Game week thread - Bengals at Bills (flexed to 1pm ET)

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

11 hours ago, Since1981 said:

This is deceptively bad when your offense was misfiring. Burrow offense will help these numbers 

Flacco low key went off though sometimes and their defense was still terrible to be fair

 

they scored 30+ a handful of times with flacco to the point where people started to murmur burrow maybe was overrated 😂

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[dorquemada]

17 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Steelers/ravens is always a good game. Both teams are going to be up for that one.

 

I hope lamar kicks hayward right in his big sloppy beergut so we can watch Cam cry again in a press conference

[finn]

55 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Burrow with our offense and coached by McDermott and Brady… how would that go?

There's the rub. Brady did wonders at LSU with Burrow, Chase, and Justin Jefferson, which a dead rabbit could do wonders with. Give him merely an MVP quarterback, a solid set of tight ends, and one of the best lines and running backs in the league, he doesn't do so well. Poor guy! How can anyone expect him to thrive without two All-Pro receivers also? 

[Ray Stonada]

9 minutes ago, finn said:

There's the rub. Brady did wonders at LSU with Burrow, Chase, and Justin Jefferson, which a dead rabbit could do wonders with. Give him merely an MVP quarterback, a solid set of tight ends, and one of the best lines and running backs in the league, he doesn't do so well. Poor guy! How can anyone expect him to thrive without two All-Pro receivers also? 

Also, I think Brady was passing game coordinator at LSU, not OC, and called plays only in certain situations. 

[finn]

5 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Also, I think Brady was passing game coordinator at LSU, not OC, and called plays only in certain situations. 

Yikes. He really has cashed in on that thin resume, hasn't he? I'm beginning to think he may be the only impediment to this team going all the way. If he rises just to the level of "adequate," they could to the Super Bowl. I don't think I'm being unfair. The wide receiver corps is bad, but he's not doing anything  at all with it, and I suspect a better coordinator could do much more. 

[Ray Stonada]

2 minutes ago, finn said:

Yikes. He really has cashed in on that thin resume, hasn't he? I'm beginning to think he may be the only impediment to this team going all the way. If he rises just to the level of "adequate," they could to the Super Bowl. I don't think I'm being unfair. The wide receiver corps is bad, but he's not doing anything  at all with it, and I suspect a better coordinator could do much more. 

I just want him run something else if a team stops his bread and butter. Can he adjust in the moment?

 

Otherwise, let’s try Josh, Chase, Jefferson and a dead rabbit at OC. Lombardi incoming!

[The Frankish Reich]

On 12/1/2025 at 5:31 AM, billsfan_34 said:

Problem is Burrow and company can stay on the field, Pitt could not. Rodgers is absolutely shot. This Cinci game will be a tough one. Glad we are at home.

Rodgers: started reasonably well, is finishing like he's finished. I got to the point where I was hoping Tomlin wouldn't put Rudolph in.

[boyst]

20 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

I'm not saying you are wrong...but I think a large part of this is on Beane and the roster construction. I think if we had a legit #1 outside WR and Kincaid back, while we would still be run heavy, we would likely be throwing more and getting some bigger chunk plays in the air. I almost think, this is who our O HAS to be at this point, good, bad, or otherwise, due to the roster.

our offense is by design because of our limiting tools. kincaid is bust because of availability. if he's not able to play this weekend i will be entirely disappointed.

[DapperCam]

56 minutes ago, finn said:

Yikes. He really has cashed in on that thin resume, hasn't he? I'm beginning to think he may be the only impediment to this team going all the way. If he rises just to the level of "adequate," they could to the Super Bowl. I don't think I'm being unfair. The wide receiver corps is bad, but he's not doing anything  at all with it, and I suspect a better coordinator could do much more. 

Hopefully he’s the head coach of some college team this time next year.

[boyst]

6 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Hopefully he’s the head coach of some college team this time next year.

Brady isn't the problem. He was given little to work with and leaned on the run game because why wouldn't he? Allen is not playing his best ball to low expectation Wr's, a TE who can't play, Knox who is underappreciated because he's not George Kittle or Gronk, and his best and favorite target is a 3rd down running back who plays 20% of the snaps at best. Shakir is not what we thought and was overpaid, too.

 

The problem is the sum of the parts are greater than the total of each individually because our OL is superior, our RB is excelling beyond expectations, and our QB is talented.

 

The reality is that Mahomes did as much and more with a similarly talented offense in KC the last few years to make the excuse that there truly is a problem here.

 

It's hard to say Brady is the problem unless you compare him to someone like McVay or Reid. 

[DapperCam]

Just now, boyst said:

Brady isn't the problem. He was given little to work with and leaned on the run game because why wouldn't he? Allen is not playing his best ball to low expectation Wr's, a TE who can't play, Knox who is underappreciated because he's not George Kittle or Gronk, and his best and favorite target is a 3rd down running back who plays 20% of the snaps at best. Shakir is not what we thought and was overpaid, too.

 

The problem is the sum of the parts are greater than the total of each individually because our OL is superior, our RB is excelling beyond expectations, and our QB is talented.

 

The reality is that Mahomes did as much and more with a similarly talented offense in KC the last few years to make the excuse that there truly is a problem here.

 

It's hard to say Brady is the problem unless you compare him to someone like McVay or Reid. 

I think Brady is the problem, and the offense is operating well under its potential. We can’t even pass the ball with the best QB in the league. There are talent issues at WR, but a good OC can do things to work around that. The Texans game tape was absolutely brutal. Spamming mesh and leaving our tackles on an island while Allen got beat up.

 

To bring this back on topic…the offense should put up 30+ on this Bengals defense.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, finn said:

There's the rub. Brady did wonders at LSU with Burrow, Chase, and Justin Jefferson, which a dead rabbit could do wonders with. Give him merely an MVP quarterback, a solid set of tight ends, and one of the best lines and running backs in the league, he doesn't do so well. Poor guy! How can anyone expect him to thrive without two All-Pro receivers also? 

 

You just described the personnel of a team that could lead the NFL in rushing.   Which they do.  

 

What you failed to note was that it's not about not having two All-Pro WR's.......they literally have the worst WR corps in the NFL and the solid TE's that are available most weeks are primarily just blockers.   The one TE who is a matchup problem for a defense in the passing game is Kincaid and Brady has made great use of him in the rare instances that he is available this year.   

 

The Brady hate is about the receivers sucking.   There is no margin for error.  In the past Allen could heave a prayer downfield or......more often.......buy time and make otherwise ineffective play calls look good.  He did it all the time for Daboll and Dorsey.

 

Now a bad play call is dead in the water for lack of playmakers.   So it seems like there are more of them.   There are probably LESS because they have to lean into what works at the expense of balance.

 

Add into that Allen is having a poor season as a decision maker and in terms of consistency with ball placement/accuracy.   Now some of that can be a factor of the disjointed passing game keeping him out of rhythm but it still comes down to the talent at receiver.

 

I mean if you would have told me in August that they would have to elevate wrong-way Gabe Davis AND have to throw slants to him.......when they were deathly afraid to do so the first time he was here because his hands are so bad.......I could have told you the WR position was in shambles.   Getting rid of the interception-factory that was Gabe in 2022-2023 was a key reason that they were able to reduce turnovers in 2024.  

 

The Bills inconsistency offensively is all about these bummy WR's and the inability of Kincaid to stay on the field.