Generic_Bills_Fan Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Lmao if you had stated specific teams I’d be able get behind it but “anyone”. Really? Buffalo, if they beat Buffalo again in Gillette there is 0 chance that Vegas puts the odds on them to win. Pitt took 5 TO for them squeak a win out… Indy who plays in a dome coming to cold and maybe snowy Gillette? And as people here like to say have beaten no one Denver - who have they beaten? And their O is sporadic at best.. but awesome D. Ravens - possibly but depends how they look too isn’t like they been world beaters this year. And they may miss the playoffs .Chargers - please west coast team coming to east coast have historically done bad esp in the playoffs.. My point is there is no dominant or scary playoff team this year in the AFC.. any team can beat any other team.. IMO the scariest team for my Pats be the Texans because that D could shut down the O completely and Maye be hit like a piñyata. I’m not even sure I’d include Buffalo in teams that realistically would be alive in the second round at this point lol this isn’t a bills fan hating on the pats thing at all I’d be sayin it about absolutely any team in the pats position…I really don’t expect the bills to lose the rematch in Gillette though regardless no disrespect intended. I don’t think the pats are a bad team overall by any means don’t get me wrong but they are significantly less talented than your average 1 seed/home team for the divisional round and I don’t think that’s even debatable. If the pats don’t get the bye and end up the 2 teams will probably cheekily tank some games to get NE instead of Baltimore in the first round if Baltimore ends up the 4 If they get like kc or Baltimore in the divisional they will absolutely be a home dog unless they go like thermonuclear on the ravens in the regular season game.. probably will be a home dog to Buffalo if the bills win it comfortably in Gillette but that’s still a big if obviously. I’d be interested to see the line for the regular season game in a couple weeks I think the pats would be a home dog right now tbh. Denver I think is probably a favorite but if they’re the 2 it won’t be them anyway. Indy definitely depends on how they finish…right now I think they’re a pretty heavy favorite in a hypothetical matchup. denver beat kc who’s schedule was crazy front loaded and the eagles as well…people get way too hung up on teams records at the time they beat them. Kc is gonna finish with 10 or 11 wins even. The pats are in a weird spot because they want the public perception that the bills are cooked/not that good but they also want to argue the bills are a quality win…you can’t really have both of those. That meme the pats beat more above .500 teams than the other afc contenders kinda gave me a chuckle cuz I think Carolina/tampa probably finish under leaving the pats with just Buffalo with a shot at Baltimore we have seen this a fair bit recently tbh idk why pats fans talk like this stuff doesn’t happen. Everyone and their mother knew the Vikings were gonna get smoked last year. that was one of the easiest money sports bets I’ve ever made 😂 Edited 22 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
folz Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago On 11/25/2025 at 11:26 AM, Low Positive said: Years and years of unmet expectations will do that to people. And obviously it is only because our coach and GM suck, right, and nothing else? Over the last 9 years, there has been only one team other than New England and Kansas City to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. Call it what you want, but having been in the same conference with two dynasty teams that the NFL completely fauns all over, does make a difference. I'm just not sure how you guys dismiss that like it's nothing. And for God's sake, the last three times we played KC in the playoffs, we basically lost to them by a combined 6 points (OT, missed FG, 3-point loss with a ton of bad calls by the refs---the NFL definitely has it's favorites, and you can't convince me otherwise at this point). Heck, K.C. probably shouldn't have even been in the position they were (or even in the playoffs) if the refs didn't help them all of last season. How many one-score games did they win where people complained about the officiating/a bad call that gave them the game. Had the refs called a fair game in the AFC Championship last year, we would have been in the Super Bowl last season. How would that affect everyone's opinions this year. You do realize that we should have been in the Super Bowl last year (save for the refs, and the NFL wanting to make sure all of the Swifties were watching the SB). Would we still be wanting to fire everyone if we had made it to the dance last year (win or lose, but not blown out)? Would we still be saying McD and/or Beane can never and will never get to a Super Bowl or win a championship, guaranteed, no questions asked? Year AFC Super Bowl representative 2016 New England 2017 New England 2018 New England 2019 Kansas City 2020 Kansas City 2021 Cincinnati 2022 Kansas City 2023 Kansas City 2024 Kansas City Quote
