SectionC3 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I was abused by both parents. Knives were used in fights inside my house and there 3 times family members had to go to the ER for treatment. We have had to lie to CPS. Im not a scumbag and I had a rough environment. No violent crimes in my past. 1. Good for you for overcoming and getting out of that BS. Well done, man. 2. You and I agree on violent crime. But we disagree on whether addressing underlying issues can reduce nonviolent crime. Addiction, poverty combined with stupidity, and sometimes just bad hands in life lead to things like petit larceny, CPSPs, drug charges, etc. Those can be stopped before they get worse and mature into more significant criminal activity.
Mikie2times Posted September 11 Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I was abused by both parents. Knives were used in fights inside my house and there 3 times family members had to go to the ER for treatment. We have had to lie to CPS. Im not a scumbag and I had a rough environment. No violent crimes in my past. Do you feel your own personal experiences are reflective of all people? I'm glad you tuned out ok. That doesn't mean the probability that you did is as high as somebody who had a more conventional upbringing. I can call out things I have done that very few people have. Should I expect they all should be able to do so?
Roundybout Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, Wacka said: You really need some mental health help. Genuinely I don't know how to debate you people. You can write any kind of eloquent response and still get ***** like this. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, Mikie2times said: I'm happy you made a good life for yourself. Statistics are pretty conclusive you had a higher likelihood than other people to not turn out ok. Does that mean they shouldn't be held accountable? Not all. Does that mean we should throw away a clear statistical pattern when trying to understand our environment? I hope not. I know how lucky I am. I'm the exception, not the rule. The change starts within. I knew the environment I grew up in wasn't right and I did whatever I had to to break that cycle. I wish people knew how powerful they really are. 1 1 2
Mikie2times Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, AlBUNDY4TDS said: I know how lucky I am. I'm the exception, not the rule. The change starts within. I knew the environment I grew up in wasn't right and I did whatever I had to to break that cycle. I wish people knew how powerful they really are. I agree man 1
SectionC3 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: I ***** knew you were josh allen!!! In all seriousness, this is how we heal as a country and try to move past the chasm that politics have created. Cheers! This is what I do every day. You would be very, very surprised. I'm a no BS, direct, straightforward, and moderate person. (And no, I'm not Josh.) 1
Roundybout Posted September 11 Posted September 11 (edited) Just now, B-Man said: I am speechless. You are that unaware of how your posts appear to others ? . I'm trying extra hard here given the gravity of the situation. It's also rare that @Royale with Cheese shows up here. Edited September 11 by Roundybout
Mikie2times Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Ultimately people have lessons from parents, siblings, peers, religion. A lot of things. To the extent that most of us have a guy on our shoulder that knows what is right or what isn't right. Most of us don't ever think of hurting people for no reason. Those that do and do so for political reasons aren't representing anybody's political beliefs. No morally decent person condones this stuff. I hate how all this stuff is just political ammunition at this point as it just increases the already big divide, but that's just the nature of internet with no accountability for what is said.
JDHillFan Posted September 11 Posted September 11 9 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: This is what I do every day. You would be very, very surprised. I'm a no BS, direct, straightforward, and moderate person. (And no, I'm not Josh.) What leads you to act the way you do here? 1
Tenhigh Posted September 11 Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Ultimately people have lessons from parents, siblings, peers, religion. A lot of things. To the extent that most of us have a guy on our shoulder that knows what is right or what isn't right. Most of us don't ever think of hurting people for no reason. Those that do and do so for political reasons aren't representing anybody's political beliefs. No morally decent person condones this stuff. I hate how all this stuff is just political ammunition at this point as it just increases the already big divide, but that's just the nature of internet with no accountability for what is said. I think we need to all have our real identities on social media, it would make normal folks a lot less likely to act like asshats. 1
Mikie2times Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, Tenhigh said: I think we need to all have our real identities on social media, it would make normal folks a lot less likely to act like asshats. 1000% agree. You put peoples names on it, all the BS goes away. 1
Andy1 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The bottom line is they couldn't out argue him so they killed him. Who the hell is They? Were there multiple shooters? Has the conspiracy already started? 1
JDHillFan Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Just now, Andy1 said: Who the hell is They? Were there multiple shooters? Has the conspiracy already started? It’s a rhetorical device. Not uncommon to see it used in this way. Otherwise, good post.
SectionC3 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: It’s a rhetorical device. Not uncommon to see it used in this way. Otherwise, good post. It's also absolutely premature until LE has a good sense of who is responsible for this murder.
Andy1 Posted September 11 Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: It’s a rhetorical device. Not uncommon to see it used in this way. Otherwise, good post. As far as we know, the shooter was a he and not a they (as in more than one) not that we can rule out a they as in a pronoun. - Bad humor but surely appreciated by many here. 1
Homelander Posted September 11 Posted September 11 As Tucker Carlson would say - just asking questions
The Frankish Reich Posted September 11 Posted September 11 This shooting, and in my area this one at a school. Thankfully only the shooter died. This is a safe area in the foothills of the Rockies. In fact, a friend of mine moved to Evergreen specifically because he wanted a safe, small town type environment for his kids. People up there have guns (not necessarily handguns, which was what was used here) because it's not unheard of for wildlife like bears to wander up onto your deck. I really don't know what to do anymore. 1
Big Blitz Posted September 11 Posted September 11 Full stop. This is unprecedented in the history of the Democrat party since 1929.
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