Congratulations to St Francis

[Nephilim17]

On 11/26/2025 at 5:30 AM, machine gun kelly said:

I’m class if 85, my brother 81, all of my cousins graduated from there, and back then we had a solid football team, but our best sports were wrestling (myself among others better than me),

Can you play WR or LB? If so, I think McD would like to have a look at you. Don't worry about your age, he won't.

[Mr. WEO]

Gaels in a blowout!

[streetkings01]

57 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Gaels in a blowout!

They have a lot of NIL money 👀

[Augie]

27 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

They have a lot of NIL money 👀

 

I was at a friend’s today and he was telling me about a car guy he just met. He went to his showroom and saw Bentley's and Lamborghini’s. The guy told him a lot of his clients were professional athletes (especially MLB) and rappers. He had some college players with NIL money, and he’s just started getting some high school kids who are cashing in. 

 

It’s a brave new world out there. 

[Aesop]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I was at a friend’s today and he was telling me about a car guy he just met. He went to his showroom and saw Bentley's and Lamborghini’s. The guy told him a lot of his clients were professional athletes (especially MLB) and rappers. He had some college players with NIL money, and he’s just started getting some high school kids who are cashing in. 

 

It’s a brave new world out there. 

Ah yes, the high schoolers are being rewarded as well. Part of me hates it, as these opportunities didnt exist when i played high school/college, the other part of me loves it as I know plenty who are being rewarded by their work ethic and dedication. I used to be one of those dudes saying they should just value the FREE EDUCATION they are getting in college. But alot of these kids have bigger dreams. Hats off to them.

[Augie]

56 minutes ago, Aesop said:

Ah yes, the high schoolers are being rewarded as well. Part of me hates it, as these opportunities didnt exist when i played high school/college, the other part of me loves it as I know plenty who are being rewarded by their work ethic and dedication. I used to be one of those dudes saying they should just value the FREE EDUCATION they are getting in college. But alot of these kids have bigger dreams. Hats off to them.

 

It seems you may not understand me. I don’t begrudge anyone the right to be compensated or the right to the same mobility their coaches have. They deserve that. I just don’t enjoy the resulting product nearly as much. That’s fine because we all have plenty of other things to do.

 

I don’t mind it in the macro as much in college sports, but I used to like to know who was on my college basketball team. I used to be proud that we graduated them.  Watch them develop. It’s a new pickup game with the best your money could buy each year, and I don’t know one guy’s name on my team, because I haven’t bothered to watch a game yet. I stopped caring. That can’t be good in the long run. 

 

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Edited yesterday at 12:34 AM by Augie

[HurlyBurly51]

9 hours ago, noacls17 said:

My bad, looked at wrong year. 1 winning season in last 3 years. 🤣

If you're interested in an intellectually honest evaluation and not cherry picking to suit your narrative, expand your search a bit and you'll see a winning football program🤣 

 

"St. Francis High School in Hamburg, NY, has a rich football history, including its current coach Jerry Smith achieving his 200th career win in 2025, making him the winningest coach in the Monsignor Martin Athletic Association. He has guided the team to 23 league championships during his 40+ year career."

[Aesop]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

It seems you may not understand me. I don’t begrudge anyone the right to be compensated or the right to the same mobility their coaches have. They deserve that. I just don’t enjoy the resulting product nearly as much. That’s fine because we all have plenty of other things to do.

 

I don’t mind it in the macro as much in college sports, but I used to like to know who was on my college basketball team. I used to be proud that we graduated them.  Watch them develop. It’s a new pickup game with the best your money could buy each year, and I don’t know one guy’s name on my team, because I haven’t bothered to watch a game yet. I stopped caring. That can’t be good in the long run. 

 

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It also seems you misunderstood me. I was not judging your opinion on the matter, just sharing my own. Also stating that a couple years ago I was against NIL and thought players should be grateful for the education. I have opened my eyes recently to a different opinion. If schools are fine with it and willing to pay. Its really no difference to professional sports now without a salary cap. Schools/teams with the most money, get the best players. Its up to the players to choose the money, national exposure, community, school pride, etc. Which I am totally fine with.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Aesop said:

It also seems you misunderstood me. I was not judging your opinion on the matter, just sharing my own. Also stating that a couple years ago I was against NIL and thought players should be grateful for the education. I have opened my eyes recently to a different opinion. If schools are fine with it and willing to pay. Its really no difference to professional sports now without a salary cap. Schools/teams with the most money, get the best players. Its up to the players to choose the money, national exposure, community, school pride, etc. Which I am totally fine with.

 

Sorry if that came off wrong or unclear, but I’m just disappointed that something I used to enjoy so much has been corrupted (on a micro level) to something I don’t care for very much. 

[Aesop]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Sorry if that came off wrong or unclear, but I’m just disappointed that something I used to enjoy so much has been corrupted (on a micro level) to something I don’t care for very much. 

No need for the apology! I totally get what your saying. I agree with the fact that I also dont enjoy college sports nearly as much as I used to. Go Bills!

[BillsfaninChicago]

I thought the previous Pope was canonized based on that headline.

[streetkings01]

20 hours ago, Augie said:

 

I was at a friend’s today and he was telling me about a car guy he just met. He went to his showroom and saw Bentley's and Lamborghini’s. The guy told him a lot of his clients were professional athletes (especially MLB) and rappers. He had some college players with NIL money, and he’s just started getting some high school kids who are cashing in. 

