Oliver Still Leads Bills in TFL, 2nd in Sacks

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, Dan said:

So posters can’t reference a season from 4 years ago to make a point, but you can reference a QB that played nearly 40years ago to make yours?  

 

I guess all that matters is the bills suck, and you’re here to tell us you’re right?

Couldn't be more wrong, but hey you do you, fella! Have a great Thanksgiving.

[leonbus23]

10 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

As of this morning, the Bills are in the 7 seed. Houston, who owns the head to head tie breaker is right behind us. The Chiefs are right behind them. 

 

I don't know what all goes into that 84%, but I can see our chances being significantly lower with the teams we face from here on out. 

 

I ran the Playoff Prediction tool a few times and the Bills made the playoffs roughly 6 out of the 10 tries. The possibility of missing the playoffs has never been more realistic. 

 

And even if they get in, do you see any world where this team shows up for 3 straight playoff games, on the road AND has a solid plan on both offense and defense? Then, avoids any in game injuries that would alter said amazing plans? I just don't this year. 

I put in some scenarios today. Six games left.

 

If the Bills beat Jets and Browns.

 

Lose to Pats and Eagles.

 

They would have to beat either the Steelers or the Bengals to get in. 

 

So, three wins gets the Bills in and considering they play the Jets and Browns, there's a good chance.

 

But you're right. Doesn't seem like they'll do much in the playoffs anyway. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, leonbus23 said:

I put in some scenarios today. Six games left.

 

If the Bills beat Jets and Browns.

 

Lose to Pats and Eagles.

 

They would have to beat either the Steelers or the Bengals to get in. 

 

So, three wins gets the Bills in and considering they play the Jets and Browns, there's a good chance.

 

But you're right. Doesn't seem like they'll do much in the playoffs anyway. 

 Browns game gives me pause. They have a good pass rush and their DBS are better than our WRs. 

 

Judkins is a star at RB. He's what the Raiders thought Jeanty would be. Kid could easily pop off for 200 against us. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

23 hours ago, Playoffs? said:

I would not bet on the Bills making the playoffs right now. They seem to be downward spiraling, and the injury bug has hit in a really bad way. There is no game for the rest of the season that I truly expect to win. 

Come on, Bro. They literally just beat the Chiefs and Bucs (a legit NFC contender) 

stopped a rising Bryce Young and top 5 RB Rico Dowdle 5-4 Panthers. And a healthy week 1 Ravens.

 

Lost to the Texans & Pats by 4 & 3 points. Yall are tripping. 
 

If the Bills miss the playoffs then i will delete my account here and never return again. You can quote me on this. 

[thenorthremembers]

13 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

 Browns game gives me pause. They have a good pass rush and their DBS are better than our WRs. 

 

Judkins is a star at RB. He's what the Raiders thought Jeanty would be. Kid could easily pop off for 200 against us. 

If the Raiders put together a competent oline and coupled it with a good OC Jeanty would be a star.  

[BuffaloRebound]

We simply don’t develop enough good young players on either side of the ball but especially on defense.  Then we are stuck having to give significant contracts to above average players because it would take so long to replace them.  And supplement that with guys well past their prime like Poyer, Tre White, aj klein, jordan phillips, shaq lawson, gabe davis, etc.  

We are about 3 years into the McBeane ‘Holding on to something they never had’ tour.  The only thing preventing the wheels from falling off is a superstar QB.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

If the Raiders put together a competent oline and coupled it with a good OC Jeanty would be a star.  

You could be right. We may never know. I don't have faith  the Raiders will put enough around him to reach his potential. Jeanty was a horrible pick for a team that needed much more than a RB. 

[uticaclub]

20 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Come on, Bro. They literally just beat the Chiefs and Bucs (a legit NFC contender) 

stopped a rising Bryce Young and top 5 RB Rico Dowdle 5-4 Panthers. And a healthy week 1 Ravens.

 

Lost to the Texans & Pats by 4 & 3 points. Yall are tripping. 
 

If the Bills miss the playoffs then i will delete my account here and never return again. You can quote me on this. 

Bryce Young didn't play and the Bucs are fading fast. Rico Dowdle is no where near a top 5 RB in the league, maybe his own conference

Edited 1 hour ago by uticaclub

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

You could be right. We may never know. I don't have faith  the Raiders will put enough around him to reach his potential. Jeanty was a horrible pick for a team that needed much more than a RB. 

 

This is what the Raiders do.  Same type of mismanagement the Bills had in the past.   My Father, until he passed,  was a Raiders fan.   My brother in law is a huge Raiders fan as well.   Feel bad for him.   

[BuffaloRebound]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

You could be right. We may never know. I don't have faith  the Raiders will put enough around him to reach his potential. Jeanty was a horrible pick for a team that needed much more than a RB. 

