Where is Landon Jackson ???

[Augie]

50 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Augie…while hindsight is of course a fan’s pastime you do know that scouting and drafting these guys is actually a real job that the Bills are paying professionals to do, right?  One has to wonder are they not very good at it or is there a wide chasm of disconnect between what the scouts think they see and what the coaching staff is actually looking for? 

 

Now that is an actual thought that I appreciate.  I’m glad you didn’t tell us who we could have had in the 3rd round.

 

The drafting seems to be hit or miss. We’ve had some good drafts and some serious meh. I’m always hopeful about a draft class, but I’m more than average about the current class. If Max and Hancock can become plus starters we can get faster back there, especially if Bishop learns to play without having to think too much. We need more speed. That plus the new DL guys this year (especially Hoecht as a versatile piece) and I’m optimistic. It doesn’t hurt my feelings if the best DL comes in the 4th and not the 2nd or 3rd. It doesn’t matter WHERE you got a stud, it matters THAT you got a stud. Duds are sad, but we are far from alone there. 

 

We have a talented team and don’t have to throw guys in there before their time. There is not necessarily a chasm at all. Some of these guys are replacements for guys already on the roster. It’s personnel management that is forward looking, and I appreciate that. I wish it was better, but I doubt that will ever change. 

 

 

EDIT: As I said after the 40-9 win, I still have concerns about the offense and the defense. I’m worried about our defense’s ability to stop a good playoff quality offense, but I see some parts I hope will come together. And I’ll pray that Ed can come back before we are done, Willis Reed style if need be. 

 

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Edited 2 hours ago by Augie

[BVBILLS]

He's been busy filming the next Dune movie 😀

 

Why don't they throw him out there to see what he can do? Is this another Boogie Basham?

Edited 2 hours ago by BVBILLS

[BillsShredder83]

On 9/29/2025 at 4:20 PM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

I had put this in another post:

 

I saw posts on some thread questioning why draft him if he's not going to play.  That answer is simple, at the end of this year both Bosa and Epenesa are free agents and even at DT Jones is likely gone along with Phillips and IMO unless Oliver either has a massive year or agrees to a pay cut he could also be gone as he has a very high cap number.  And while he had a great game 1, it's hard to have a massive year when not playing so that could work against him too.

 

Jackson very likely was drafted to replace Epenesa next season, maybe they will re-sign Bosa depending how his year goes and how much he wants, but next years D-line could look much different.

 

PS       Who the hell is McNugget?

When you have a crap spot on a draft board, too high to reach for talents too low, you draft physical freaks.  The dude is rawwwwwww if you've seen any film.  The guy was always going to be a redshirt!  With that said, tape of him from early college, you'd think he'd never been coached or played football... its a grand canyon sized improvement he made over his career in college... so you bank on the physical traits, and hope that he can make the jump with enough exposure at the next level. 

 

I still like the pick, and I'll be serving up s*** & crow sandwhiches to you all by this time next year

[finn]

3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I am slightly disappointed that Landon can't get in at least back end rotational snaps. BUT if you go back and read the scouting report on Landon most reports read that he was a freak athlete with decent college production in a good conference but that he was somewhat raw and might need a year or two to develop but the upside is Pro-Bowl caliber given that he as previously mentioned is a freak athlete. 

 

The Bills after taking a corner in round 1 and a DT in round 2 the Bills had addressed two of their most urgent defensive needs and the Bills with a early 3rd round pick were in a good position to take a pick on a guy who might not be as impactful year 1 but has massive upside. Similar to how the Bills got Walker a late 1st round talent in early round 4 due to his back injury. The Bills aren't in a position without a massive trade up to get blue chip draft guys. The Blue Chip draft guys they are going to get are going to be players who have flaws and drop. Injury concerns, needs development, character concerns, etc. 