PatsFanNH Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’m not even sure I’d include Buffalo in teams that realistically would be alive in the second round at this point lol this isn’t a bills fan hating on the pats thing at all I’d be sayin it about absolutely any team in the pats position…I really don’t expect the bills to lose the rematch in Gillette though regardless no disrespect intended. I don’t think the pats are a bad team overall by any means don’t get me wrong but they are significantly less talented than your average 1 seed/home team for the divisional round and I don’t think that’s even debatable. If the pats don’t get the bye and end up the 2 teams will probably cheekily tank some games to get NE instead of Baltimore in the first round if Baltimore ends up the 4 If they get like kc or Baltimore in the divisional they will absolutely be a home dog unless they go like thermonuclear on the ravens in the regular season game.. probably will be a home dog to Buffalo if the bills win it comfortably in Gillette but that’s still a big if obviously. I’d be interested to see the line for the regular season game in a couple weeks I think the pats would be a home dog right now tbh. Denver I think is probably a favorite but if they’re the 2 it won’t be them anyway. Indy definitely depends on how they finish…right now I think they’re a pretty heavy favorite in a hypothetical matchup. denver beat kc who’s schedule was crazy front loaded and the eagles as well…people get way too hung up on teams records at the time they beat them. Kc is gonna finish with 10 or 11 wins even. The pats are in a weird spot because they want the public perception that the bills are cooked/not that good but they also want to argue the bills are a quality win…you can’t really have both of those. That meme the pats beat more above .500 teams than the other afc contenders kinda gave me a chuckle cuz I think Carolina/tampa probably finish under leaving the pats with just Buffalo with a shot at Baltimore we have seen this a fair bit recently tbh idk why pats fans talk like this stuff doesn’t happen. Everyone and their mother knew the Vikings were gonna get smoked last year. that was one of the easiest money sports bets I’ve ever made 😂 First, I don’t expect them be the first seed especially with the entire left side of the O line out injured. Be honest this year if I was to bet who was winning the SB I’d bet the Rams.. the AFC any of like 8 teams could be the rep in the SB. My pats, your. Ills but god anyone but KC again please! 1 hour ago, folz said: And obviously it is only because our coach and GM suck, right, and nothing else? Over the last 9 years, there has been only one team other than New England and Kansas City to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. Call it what you want, but having been in the same conference with two dynasty teams that the NFL completely fauns all over, does make a difference. I'm just not sure how you guys dismiss that like it's nothing. And for God's sake, the last three times we played KC in the playoffs, we basically lost to them by a combined 6 points (OT, missed FG, 3-point loss with a ton of bad calls by the refs---the NFL definitely has it's favorites, and you can't convince me otherwise at this point). Heck, K.C. probably shouldn't have even been in the position they were (or even in the playoffs) if the refs didn't help them all of last season. How many one-score games did they win where people complained about the officiating/a bad call that gave them the game. Had the refs called a fair game in the AFC Championship last year, we would have been in the Super Bowl last season. How would that affect everyone's opinions this year. You do realize that we should have been in the Super Bowl last year (save for the refs, and the NFL wanting to make sure all of the Swifties were watching the SB). Would we still be wanting to fire everyone if we had made it to the dance last year (win or lose, but not blown out)? Would we still be saying McD and/or Beane can never and will never get to a Super Bowl or win a championship, guaranteed, no questions asked? Year AFC Super Bowl representative 2016 New England 2017 New England 2018 New England 2019 Kansas City 2020 Kansas City 2021 Cincinnati 2022 Kansas City 2023 Kansas City 2024 Kansas City The common thread is… the AFC all pees down their leg when they faced NE and now KC in the playoffs.. and that is 1 main thing COACHING! They over think and do dumb things… Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: First, I don’t expect them be the first seed especially with the entire left side of the O line out injured. Be honest this year if I was to bet who was winning the SB I’d bet the Rams.. the AFC any of like 8 teams could be the rep in the SB. My pats, your. Ills but god anyone but KC again please! The