team can do. Vrabel is the latter. He took 90 some odd players, thanks to injuries how far in Tennessee? He has his teams ready and he is probably on par with Parcells when it comes to respect in the locker room. The turn around in NE is huge, which begs the question were they that bad or just not well coached? History says good teams with late season bye equals playoff run. And I don’t believe in jinxes. They happen, but probability and possibility are two different things. I’ll see myself out. 

Mike vrabel teams are 54-45 and 2-3 in playoffs.   Both wins happened one year.   I respect him and the patriots but I don’t think he is on par with parcells. The biggest reason other than vrabel is the performance of Maye which is MVP quality.