sherpa Posted August 14 Posted August 14 1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: I think you just made that up. How would killing an Iranian general start WW3? If I said it you should be able to find it. I'm not going to waste my time looking up your silly posts. You claimed, on quite a few occasions that his actions, specifically with Iran, were threatening to get us into WWIII. After the third time you made that claim, I specifically asked you what you were referring to. You either linked or mentionned the killing of that terrorist general intent of killing US deployed troops.
SectionC3 Posted August 14 Posted August 14 35 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Easier said than done. But I'm willing to listen to the details of your plan. More sanctions? Sanctions against they're trading partners? Something else? Let’s start with, and implement before anyone talks about territorial concessions, the “severe consequences” that Trump mentioned today. Once we see what they are, we can talk about enhancements. 15 minutes ago, sherpa said: I'm not going to waste my time looking up your silly posts. You claimed, on quite a few occasions that his actions, specifically with Iran, were threatening to get us into WWIII. After the third time you made that claim, I specifically asked you what you were referring to. You either linked or mentionned the killing of that terrorist general intent of killing US deployed troops. Is this a rule 1 or rule 2 situation from back in the day? I believe it is. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted August 14 Posted August 14 27 minutes ago, sherpa said: I'm not going to waste my time looking up your silly posts. You claimed, on quite a few occasions that his actions, specifically with Iran, were threatening to get us into WWIII. After the third time you made that claim, I specifically asked you what you were referring to. You either linked or mentionned the killing of that terrorist general intent of killing US deployed troops. Sure you are not projecting? You were the one proclaiming disaster if we stood by Ukraine, while I thought we should be doing much more. You agree with that, right? 1
sherpa Posted August 14 Posted August 14 19 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Sure you are not projecting? You were the one proclaiming disaster if we stood by Ukraine, while I thought we should be doing much more. You agree with that, right? Quite incorrect, but not surprising. I have always supported US support for Ukraine. Not sure how you came up with that, but it sure as hell wasn't from me. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 14 Posted August 14 1 hour ago, sherpa said: I'm not going to waste my time looking up your silly posts. You claimed, on quite a few occasions that his actions, specifically with Iran, were threatening to get us into WWIII. After the third time you made that claim, I specifically asked you what you were referring to. You either linked or mentionned the killing of that terrorist general intent of killing US deployed troops. That sounds completely Tiberian. 1
SectionC3 Posted August 14 Posted August 14 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That sounds completely Tiberian. Rule 2. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted August 14 Posted August 14 1 hour ago, sherpa said: Quite incorrect, but not surprising. I have always supported US support for Ukraine. Not sure how you came up with that, but it sure as hell wasn't from me. Oh bull sh it, it took a lot of prodding for you even to admit the simply fact Putin was a war criminal 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That sounds completely Tiberian. No, actually it doesn't, you...let me think of a good one...you nimrod 52 minutes ago, B-Man said: Fabulous AI. Push play. 🤨 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 14 Posted August 14 3 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Oh bull sh it, it took a lot of prodding for you even to admit the simply fact Putin was a war criminal No, actually it doesn't, you...let me think of a good one...you nimrod 🤨
sherpa Posted August 14 Posted August 14 8 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Oh bull sh it, it took a lot of prodding for you even to admit the simply fact Putin was a war criminal No, actually it doesn't, you...let me think of a good one...you nimrod 🤨 No sir. You are incorrect. You are wrong again, and you are lying. I have always advocated for the US support of Ukraine. Always. What I have stated about the stupidity of the "war criminal" allegations is to be careful about it, because it can apply to anyone, including a whole bunch of Americans. I have done more in my life to advocate for the demise of Putin and the old Soviet Guard than you ever will. I spent a couple years teaching the US and other allied nations tactics to destroy that regime. So..In short, you can stick this idiotic accusation...... 1 1
Wacka Posted August 14 Posted August 14 7 hours ago, Roundybout said: Would you say the same for Bibi down in Israel? So those wereJews on paragliders with machine guns on October 7?
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 14 Posted August 14 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Let’s start with, and implement before anyone talks about territorial concessions, the “severe consequences” that Trump mentioned today. Once we see what they are, we can talk about enhancements. Sounds like a reasonable approach. Regards..
sherpa Posted August 14 Posted August 14 The severe consequences are probably sanctions, and are not going to tip the scale. Putin is too far in, and the Russians are fully used to the boiling water frog comparison.
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 14 Posted August 14 2 hours ago, sherpa said: The severe consequences are probably sanctions, and are not going to tip the scale. Putin is too far in, and the Russians are fully used to the boiling water frog comparison. Russia has eliminated the use of the US dollar in Central Bank reserves and has established bi-lateral currency arrangements with partners such as China and India. And has pretty much written off the frozen assets held in the US and European banking systems. So direct sanctions have little effect on them domestically. From all the bluster it sounds like the idea is putting pressure on India which is importing a lot of Russian oil. Using some and reselling the rest out the back door at a profit. How effective those sanction would be is TBD. Then of course there's China. 1
TH3 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 On 8/14/2025 at 12:06 AM, B-Man said: The Alaskan summit is scheduled for Friday, August 15th, in Anchorage, Alaska, between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The primary agenda is to discuss the ongoing war in Ukraine, with Trump aiming to assess Putin's seriousness about ending the conflict. Concerns exist among Ukraine and its allies about potential sidelining of Ukrainian interests during the talks. Here's a breakdown of the key aspects: Location and Date: Anchorage, Alaska, on August 15th. Participants: U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Key Issue: The war in Ukraine. Trump's Stance: Trump has warned of "severe consequences" for Russia if Putin is not serious about ending the war. He also hopes the initial meeting could lead to a larger discussion involving Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Concerns from Ukraine and Allies: There are worries that Ukraine might be marginalized during the talks. Concerns also exist that the meeting could postpone or weaken sanctions against Russia. Trump's Approach: Trump has described the meeting as a "listening exercise". He has also suggested that he might visit Russia after the Alaska summit. The administration has gone out of it's way to avoid calling this meeting as 'negotiations' . This one is just to assess Putin's seriousness about ending the war. The following meeting would include Zelenskyy How bout this: Three decades ago, the newly independent country of Ukraine was briefly the third-largest nuclear power in the world. Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize. In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum. Why doesn’t DT tell Putin Russia to honor this ageeement?
JDHillFan Posted August 15 Posted August 15 4 minutes ago, TH3 said: Why doesn’t DT tell Putin Russia to honor this ageeement? Exactly what I said when Biden said a minor incursion was ok! I wonder who told him to say that. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 15 Posted August 15 16 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Rule 2. Section C; 3. Indeed. 1
SectionC3 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 15 hours ago, sherpa said: The severe consequences are probably sanctions, and are not going to tip the scale. Putin is too far in, and the Russians are fully used to the boiling water frog comparison. So then he's got nothing and it's all bluster? Let's see what happens today, and maybe he can drop these "severe consequences" before the meeting to gain a little bit of leverage. 1 1
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