hondo in seattle Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The WR room was rudderless because there was no alpha in place. No stud to set the tone. Sorta like former All Pro and alpha-persona Jordan Poyer is now being credited with as Cole Bishop is emerging. I mean.......every WR room has 4 or 5 other guys in it. A hyped rookie who is the #2 focus of marketing by the team behind the QB being told he is going to become WR1 probably isn't going to be taking his lead from Shoeless Mack Hollins and short-arms-slot-only Shakir. There wasn't even a captain in the room anymore with wrong-way Gabe gone. The lack of leadership was acknowledged as a concern of the Bills....I mean, where did you think that applied? And Allen isn't the Aaron Rodgers type either. Not a guy who is going to ride a teammate to make him better like Rodgers did with the enigmatic young version of Davante Adams. The tactical error was basically handing a player you were highly critical of after the season the WR1 job in 2025 and then playing him the most snaps all season as he continues to struggle and only then benching him outright for being late for at least his 3rd practice with the team. That's the definition of a day late and dollar short and the timing of it gives the perception to the public that he's the reason for the teams wildly inconsistent passing game(even if that weren't the case). I appreciate the response and compliment your talent for making things sound dumber than maybe they really are. For example, you mention the tactical error of "playing him [Keon] the most snaps all season as he continues to struggle..." I don't assume that Keon got the most snaps because the coaching staff considered him the best WR nor were they rewarding him for his effort. I think it was just a matter of how Brady packages his receivers. And, statistically speaking, you could say all our wideouts were struggling, so Keon's production struggles don't stand out. The big mistake was drafting Keon where we did. You could also argue that Beane hasn't managed the cap well which meant we didn't have the space to sign an expensive FA. But, from what I see and know, I don't think the coaching staff made any grave mistakes in how they've handled Keon. The kid does have some talent. They tried to nurse it along. But Keon screwed up enough times that they finally lost their patience. And I'm glad they did. I think it would be super interesting to be a fly on the wall of One Bills Drive and see/hear how these situations truly evolve because we fans don't get the whole story. Quote
dpberr Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I voted no. He can grow up. Bills need to accept he's not a WR1. He's a slot receiver, with *some* plays lined up wide. Bills will need to get creative to have both he and Shakir on the field at the same time. Bills, like most teams, can make mistakes is not playing rookies to their strengths as they develop. Elam was never going to be a zone corner. Coleman isn't a WR1. 1 Quote
Luka Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I voted no because no way in hell is another team trading anything for him. If the disciplinary problems persist I'd imagine he'd be cut. Quote
FireChans Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Parker was actually a 4.45 guy. Where the comparison comes in is that there are multiple examples of these bigger bodied guys taking longer to develop because they lack the speed and or quickness to dominate initially. When Parker broke out he was probably trending toward stringing a few 1000 yard seasons in a row up.....which would be an excellent result from an early second round pick like Coleman. But injuries got Parker and derailed his career after that 1200 yard 9 TD season. Davante Adams and Nico Collins didn't break out until age 24.........that would be year 4 for Coleman. Which illustrates my point about the Bills putting way too much on his plate this year. Parker was a 4.45 guy but he was also a negative separation guy. He was very famously like bottom 2 in the NFL for a few years 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago On 11/16/2025 at 2:03 PM, PetermansRedemption said: Yes, try to get a 5th, take a 7th. If not, cut. We’d be lucky to get a 5th rd pick. If we even got a 6th, I’d be happy so we game it and wait til it’s say the Jet’s and up by 3 TDs, and then feed the heck out of him to feed the trade bait. We’ll never get more than. 6th. Quote
Billsfanatixs Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago Just watch the podcast with ochocinco and he says he's going to be giving keon a call and he said he's going to get him right 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: I appreciate the response and compliment your talent for making things sound dumber than maybe they really are. For example, you mention the tactical error of "playing him [Keon] the most snaps all season as he continues to struggle..." I don't assume that Keon got the most snaps because the coaching staff considered him the best WR nor were they rewarding him for his effort. I think it was just a matter of how Brady packages his receivers. And, statistically speaking, you could say all our wideouts were struggling, so Keon's production struggles don't stand out. The big mistake was drafting Keon where we did. You could also argue that Beane hasn't managed the cap well which meant we didn't have the space to sign an expensive FA. But, from what I see and know, I don't think the coaching staff made any grave mistakes in how they've handled Keon. The kid does have some talent. They tried to nurse it along. But Keon screwed up enough times that they finally lost their patience. And I'm glad they did. I think it would be super interesting to be a fly on the wall of One Bills Drive and see/hear how these situations truly evolve because we fans don't get the whole story. I agree with a lot of that but I just can't get with the idea that they "nursed" Coleman along. That's the opposite of what happened, IMO. He was the 8th WR off the board and their attitude was "OK, we gave you that first year to learn.......now go out and beat the early first round Christian Gonzalez and Sauce type CB1's in our division". Somehow that made sense to some Bills fans who have been in denial about how serious the Bills WR problem was. 1 Quote
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