Sean haters...if the Bills win the Super Bowl this year, you will...

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

No offense to Shakir who I think would make a great WR 3 or even a decent a WR 2, but he isn't a #1. Imagine Allen with Chase, Higgins or Cee-Dee and Pickens or Smith and Brown to go along with Shakir, Kincaid and Cook. Cook would be so much more dangerous if teams had to respect our passing game. With a legit WR 1 and 2 this offense would be unstoppable. 

 

Yea and I get it they are hard to find.... but Eagles traded for Brown. Higgins was a 2nd round pick (okay 1st pick of round 2). Pickens was a 2nd round pick too. 

 

In the time he has been here no team in the NFL has spent less day 1 and 2 draft capital on wide receivers than Brandon Beane. You miss every shot you don't take.

[GerstAusGosheim]

22 hours ago, Luka said:

If we win the Super Bowl it will be purely on Josh Allen. This is a 5 win team without him.

 

If that.

[Lost]

22 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea and I get it they are hard to find.... but Eagles traded for Brown. Higgins was a 2nd round pick (okay 1st pick of round 2). Pickens was a 2nd round pick too. 

 

In the time he has been here no team in the NFL has spent less day 1 and 2 draft capital on wide receivers than Brandon Beane. You miss every shot you don't take.

 

And not only could we have had Pickens in the round 2 of 2022, we could have possibly gotten him for a 3rd this year.   The arrogance of Beane/McDermott though prevents us from even looking at guys like him.   It's almost as if their priorities are culture first, run blocking 2nd, pass catching skill 3rd.  And that's on top of WRs in general being at the absolute bottom of positions they covet.  

[Luka]

On 12/2/2025 at 8:38 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

He has had a top defense. That defense hasn't got it done in the post season but the Bills defense 2018 to 2022 was stellar.

 

The biggest issue this team has had and still has is not enough elite talent around Josh Allen. 

 

Coaching has had its moments, most notably the famous one in Kansas City. But players matter more than coaches. Always have, always will. The Bills have needed more better players.

 

His defensive scheme only works in the regular season up by two scores. All the close games with worse teams have been due to not being able to stop the run and get off the field on 3rd down. And then you have all the shoot outs where they can't make a play to change the game.

 

It's a mediocre defense buoyed by the best offensive player of our generation. 

[The Jokeman]

6 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

His defensive scheme only works in the regular season up by two scores. All the close games with worse teams have been due to not being able to stop the run and get off the field on 3rd down. And then you have all the shoot outs where they can't make a play to change the game.

 

It's a mediocre defense buoyed by the best offensive player of our generation. 

Sounds like the 80s when the Browns couldn't get past the Broncos but I bet if you'd ask Browns fans would they rather be in that situation compared to where they at now most would choose the first. 

[Mikie2times]

Nobody hates McD, that’s just a creative path people use to dismiss the opinions of those that think this regime, Beane included, is fairly average if not worse. Surely such opinions have to be personal and irrational. The whole thing is boring. This team looks like a floating turd in a punch bowl with people hanging onto to hopes that somehow we alter what has occurred like clockwork for multiple seasons and actually perform better in the playoffs.
 

Which we can’t. It’s as laughable a notion as saying the Cowboys will just click in the postseason. 

15 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Sounds like the 80s when the Browns couldn't get past the Broncos but I bet if you'd ask Browns fans would they rather be in that situation compared to where they at now most would choose the first. 

Bahaha….man, fear, fear, and more fear. Nobody leave the house. A bad thing could happen. 

[DrDawkinstein]

56 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Sounds like the 80s when the Browns couldn't get past the Broncos but I bet if you'd ask Browns fans would they rather be in that situation compared to where they at now most would choose the first. 

 

We would never be in the Browns situation. We have Josh. They havent had anything close ever.

[billsfan714]

I would assume the ayahuasca trip was over.

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, Luka said:

 

His defensive scheme only works in the regular season up by two scores. All the close games with worse teams have been due to not being able to stop the run and get off the field on 3rd down. And then you have all the shoot outs where they can't make a play to change the game.

 

It's a mediocre defense buoyed by the best offensive player of our generation. 

 

THIS year, the defense isn't good. It wasn't good last year either. But over his reign their have had top regular season defenses. It is simply not true to say he has never had top defenses. 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

THIS year, the defense isn't good. It wasn't good last year either. But over his reign their have had top regular season defenses. It is simply not true to say he has never had top defenses. 

 

The problem is in a big spot (playoffs) they don't play well. Only two times I can remember the defense playing well. The first playoff game after the streak was broken. Lost 10-3 at Jacksonville with Taylor as the QB. The Ravens game from the covid years where they had a 100-yard pick 6 and won 17-3. The other playoff games the defense hasn't played well highlighted by 13 seconds.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

The problem is in a big spot (playoffs) they don't play well. Only two times I can remember the defense playing well. The first playoff game after the streak was broken. Lost 10-3 at Jacksonville with Taylor as the QB. The Ravens game from the covid years where they had a 100-yard pick 6 and won 17-3. The other playoff games the defense hasn't played well highlighted by 13 seconds.

 

I am not sure that is even true though. They played well v Miami despite the O constantly putting them in a hole. They played well v New England. They played fine against the Steelers. Have they been good enough in games we have been eliminated? No. But equally other than the 13 second game I am not sure the O has either. Particularly the last two years.