 

So I am a bit bummed Landon thus far has struggled for the most part. But I am not writing off his career just yet. Give him a rookie season to put on some tape and another full off-season to work with the coaches and let's see how he looks next season before we straddle him with the bust label. I would rather the Bills have taken a chance on a guy whose got very high upside but might need a year than go with a lower end athlete who might have been an earlier contributor but is a more limited athlete.

Funny combination of crazy-good RAS score (9.95, 10th best score out of 1829 DEs since 1987) and a stiff body, with little bend to go around the corner. 

[BillsShredder83]

5 hours ago, SCBills said:

Sounds like he was drafted more for next year, but I never heard of him referenced as a raw, developmental player. 
 

Hes a compression/power DE, rotational player.  
 

Thought to have a high floor and lower ceiling, but again.. DE3 hope as an effective rotational guy.  
 

 

The opposite of bolded... but yes, he was most certainly going to redshirt

[That's No Moon]

4 hours ago, GroteStreet said:

what playoffs?

He had a sack in both 2021 and 2022 playoffs. One against New England and another against Miami. 11 total tackles, 2 sacks in 4 playoff games.

 

4.5 career regular season sacks in two years.

 

Meanwhile, Jackson doesn't dress. I assure you, his floor can be lower than Boogie Basham.

[Sojourner]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Augie…while hindsight is of course a fan’s pastime you do know that scouting and drafting these guys is actually a real job that the Bills are paying professionals to do, right?  One has to wonder are they not very good at it or is there a wide chasm of disconnect between what the scouts think they see and what the coaching staff is actually looking for? 

I wonder more if the problem isn’t just the evaluators for the franchise but rather the ones pulling the trigger. These scouts just gather data of players, grade them and then it’s assigned to their big board. 
 

For instance if there was a DE in Landon Jackson with a grade of 80 and a WR or OL that had the same what are the selecting for the team? Even further more, if they believe they have a need for a DE and the highest graded one at the time was 80 but a player with a higher grade, 85 per se, was available do they still select the DE?

 

Ive been on board with most people who say always draft BPA regardless of position (QB excluded). 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, finn said:

Funny combination of crazy-good RAS score (9.95, 10th best score out of 1829 DEs since 1987) and a stiff body, with little bend to go around the corner. 

 

I don't think Efe Obada had a RAS but he would have been #1 out of 1830 and with the least change of direction ability of any of them.    That dude was the ultimate stiff bodied big man.

 

Worst case scenario Jackson is like that and he can't set the edge and becomes a journeyman like Efe.   

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

He had a sack in both 2021 and 2022 playoffs. One against New England and another against Miami. 11 total tackles, 2 sacks in 4 playoff games.

 

4.5 career regular season sacks in two years.

 

Meanwhile, Jackson doesn't dress. I assure you, his floor can be lower than Boogie Basham.

 

You're acting like we have a problem at Edge. The truth is he was always considered a Raw prospect that would probably require some development and honestly, we simply don't need him right now.

 

We've got Joey Bosa, Greg Rousseau, Michael Hoecht (who looked damn impressive last week), and AJ Epenesa (who has made some serious plays for us this season and is a very solid rotational player for us).

 

Edge isn't remotely the problem for us on the Defense. Considering the failures of our Secondary and Linebackers - they're doing a pretty good job of getting home.

 

Jackson, like other 3rd Round Picks in recent memory, was brought in more for replacing guys next season (as AJ Epenesa and Joey Bosa will both be Free Agents) and for depth this season. We've surprisingly stayed completely healthy at Edge and guys are performing well. So, again, we just don't need him right now.

Edited 36 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19

[RichRiderBills]

He's underwhelming. Let's also admit the Bills are turning out to be loaded for now; Groot, Epenesa (playing very well) , Bosa, Hoecht, all better. While I'm not a huge fan of how Solomon is playing, he was also targeted as that roving Hoecht role. 

 

Just not an opportunity for LJ right now. I don't think its panic zone time yet.