Josh Allen Played Most Undisciplined Game in Three years Against Falcons-- Jim Kubiak BN

[Coach Tuesday]

I am the biggest Josh Allen homer in the world.  He is my favorite athlete to root for, ever.  I am considering getting a 17 tattoo.

 

That said - the past few games (New Orleans included), it has been hard not to notice the dissonance between all of the commercials and media attention he is featured in, and his inability to execute basic handoffs and diagnose blitzes properly.  His mechanics and throws have been mostly fine, he’s still elite, but yet - the details have been off, and one inevitably starts to wonder about his focus.  But you could also say the same thing about the o line and offense as a whole - they just seem distracted and complacent, which they can’t afford to be given their lack of talent at WR and lack of a true innovator at OC.  They have some big games coming up and it’ll be interesting to see whether they start to get it together and clean up the pre-snap nonsense.  Because that to me tells me where their level of focus is.

Edited Saturday at 10:01 PM by Coach Tuesday

[GoBills808]

21 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am the biggest Josh Allen homer in the world.  He is my favorite athlete to root for, ever.  I am considering getting a 17 tattoo.

 

That said - the past few games (New Orleans included), it has been hard not to notice the dissonance between all of the commercials and media attention he is featured in, and his inability to execute basic handoffs and diagnose blitzes properly.  His mechanics and throws have been mostly fine, he’s still elite, but yet - the details have been off, and one inevitably starts to wonder about his focus.  But you could also say the same thing about the o line and offense as a whole - they just seem distracted and complacent, which they can’t afford to be given their lack of talent at WR and lack of a true innovator at OC.  They have some big games coming up and it’ll be interesting to see whether they start to get it together and clean up the pre-snap nonsense.  Because that to me tells me where their level of focus is.

I wouldn't expect significant improvement unless we trade for a top tier WR and/or Brady is replaced

[julian]

13 hours ago, Casey D said:

Neither can the Ravens, who folks say has an awesome front office.  In fact, KC has essentially blocked everyone.   

That’s a convenient excuse, and I’m sure it’s comforting to some fans, but I’m going to continue to put the blame on the roster and coaching as the major factors.

[Boatdrinks]

3 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

I wouldn't expect significant improvement unless we trade for a top tier WR and/or Brady is replaced

I tend to agree, except for maybe the pre-snap penalties. Those aren’t from a lack of talent or innovation. 

[Boatdrinks]

17 minutes ago, julian said:

That’s a convenient excuse, and I’m sure it’s comforting to some fans, but I’m going to continue to put the blame on the roster and coaching as the major factors.

It has to be the roster and coaching. KC being the roadblock is simply the bar that’s been set. There will always be a closest competitor in the conference. Some set a higher bar to clear than others. It’s unfortunate that KC/Reid are at their high point while Allen is at his, but those are the breaks. The roster/ coaching have been very good for quite a few years. Just not quite enough to clear that hurdle completely. It really can’t be anything else. 

[GoBills808]

11 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I tend to agree, except for maybe the pre-snap penalties. Those aren’t from a lack of talent or innovation. 

Are we getting a significant amount of presnap penalties on offense? Honestly haven't noticed anything so unusual

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

It has to be the roster and coaching. KC being the roadblock is simply the bar that’s been set. There will always be a closest competitor in the conference. Some set a higher bar to clear than others. It’s unfortunate that KC/Reid are at their high point while Allen is at his, but those are the breaks. The roster/ coaching have been very good for quite a few years. Just not quite enough to clear that hurdle completely. It really can’t be anything else. 

it cuts both ways

 

w better coaches/players maybe we'd have been KC and the rest of the AFC's roadblock

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

Are we getting a significant amount of presnap penalties on offense? Honestly haven't noticed anything so unusual

Seems to be a lot of false starts ( even at home ) illegal formations etc. Just guys heads not being in the game. I haven’t counted them or anything - just seems to be some general sloppiness to the offense. 

