Tenhigh Posted September 26 Posted September 26 21 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: You want to know who the loser is in this? Nexstar and its merge partner (Scripps?). What are those stations going to broadcast without ABC? Old time shows like WBBZ in Buffalo? Other dreck? Good luck making your nut on that. In the meantime, ABC learned that it can spread this content to a wide audience via Hulu and YouTube. So maybe OTA TV is in trouble. But the content that these networks can broadcast online is not. I would be pissing bullets if I was at Nextstar, etc. I think the demise of OTA has been inevitable for a while now. Ironically, I think the future state doesn't look at whole lot different than peak cable.
Roundybout Posted September 26 Posted September 26 26 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: I think the demise of OTA has been inevitable for a while now. Ironically, I think the future state doesn't look at whole lot different than peak cable. Just a lot more inconvenient and expensive when you have to add up all the different services 1
boyst Posted September 26 Posted September 26 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: You want to know who the loser is in this? Nexstar and its merge partner (Scripps?). What are those stations going to broadcast without ABC? Old time shows like WBBZ in Buffalo? Other dreck? Good luck making your nut on that. In the meantime, ABC learned that it can spread this content to a wide audience via Hulu and YouTube. So maybe OTA TV is in trouble. But the content that these networks can broadcast online is not. I would be pissing bullets if I was at Nextstar, etc. You don't understand where TV is at these days for broadcast. Broadcast makes money with ad sales and that's dwindling. Eventually, I presume it will be subsized heavily by the government. But since streaming took off during covid TV shows are not anchored to their network like they used to be and now will license out their shows to various other avenues/sources. South Park took major advantage of this with specials on various networks. Recently HBOMax has made major progress along with Paramount to secure content of other brands. As long as this continues no broadcaster will be able to compete. But, where the local affiliates make their bread and butter is their own local news. Much like radio is disappearing local TV is, too. The overall interest in owning media is controlling media. Not so much just for personal political agendas but what it can be tied with in any business conglomerate, as well
SectionC3 Posted September 26 Posted September 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, boyst said: You don't understand where TV is at these days for broadcast. Broadcast makes money with ad sales and that's dwindling. Eventually, I presume it will be subsized heavily by the government. But since streaming took off during covid TV shows are not anchored to their network like they used to be and now will license out their shows to various other avenues/sources. South Park took major advantage of this with specials on various networks. Recently HBOMax has made major progress along with Paramount to secure content of other brands. As long as this continues no broadcaster will be able to compete. But, where the local affiliates make their bread and butter is their own local news. Much like radio is disappearing local TV is, too. The overall interest in owning media is controlling media. Not so much just for personal political agendas but what it can be tied with in any business conglomerate, as well Not true. I understand it well. Local news is a piece of what these guys do. But don’t forget that cross promotion drives viewership. It leads, if you will. If what you’re saying is true, then there’d be no need to be with a network and some peashooter like WBBZ in Buffalo would have greater value to support a robust news department etc. It’s not there. Ask around - the most valuable inventory for these people is local avails for national shoes (now, principally, sports). *** I just read your whole post. Frankly I don’t think we’re too far apart, and that you misread what I wrote. I agree that local TV is headed the way of radio. That’s why Kimmel’s recent success might hasten ABC’s movement to a streaming conglomerate. Nexstar and Scripps want to preempt? Get your programming somewhere else, says ABC. And then buy the stations later for a song if you want that OTA option and after Nextstar can’t make its nut. Edited September 26 by SectionC3
JFKjr Posted September 26 Posted September 26 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Just a lot more inconvenient and expensive when you have to add up all the different services Are you still on cable/satellite? Our bill is less than half after we switched to streaming AND added several services we didn't have before. 1
SectionC3 Posted September 26 Posted September 26 2 hours ago, Tenhigh said: I think the demise of OTA has been inevitable for a while now. Ironically, I think the future state doesn't look at whole lot different than peak cable. I don’t disagree. But I think it’s going to happen faster than people think now. The NFL props a lot of the nets up. Kind of like malls that don’t make a buck until Black Friday. If I’m Disney and the affiliates want to give me a hard time, I’m more inclined to sell direct to consumer via streaming and leave OTA. 1
boyst Posted September 26 Posted September 26 11 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Not true. I understand it well. Local news is a piece of what these guys do. But don’t forget that cross promotion drives viewership. It leads, if you will. If what you’re saying is true, then there’d be no need to be with a network and some peashooter like WBBZ in Buffalo would have greater value to support a robust news department etc. It’s not there. Ask around - the most valuable inventory for these people is local avails for national shoes (now, principally, sports). *** I just read your whole post. Frankly I don’t think we’re too far apart, and that you misread what I wrote. I agree that local TV is headed the way of radio. That’s why Kimmel’s recent success might hasten ABC’s movement to a streaming conglomerate. Nexstar and Scripps want to preempt? Get your programming somewhere else, says ABC. And then buy the stations later for a song if you want that OTA option and after Nextstar can’t make its nut. all good one thing that amazes me having friends in the tv biz, including anchors and producers of local news is that many field reporters and spot reporters have to do their own pre and post production now. an anchor friend of mine in top market (won't reveal it all but between 35 and 45) finally got hired on full time after being an anchor on a contract for over 10 years. this person said that the largest markets often do not even give anything more than a contract to the anchors because they cannot afford it. the local small time reporters are all piece rated for their performance. small town newspaper is even worse with most of it being owned by Hearst and a handful of others. 1
