Jags listening to trade calls for Brian Thomas

[Breakout Squad]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

 

So you're literally going to dismiss Michael Clayton who was a higher draft pick who had a higher pedigree coming out of college and basically put up 1200 yards and seven touchdowns as a rookie and then never did anything else 

 

Brian Thomas Jr had 90 more yards lol

 

You can absolutely go the same way as Michael Clayton.. he could also turn it around but to say he's going to be a perennial pro bowler is not correct 

 

People anointed Odell Beckham as the next greatest thing ever and he's not a Hall of famer

You made a good point IMO

[Patrick Duffy]

5 hours ago, HOUSE said:

To young and healthy for Brandon Beane 

Lol, this is perfect

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

So you're literally going to dismiss Michael Clayton who was a higher draft pick who had a higher pedigree coming out of college and basically put up 1200 yards and seven touchdowns as a rookie and then never did anything else 

 

Brian Thomas Jr had 90 more yards lol

 

You can absolutely go the same way as Michael Clayton.. he could also turn it around but to say he's going to be a perennial pro bowler is not correct 

 

People anointed Odell Beckham as the next greatest thing ever and he's not a Hall of famer I said the same thing after his hot start that it's not going to last 

 

You think Brian Thomas Jr is a 14,000 yard receiver in 10 years?

w Allen easily 

[NeverOutNick]

6 hours ago, DJB said:

 

I don’t care that this dude is having a down year. He would easily be our best WR and stretches the field and is on a cheap rookie contract. Get er done

[Nihilarian]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

I guarantee they would have said the same thing if they went up and got BTJ

 

you don't trade back twice for a guy everybody loves lol. This was very obvious PR 

You guarantee? Who are they?  I'll refrain from disparaging a fellow Bills fan here.

 

Did you miss the quote where it stated that Josh Allen himself stated he texted Coleman BEFORE the draft? You're the guy I want. 

 

That Buffalo Bills GM stated that Allen was involved in the draft process, and most likely why he traded back twice to draft the player his QB wanted on the team. 

 

Did you even click the link and read the article?

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

w Allen easily 

Not if he keeps alligator arming footballs which he needs to correct or he's not even going to have a 10-year career

 

Terrific talent he now has mental hurdles he has to overcome which is easier said than done

Edited 10 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Allen2Moulds]

Everything involves risk, nothing is guaranteed.  That being said, he's more than worth the risk, given his upside.  The biggest risk with draft picks, is even knowing whether or not they can compete or excell at the pro level.   He's already shown that.

Additionally, his skill set is not only the exact thing we miss on offense, but also the perfect compliment to Josh's arm.  

He doesn't need to be the guy, be a 1400-1500 yd guy to make this a successful trade.  Its his impact, on how teams will need to defend us.

 

[gobills404]

Maybe he just needs a change of scenery

 

[GoBills808]

Just now, Nihilarian said:

You guarantee? Who are they?  I'll refrain from disparaging a fellow Bills fan here.

 

Did you miss the quote where it stated that Josh Allen himself stated he texted Coleman BEFORE the draft? You're the guy I want. 

 

That Buffalo Bills GM stated that Allen was involved in the draft process, and most likely why he traded back twice to draft the player his QB wanted on the team. 

 

Did you even click the link and read the article?

'Team says guy they drafted is the one they wanted all along despite trading back twice'🤦

[thewookie1]

I’d trade a 2nd for him but I fear he’s bad due to being a headcase versus something fixable.

[aristocrat]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

You act like there's never been a flash in the pan

 

Michael Clayton had 1200 yards and seven touchdown as a rookie .. he was a 6'3 205 lb beast and was a higher first round pick than btj

 

Never did anything again

What a reference. LSU kid as well

[GoBills808]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

Not if he keeps alligator arming footballs which he needs to correct or he's not even going to have a 10-year career

 

Terrific talent he now has mental hurdles he has to overcome which is easier said than done

Ok lol 

 

We're so good at wideout we can turn our nose up at WR3 last yr on a rookie deal😂😂

[hondo in seattle]

His performance this year is a huge red flag.

 

Then again, we're a bit desperate this year and when you're desperate you accept longer odds.  

 

Thomas runs a 4.33, gets separation, and was dynamic last year.  He's just a young kid; the potential to return to that level of performance is still there you'd think.  

 

And he's on a rookie contract.  

 

I'd take a chance on a trade if the price was right.

[The Jokeman]

 

 

 

[Buffalo716]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

Ok lol 

 

We're so good at wideout we can turn our nose up at WR3 last yr on a rookie deal😂😂

I'm not saying he's not better than what we might have 

 

I'm saying in the NFL with a salary cap and x amount of pics just giving away a first round pick for a guy who is going through problems is not the smartest thing 

 

X Plus y does not always equal z in the NFL.. I can think he has talent but he also is overcoming mental hurdles right now which I'm not throwing a first round pick at 

 

Now if you're saying him or olave for a second round pick I would be willing to take a gamble on him because his size

[GoBills808]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

I'm not saying he's not better than what we might have 

 

I'm saying in the NFL with a salary cap and x amount of pics just giving away a first round pick for a guy who is going through problems is not the smartest thing 

 

X Plus y does not always equal z in the NFL.. I can think he has talent but he also is overcoming mental hurdles right now which I'm not throwing a first round pick at 

 

Now if you're saying him or olave for a second round pick I would be willing to take a gamble on him because his size

Million thumbs down

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Million thumbs down

Let's come back to this in 5 years and see how your boys career is doing 

 

If he's got 7,000 yards you're absolutely correct 

 

If he never went for 1200 yards again well...

 

You're acting like he's Jerry Rice

Edited 10 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Allen2Moulds]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

So you're literally going to dismiss Michael Clayton who was a higher draft pick who had a higher pedigree coming out of college and basically put up 1200 yards and seven touchdowns as a rookie and then never did anything else 

 

Brian Thomas Jr had 90 more yards lol

 

You can absolutely go the same way as Michael Clayton.. he could also turn it around but to say he's going to be a perennial pro bowler is not correct 

 

People anointed Odell Beckham as the next greatest thing ever and he's not a Hall of famer I said the same thing after his hot start that it's not going to last 

 

You think Brian Thomas Jr is a 14,000 yard receiver in 10 years?

What is the bar here, for this to be a successful trade?

 

You are right about Clayton, but wouldn't you say that he's the anomaly?  

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

What is the bar here, for this to be a successful trade?

 

You are right about Clayton, but wouldn't you say that he's the anomaly?  

The NFL where 35% of the players are undrafted free agents? 

 

No I have always been trained to believe that draft status means nothing once you enter the league and the talent margin is so slim between a 7th round pick and a first round pick... The Gap is way smaller compared to a CFL player to an NFL player 

 

Work ethic means way more at the highest level 

 

I'll take a first round talent with an undrafted rookies work ethic but you don't get that often.. players like Tom Brady in the sixth round have the best work ethic but they weren't considered crazy talented 

 

It's hard to find crazy talent with great work ethic.. which we got in Josh Allen which is why he was always talked about as the number one pick

 

 guys who go in the top 10 usually have the best combination of work ethic and skill and even then a lot of times they're relying on pure god-given talent

Edited 10 hours ago by Buffalo716

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Let's come back to this in 5 years and see how your boys career is doing 

 

If he's got 7,000 yards you're absolutely correct 

 

If he never went for 1200 yards again well...

 

You're acting like he's Jerry Rice

No I'm acting like he's worth a first lol 

 

You're acting like he's not