[Nitro]

Sloppy football is unbearable.  Top to bottom.  Gane plan against Atlanta did not account for their blitzing.  Brady and Babich have regressed.  Injuries hampered the team's effectiveness.  This season has been incredibly hard to watch.  Hogh hopes scuttled.  Hope the team can rally and turn things around during the bye.

[Casey D]

10 hours ago, julian said:

That’s a convenient excuse, and I’m sure it’s comforting to some fans, but I’m going to continue to put the blame on the roster and coaching as the major factors.

Good for you.  It's not comforting at all, it is an inconvenient truth.

[GoBills808]

14 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Seems to be a lot of false starts ( even at home ) illegal formations etc. Just guys heads not being in the game. I haven’t counted them or anything - just seems to be some general sloppiness to the offense. 

Think we have 11, 5th fewest on the league

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Think we have 11, 5th fewest on the league

Thanks. Okay, must just be my perception then. As I said, I didn’t count them. However, my point is that i believe the Bills can improve on pre snap penalties ( regardless of Offense or Defense) without getting better players. 

[Casey D]

23 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I am the biggest Josh Allen homer in the world.  He is my favorite athlete to root for, ever.  I am considering getting a 17 tattoo.

 

That said - the past few games (New Orleans included), it has been hard not to notice the dissonance between all of the commercials and media attention he is featured in, and his inability to execute basic handoffs and diagnose blitzes properly.  His mechanics and throws have been mostly fine, he’s still elite, but yet - the details have been off, and one inevitably starts to wonder about his focus.  But you could also say the same thing about the o line and offense as a whole - they just seem distracted and complacent, which they can’t afford to be given their lack of talent at WR and lack of a true innovator at OC.  They have some big games coming up and it’ll be interesting to see whether they start to get it together and clean up the pre-snap nonsense.  Because that to me tells me where their level of focus is.

Son of a B word better not have kids.  He'll be completely useless. 😃

[Thurman#1]

On 10/17/2025 at 1:54 AM, T.E. said:

Poor pass-blocking, receivers who can't get open, and a coaching staff that abandons the running game when it's working is a bad combo for a QB.

 

 

So is playing badly. And Josh did. He doesn't do it often. But every once in a while, yeah. Same with Mahomes, and everyone, really. Comes with being human.

 

He was not good against Atlanta. 

 

That doesn't mean the rest of the team was above criticism, though. Penalties, bad tackling and gap fill problems. A lot going on. But a bad game by the QB is always going to be tough to overcome by any team.

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

On 10/19/2025 at 7:23 AM, GoBills808 said:

I wouldn't expect significant improvement unless we trade for a top tier WR and/or Brady is replaced

 

 

Yeah? I would. And do. Every reason to think it could happen, especially as it seems to go that way every year.

 

Could this be the year it doesn't? Sure. But don't bet the mortgage on it.

 

I fully expect the offense to do a bunch better later in the year. And don't for an instant think they'll consider letting Brady go or that we will get what you would consider a top tier WR. Wouldn't be surprised if they get a mid-tier guy before the deadline, though. And that would likely help.

[zow2]

Josh doesn't really look the same as last season's MVP year (other than the final 4:30 of the Ravens game).  His stats are Ok but he does not look the same i think we can agree, and that is also due to lackluster O-line play and subpar/no chemistry with the wideouts.  

 

On another note, also interesting that Saquon Barkley is only averaging 3.3 ypc on 113 carries... that's a shell of what he was last season.  Lamar is hurt, Burrow is hurt.

 

It just goes to show that playing at the highest level year in and year out is HARD.  Nothing is guaranteed.

 

 

[GoBills808]

10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Yeah? I would. And do. Every reason to think it could happen, especially as it seems to go that way every year.

 

Could this be the year it doesn't? Sure. But don't bet the mortgage on it.

 

I fully expect the offense to do a bunch better later in the year. And don't for an instant think they'll consider letting Brady go or that we will get what you would consider a top tier WR. Wouldn't be surprised if they get a mid-tier guy before the deadline, though. And that would likely help.

A bunch better lol

 

We are 5th in offensive EPA/play w this crew

 

How much better are you thinking they can be?