Raiders feel a lot like the drought-era Bills.  Some good individual players but an organization lacking any direction. That’s the type of team you poach players from like Marshawn, Peters, and Gilmore were freed from the Bills and became Hall of Fame players. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

23 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'm going to be honest. I don't give a crap what happened in 2021. That team isn't this team. A lot of people keep dipping into the 2021 bag. Yes, it's a sign anything can happen. But unless this team can miraculously figure out how to:

 

- Get receivers open consistently 

- Stop a running attack

- Rush the passer

- Have good solid coaching on both sides of the ball

- Play 4 complete quarters

- Avoid any further injuries 

 

Then this team is sunk. I know the popular rallying cry is supposed to be "As long as we have Josh Allen anything can happen". But that showed several times this year to be false. No more apparent then against the Texans. He can't throw passes to himself. He can't stop the run. And he's making more mental errors this year than he has in a long time. Takes more than an amazing QB to win in the NFL....ask Dan Marino. 

 

Absolutely the truth! 

[Billz4ever]

38 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Come on, Bro. They literally just beat the Chiefs and Bucs (a legit NFC contender) 

stopped a rising Bryce Young and top 5 RB Rico Dowdle 5-4 Panthers. And a healthy week 1 Ravens.

 

Lost to the Texans & Pats by 4 & 3 points. Yall are tripping. 
 

If the Bills miss the playoffs then i will delete my account here and never return again. You can quote me on this. 

 

We didn't play Carolina with Bryce Young. We played Andy Dalton.   We also lost to the both 4-7 Falcons and Dolphins and got thoroughly outplayed and out-coached in both losses.  This team doesn't beat the teams they should beat.

 

The Chiefs came close to being 5-6 this past week, so they're not the juggernaut they have been in the past and we've had no problem beating them in the regular season anyway.  We allowed 32 points to a beat up Bucs team and the Week 1 win against the Ravens might as well be ancient history at this point given all the injuries.

 

And even if they do limp into the playoffs, who cares?  Do we really think this team is making a deep playoff run all on the road?

Edited 1 hour ago by Billz4ever

[Playoffs?]

32 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Come on, Bro. They literally just beat the Chiefs and Bucs (a legit NFC contender) 

stopped a rising Bryce Young and top 5 RB Rico Dowdle 5-4 Panthers. And a healthy week 1 Ravens.

 

Lost to the Texans & Pats by 4 & 3 points. Yall are tripping. 
 

If the Bills miss the playoffs then i will delete my account here and never return again. You can quote me on this. 

I hear ya, my man. I wasn’t saying they won’t make the playoffs. I’m just saying I wouldn’t bet on it, because I don’t know who this team is anymore.  
 

Yes, we beat the Chiefs… only to then get smoked by the crap Dolphins. We beat the Bucs, to then get beat by the Stroud-less Texans.  
 

The Steelers can play tough.  The Bengals with Burrow is not good for us. The Pats keep winning. Myles Garrett is going to have a field day for the Browns. The Eagles are the Eagles. I cannot tell you honestly that I expect to win those games. I have no idea what will happen, which Buffalo Bills team shows up, and no clue what to expect anymore. 
 

Really weird season. 

[BillMafia716ix]

Sucks. Oliver is a damn good player but he can never stay healthy. We invest all this money into the defensive line and the injury bug kills us every time. (Miller, Oliver, Hoechet, DeWayne Carter, Bosa, Landon Jackson.) and it doesn’t help that guys like Groot has never developed into that dominant edge rusher we needed him to be. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

13 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Raiders feel a lot like the drought-era Bills.  Some good individual players but an organization lacking any direction. That’s the type of team you poach players from like Marshawn, Peters, and Gilmore were freed from the Bills and became Hall of Fame players. 

Honestly, they may be worse 

 

At least the Bills managed to get a 1st round pick for Peters. The Raiders for years have had the opportunity to get a kinda ransom for Maxx Crosby and absolutely refuse to trade him. He reportedly wants to stay there...but business is business. After seeing what the Cowboys got for Parsons and even the Jets got for Q Williams, it's ridiculous that they keep him there.

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Sucks. Oliver is a damn good player but he can never stay healthy. We invest all this money into the defensive line and the injury bug kills us every time. (Miller, Oliver, Hoechet, DeWayne Carter, Bosa, Landon Jackson.) and it doesn’t help that guys like Groot has never developed into that dominant edge rusher we needed him to be. 

 

I don’t think Groot was ever expected to be a dominant edge rusher coming from LDE. That would be great, but that was never the expectation. He’s not a Dwight Freeney or Von Miller kind of player, he has a different skill set. 

[BillMafia716ix]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I don’t think Groot was ever expected to be a dominant edge rusher coming from LDE. That would be great, but that was never the expectation. He’s not a Dwight Freeney or Von Miller kind of player, he has a different skill set. 

He’s a good edge setter but eventually you want them to grow into guys who can get to the QB. 

[Augie]

9 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

He’s a good edge setter but eventually you want them to grow into guys who can get to the QB. 

 

He had 8 sacks last year, and 8 sacks in 2022. That’s not nothing for an “edge setter”.  I never expect him to be a 13 sack/year guy. Maybe some frustration around here comes from unrealistic expectations? I know, you want more with the big contract, but he didn’t get paid like Myles Garrett, so don’t expect that level of play.