 

It’s a brave new world out there. 

I’m from Westchester County……my son actually played 7v7 with and against a lot of kids from Iona Prep……they are definitely paying a car payment, rent payment etc over there. 👀

[Mr. WEO]

On 11/29/2025 at 4:50 PM, streetkings01 said:

They have a lot of NIL money 👀

 

4 hours ago, streetkings01 said:

I’m from Westchester County……my son actually played 7v7 with and against a lot of kids from Iona Prep……they are definitely paying a car payment, rent payment etc over there. 👀

 

No different than in Western NY. There's far more competition (teams from the City, Westchester, Northern Jersey) for top local players downstate than upstate.  It's not like Iona or other City Catholic League teams are pulling talent away from Buffalo NY.

 

Having said that, watching the game yesterday, the quality of football at this highest level is pretty mediocre.  

[streetkings01]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

No different than in Western NY. There's far more competition (teams from the City, Westchester, Northern Jersey) for top local players downstate than upstate.  It's not like Iona or other City Catholic League teams are pulling talent away from Buffalo NY.

 

Having said that, watching the game yesterday, the quality of football at this highest level is pretty mediocre.  

You left out Connecticut ….they steal away the top talent up there too.

 

I live in Orange County NY and we lose all our top kids in the area to Don Bosco 

[Tenhigh]

Used to wrestle guys from St. Francis in the late 80s early 90s. Didn't they draw kids from all over the east?

[shrader]

27 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Used to wrestle guys from St. Francis in the late 80s early 90s. Didn't they draw kids from all over the east?

They did have the boarding school during that time. They ended it somewhere around 1990, I forget the exact time. They restated it in recent years, so yeah, they’re pulling in kids from out of town again. 

[Tenhigh]

1 hour ago, streetkings01 said:

You left out Connecticut ….they steal away the top talent up there too.

 

I live in Orange County NY and we lose all our top kids in the area to Don Bosco 

Don't forget St. Joe's and Bergen Catholic! I am in Rockland...

[Buffalo716]

On 11/29/2025 at 3:52 PM, Mr. WEO said:

Gaels in a blowout!

Congratulations you're  AAA School playing AA 

 

The fact any Monsignor Martin team has won in the last 15 years shows your AAA teams are overrated

 

Monsignor Martin teams are doing it with less funding half the amount of students 

8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

No different than in Western NY. There's far more competition (teams from the City, Westchester, Northern Jersey) for top local players downstate than upstate.  It's not like Iona or other City Catholic League teams are pulling talent away from Buffalo NY.

 

Having said that, watching the game yesterday, the quality of football at this highest level is pretty mediocre.  

That's crazy to call it mediocre when there's probably 8 FCS football players 

 

And a few FBS lol

 

Their states that don't have 5 division one football players in the entire state

 

That Iona versus Saint Francis game has like I said probably seven or eight FCS guys and two or three FBS guys

 

And probably two dozen guys that will play division 2 or division 3 football 

 

That's not mediocre bro

Edited 10 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Buffalo716]

On 11/29/2025 at 12:02 AM, HurlyBurly51 said:

Interesting, considering St. Francis beat an Ohio team and 2 Pennsylvania teams this season alone😂

 

On 11/29/2025 at 10:33 AM, BearNorth said:

I think it's a school or section choice, for example CBA-Syracuse plays in the public playoffs [NYSPHSAA] and play Buffalo Bennett today at 6 PM at Cicero North Syracuse [so basically a home game for CBA-Syracuse). I know McQuaid from Rochester has played and won NYSPHSAA titles in the past.  CBA Syracuse is actually ranked higher than St. Francis, but is not participating in the CHSAA playoffs.

 

It's because the Syracuse and Rochester section have given up their public and private sections 

 

They have integrated their Catholic schools with public schools and joined New York State sections.. AKA section 5 and section 4 

 

But that's not fair that Bennett has to go up against Christian Brothers which FYI Bennett has won a AA championship recently 

 

It's really not fair to them.. Catholic schools have a recruiting ability that public schools don't have

 

It's a cop out... Christian Brothers recruits kids from seven different towns

 

But Rochester and Syracuse folded and all their best schools are Catholic schools now basically.. Christian Brothers rules Rochester and Syracuse

 

Bennett lost to a private school in the public playoffs that's a fact

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

You left out Connecticut ….they steal away the top talent up there too.

 

I live in Orange County NY and we lose all our top kids in the area to Don Bosco 

 

True.  My point was that the Catholic league schools downstate have to compete a lot harder for top players because of the number of schools. Iona hardly has a monopoly on them. 

5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Congratulations you're  AAA School playing AA 

 

The fact any Monsignor Martin team has won in the last 15 years shows your AAA teams are overrated

 

Monsignor Martin teams are doing it with less funding half the amount of students 

That's crazy to call it mediocre when there's probably 8 FCS football players 

 

And a few FBS lol

 

Their states that don't have 5 division one football players in the entire state

 

That Iona versus Saint Francis game has like I said probably seven or eight FCS guys and two or three FBS guys

 

And probably two dozen guys that will play division 2 or division 3 football 

 

That's not mediocre bro

 

I watch the games. This game wasn't great HS football.