common thread is… the AFC all pees down their leg when they faced NE and now KC in the playoffs.. and that is 1 main thing COACHING! They over think and do dumb things… Man I hope you’re right but that’s just not the feeling I’m getting. How the bills fit in I’m not sure yet they could easily bounce back or suck haha but i think we’re gonna get the usual suspects of kc/baltimore winning 1-2+ playoff games unfortunately. I don’t think it’s as wide open as it looks at this point…just early season weirdness is giving the appearance of wide open-ness. Baltimore lost Lamar for some time and the chiefs schedule was pretty heavily front loaded and rice actually looks really good despite not playing in forever. He probably would’ve been good for 1-2 more wins if he was available early I’m getting the sick feeling that this is gonna be the easiest chiefs run to make the superbowl they’ve ever had and they’re gonna get stomped in the superbowl again 😂 it took the chiefs two quarters to figure the colts out but that second half was a joke. It’s really gonna take NE beating Baltimore and/or Denver beating kc again to kinda shake that feeling for me and I don’t think I’d bet on either thing not even trying to hate on NE or any of these other teams…I think I’d be pretty jealous but also happy if one of them beats kc in the playoffs but I’d probably be thrilled if they beat Baltimore haha I just don’t think it’ll happen. I also don’t think Baltimore will ever beat kc outside some super dumb luck late fumble so i am frustratingly preparing myself for kc going to the superbowl again which im sure nobody wants to hear. I don’t think they’ve really got a shot at winning it though Edited 17 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
leonbus23 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) On 11/25/2025 at 9:48 AM, BuffaloBillyG said: I don't see it as over entitled. I see it as legitimate frustration. Of all years for the Bills to have a step back in talent...it happens in a year where the Chiefs struggle, the Ravens had issues and the Patriots surge. There would be a legitimate chance Buffalo would have the #1 seed locked down in a few weeks in a typical Bills season I think the frustration is stemmed in the fact that some of the issues that have plagued the Bills this year should have been easy for a GM to see to see coming. The lack of talent at WR. The lack of depth at key positions. These were all addressed right here by many and shrugged off. The injuries that have been mounting since day 1 of TC. And while you can't predict injuries, it does take a toll on the team and the mentality of the fan base. The regression to the means of several things. Sacks up, takeaways down, giveaways up. All things that were amazing last year yet many know are unsustainable. All things that I believe Beane just expected to continue. Finally, it's the lack of improvement over the course of the season in key things. Run defense. Play calling. Presnap penalties. Lack of consistency week to week. It's just been an all around frustrating year watching this team. All true and well stated. It's just easier for some to blame the entire culture in America. And we're the hyperbolic ones. Edited 17 hours ago by leonbus23 1 Quote
Success Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Man I hope you’re right but that’s just not the feeling I’m getting. How the bills fit in I’m not sure yet they could easily bounce back or suck haha but i think we’re gonna get the usual suspects of kc/baltimore winning 1-2+ playoff games unfortunately. I don’t think it’s as wide open as it looks at this point…just early season weirdness is giving the appearance of wide open-ness. Baltimore lost Lamar for some time and the chiefs schedule was pretty heavily front loaded and rice actually looks really good despite not playing in forever. He probably would’ve been good for 1-2 more wins if he was available early I’m getting the sick feeling that this is gonna be the easiest chiefs run to make the superbowl they’ve ever had and they’re gonna get stomped in the superbowl again 😂 it took the chiefs two quarters to figure the colts out but that second half was a joke. It’s really gonna take NE beating Baltimore and/or Denver beating kc again to kinda shake that feeling for me and I don’t think I’d bet on either thing not even trying to hate on NE or any of these other teams…I think I’d be pretty jealous but also happy if one of them beats kc in the playoffs but I’d probably be thrilled if they beat Baltimore haha I just don’t think it’ll happen. I also don’t think Baltimore will ever beat kc outside some super dumb luck late fumble so i am frustratingly preparing myself for kc going to the superbowl again which im sure nobody wants to hear. I don’t think they’ve really got a shot at winning it though Personally, I'd be shocked if it was the Chiefs again. What we're seeing is not an illusion - it's a weak & flawed Chiefs team this year. They're just not at that level anymore. Neither are we - which is frustrating given that they've been our biggest nemesis, and this is the year I think we would normally be able to finally get past them in the playoffs. But it might not even come to that. It might be Pats/Colts in the AFCCG, which would really give me such a feeling of deja vu, and of futility. Like, okay universe - you win. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Success said: Personally, I'd be shocked if it was the Chiefs again. What we're seeing is not an illusion - it's a weak & flawed Chiefs team this year. They're just not at that level anymore. Neither are we - which is frustrating given that they've been our biggest nemesis, and this is the year I think we would normally be able to finally get past them in the playoffs. But it might not even come to that. It might be Pats/Colts in the AFCCG, which would really give me such a feeling of deja vu, and of futility. Like, okay universe - you win. I think people are getting caught up in what I’m gonna call the ‘Vikings paradox’ cuz this happened to them twice fairly recently 😂. Like colts/pats may end up with an overall record of a team that typically makes it to the afc championship game but put yourself in the hypothetical scenario that you’re sitting down to watch a division round game and it’s the 1 seed pats/colts vs a 6 or 7 seed 10 win chiefs team. What do you deep down in your heart of hearts really think the outcome of that game would be? Chiefs/ravens schedule really lightens up so the whole overall record ‘chiefs/ravens aren’t that good’ feeling is probably gonna fade in the next month or so the chiefs are extremely flawed compared to peak chiefs teams of years past of course but peak chiefs teams of years past aren’t really relevant here at all.. it would just be how do the current chiefs match up with pats/colts etc and it’s really hard to see either of those teams as a better team than the chiefs overall flaws and all or the ravens. The colts have probably the biggest flaw heading to the playoffs and the pats have a bills thing going on where they’ve got a good qb but everyone else is just pretty solid which is gonna be tough sledding against a lot of these tough defenses on the afc side. Maybe they get a better playoff diggs than we ever got but even he in his prime was getting locked up pretty good by kc in the playoffs really should be the ravens year the way I see it but if the chiefs are hanging around the ravens definitely won’t beat them 😂 Don’t get me wrong I don’t think the chiefs are some excellent team I just think the afc field is so weak this year that they could do enough to earn the right to get throttled in the Super Bowl. I would love to be wrong and see kc go out and lose to Dallas tomorrow though for sure haha but then it’s back to the ravens being the problem Edited 15 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
Mikie2times Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I think people are getting caught up in what I’m gonna call the ‘Vikings paradox’ cuz this happened to them twice fairly recently 😂. Like colts/pats may end up with an overall record of a team that typically makes it to the afc championship game but put yourself in the hypothetical scenario that you’re sitting down to watch a division round game and it’s the 1 seed pats/colts vs a 6 or 7 seed 10 win chiefs team. What do you deep down in your heart of hearts really think the outcome of that game would be? Chiefs/ravens schedule really lightens up so the whole overall record ‘chiefs/ravens aren’t that good’ feeling is probably gonna fade in the next month or so the chiefs are extremely flawed compared to peak chiefs teams of years past of course but peak chiefs teams of years past aren’t really relevant here at all.. it would just be how do the current chiefs match up with pats/colts etc and it’s really hard to see either of those teams as a better team than the chiefs overall flaws and all or the ravens. The colts have probably the biggest flaw heading to the playoffs and the pats have a bills thing going on where they’ve got a good qb but everyone else is just pretty solid which is gonna be tough sledding against a lot of these tough defenses on the afc side. Maybe they get a better playoff diggs than we ever got but even he in his prime was getting locked up pretty good by kc in the playoffs really should be the ravens year the way I see it but if the chiefs are hanging around the ravens definitely won’t beat them 😂 Don’t get me wrong I don’t think the chiefs are some excellent team I just think the afc field is so weak this year that they could do enough to earn the right to get throttled in the Super Bowl. I would love to be wrong and see kc go out and lose to Dallas tomorrow though for sure haha but then it’s back to the ravens being the problem I think you’re largely right. My view is pretty simple, who would I in the playoffs? The underperforming Bills, Chiefs, or Ravens or the over performing Broncos, Colts, Jaguars, or Patriots? It’s really not close from my view. The historical cream of the crop is still the cream of the crop in a single game elimination. Edited 12 hours ago by Mikie2times 1 Quote