T master Posted September 26 Posted September 26 (edited) On 9/23/2025 at 4:09 PM, Big Blitz said: They speculated the Trump administration did it. They also speculated that Charlie Kirk was shot from friendly fire at his event. These people are serial liars. Also, please buy my book where I play stupid over Biden being mentally fit F Tards powers UNITE !! Edited September 26 by T master
gobills404 Posted September 26 Posted September 26 On 9/22/2025 at 7:17 PM, 4th&long said: Pedo lover. ^^ 0 posts containing the word “Epstein” before July 2024 and 32 posts since then. Y’all didn’t give a crap about Epstein until it became a political weapon for you. 2 1
boyst Posted September 26 Posted September 26 5 minutes ago, gobills404 said: ^^ 0 posts containing the word “Epstein” before July 2024 and 32 posts since then. Y’all didn’t give a crap about Epstein until it became a political weapon for you. also the irony of wanting victims to be protected, believing all victims, etc... but in this case open the files and expose the victims. cuz, ya know, weaponization. 1 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 26 Posted September 26 3 hours ago, gobills404 said: ^^ 0 posts containing the word “Epstein” before July 2024 and 32 posts since then. Y’all didn’t give a crap about Epstein until it became a political weapon for you. In fairness he’s 75% committed to being situationally flexible. He was anti classified docs in a former presidents home, then realized he was part of the pro-Slippage movement while being against presidential pardons before he was for them until January 2025 when he was against them again.
4th&long Posted September 26 Author Posted September 26 3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: In fairness he’s 75% committed to being situationally flexible. He was anti classified docs in a former presidents home, then realized he was part of the pro-Slippage movement while being against presidential pardons before he was for them until January 2025 when he was against them again. Oh no a dumb ass Maga clown made fun of me, what will I do now? Fu*K tard
Wolfgang Posted September 26 Posted September 26 7 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Oh no a dumb ass Maga clown made fun of me, what will I do now? Fu*K tard
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 26 Posted September 26 (edited) 8 hours ago, gobills404 said: ^^ 0 posts containing the word “Epstein” before July 2024 and 32 posts since then. Y’all didn’t give a crap about Epstein until it became a political weapon for you. Untrue. False. Incorrect. Posted August 22, 2019 I left this separate from the main Epstein thread. Lots of people gave been accused or rumored to be friends of Epstein. Shirley there are others. Take a guess or two at whose name might come out some day. It can't be anyone already mentioned or anyone from his black book. I'll start: Stephen Hawking 8 hours ago, B-Man said: . Untrue, false, incorrect \ https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/sep/26/jimmy-kimmel-trump-ratings-escalator Edited September 26 by Joe Ferguson forever
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 26 Posted September 26 19 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Oh no a dumb ass Maga clown made fun of me, what will I do now? Fu*K tard Welp, you probably shouldn’t declare again how you don’t and won’t read what I write, because it makes you look kind of silly when just a short time later you’re scouring posts of others, reading what I write and responding to me. I knew you were not being completely truthful with yourself, I told you so and here we are. Talk soon, 4th&fibber.
4th&long Posted September 27 Author Posted September 27 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Welp, you probably shouldn’t declare again how you don’t and won’t read what I write, because it makes you look kind of silly when just a short time later you’re scouring posts of others, reading what I write and responding to me. I knew you were not being completely truthful with yourself, I told you so and here we are. Talk soon, 4th&fibber. That particular post clown. I didn't say I never read your posts. Sometimes I have hope for you but you are mostly full of sh it. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 27 Posted September 27 Just now, 4th&long said: That particular post clown. I didn't say I never read your posts. Sometimes I have hope for you but you are mostly full of sh it. It’s probably just a perspective thing. Seems to me you pretty much hang around, cr@pping on people, negativity and ugliness seems to be where you’re most comfortable. I think it’s got to be pretty emotionally draining, and am most definitely glad I don’t see most things through that lens. It’s not that I haven’t had stretches like that—I have—but I feel like it it pretty much sucks. Anyway, thanks for almost believing in me. I’ll keep holding out hope for you. 1
4th&long Posted September 27 Author Posted September 27 9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It’s probably just a perspective thing. Seems to me you pretty much hang around, cr@pping on people, negativity and ugliness seems to be where you’re most comfortable. I think it’s got to be pretty emotionally draining, and am most definitely glad I don’t see most things through that lens. It’s not that I haven’t had stretches like that—I have—but I feel like it it pretty much sucks. Anyway, thanks for almost believing in me. I’ll keep holding out hope for you. When Trump stops calling people names I will. You guys worship him, I'm looking to get my own following. It's starting to work.
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