Jrb1979 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, Mikie2times said: I think you’re largely right. My view is pretty simple, who would I in the playoffs? The underperforming Bills, Chiefs, or Ravens or the over performing Broncos, Colts, Jaguars, or Patriots? It’s really not close from my view. The historical cream of the crop is still the cream of the crop in a single game elimination. I disagree. IMO KC and the Bills aren't underperforming this season. This is what they are. KC won a lot of 1 score games that helped them overachieve last season. The Bills relied on a high turnover differential to win a lot of games. Both teams have regressed to the average. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 19 hours ago, folz said: And obviously it is only because our coach and GM suck, right, and nothing else? Over the last 9 years, there has been only one team other than New England and Kansas City to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. Call it what you want, but having been in the same conference with two dynasty teams that the NFL completely fauns all over, does make a difference. I'm just not sure how you guys dismiss that like it's nothing. And for God's sake, the last three times we played KC in the playoffs, we basically lost to them by a combined 6 points (OT, missed FG, 3-point loss with a ton of bad calls by the refs---the NFL definitely has it's favorites, and you can't convince me otherwise at this point). Heck, K.C. probably shouldn't have even been in the position they were (or even in the playoffs) if the refs didn't help them all of last season. How many one-score games did they win where people complained about the officiating/a bad call that gave them the game. Had the refs called a fair game in the AFC Championship last year, we would have been in the Super Bowl last season. How would that affect everyone's opinions this year. You do realize that we should have been in the Super Bowl last year (save for the refs, and the NFL wanting to make sure all of the Swifties were watching the SB). Would we still be wanting to fire everyone if we had made it to the dance last year (win or lose, but not blown out)? Would we still be saying McD and/or Beane can never and will never get to a Super Bowl or win a championship, guaranteed, no questions asked? Year AFC Super Bowl representative 2016 New England 2017 New England 2018 New England 2019 Kansas City 2020 Kansas City 2021 Cincinnati 2022 Kansas City 2023 Kansas City 2024 Kansas City You know we are down bad when we are bringing up Pats teams with a different coach and QB from a decade ago before McD or Allen were even here. Beane and McD created the Chiefs dynasty, probably more than any team has ever created any other dynasty in NFL history. Josh is probably in the most commercials in the NFL this year and was the MVP last year, but the reason we can’t get over the hump is because the league is “playing favorites” lol. Edited 1 hour ago by FireChans Quote
26TrapDraw Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago On 11/26/2025 at 3:51 AM, Sojourner said: Pretty simple 26… 6th in total offense: 11th in passing 1st in rushing 8th in total first downs 4th in TDs 6th in total points scored (only the Lions and Bills do not have a defensive TD(s) in those 6) 4th in 3rd down conversion % @ 43.3% Not a fan of the play calling but if he actually gets his act together and gets back to what was successful the years prior or at least an attempts, I’m sure Brady will change the tune on many of us calling for a replacement or him to lose his job immediately. Certainly they haven’t been passing the eye test for games as of late but there’s been production. Defense: 15th in points allowed 12th in total yards allowed 1st against the pass (obviously lol) 30th against the run (🤢) 16th in 3rd downs converted (37.9%) 15th in Red Zone conversion (56.3%) 18th in average drive starting field position (31.8) 7th in pressure % / tied 7th in hurry rate 15th in sacks 25th in blitz % (20.0%) Tied 12th in turnovers (7 teams with 13) Fixing the run defense, as hard as it will be, would help this team tremendously. Also reverting back to a fundamentally sound team that takes care of the ball on offense would be a bonus. Something if you refer to @Kelly to Allen’s thread about Josh’s turnovers is nothing to worry about as he doesn’t do it in the playoffs; 0.9% Getting hot is very possible. Ok solid points but I need to know how this defense gets fixed by playoff time. If the Offense gets hot and it certainly can I don’t worry so much. My issue is stopping anyone from doing whatever they want whenever they want. That’s what has and will still keep this team from doing anything yet another season. Quote
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