AP Top 25 Announced

[Mark Vader]

Illinois, Indiana, Iowa State & Southern Methodist(first time in 40 years) all in the AP's Preseason Top 25.

 

https://apnews.com/live/ap-top-25-college-football-poll?tab=00000198-99dc-d60a-abbd-d9df90ff0000

[Mikie2times]

Clemson is the most overrated program in CFB

[PromoTheRobot]

UB actually got one vote.

[SirAndrew]

On 8/11/2025 at 4:07 PM, Mikie2times said:

Clemson is the most overrated program in CFB

Cade Klubnik is about to become a very overrated QB in the draft also. 

[Mark Vader]

On 8/11/2025 at 8:09 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

UB actually got one vote.

Liberty, Nevada-Las Vegas, Toledo, Louisiana-Lafayette & James Madison also received votes.

[YoloinOhio]

Fred Jackson’s son is a freshman RB for Iowa 

[Mark Vader]

On 8/15/2025 at 2:16 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Fred Jackson’s son is a freshman RB for Iowa 

Does that mean Iowa will be able to score on offense for a change?

[GASabresIUFan]

On 8/11/2025 at 4:07 PM, Mikie2times said:

Clemson is the most overrated program in CFB

 Besides their two National Champions in the last decade? 

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFan said:

 Besides their two National Champions in the last decade? 

Well, for about 5 years they have been on par with B grade SEC schools getting consistent top 10 pre season rankings and never coming close to expectations in the weakest division in college football. We should give Nebraska some credit for those Natties with Tommy Frazier. 

[GASabresIUFan]

57 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Well, for about 5 years they have been on par with B grade SEC schools getting consistent top 10 pre season rankings and never coming close to expectations in the weakest division in college football. We should give Nebraska some credit for those Natties with Tommy Frazier. 

What r u talking about?  Nebraska hasn’t been relevant in nearly 30 years. Different coach, different recruiting era etc….

 

Clemson, who I agree with hasn’t been great in recent years, still has the same head coach and has remained relevant by winning the ACC every year but two in the last decade.  
 

PS I‘m a GA fan and IU alum.  

Edited August 20 by GASabresIUFan

[Mikie2times]

11 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

What r u talking about?  Nebraska hasn’t been relevant in nearly 30 years. Different coach, different recruiting era etc….

 

Clemson, who I agree with hasn’t been great in recent years, still has the same head coach and has remained relevant by winning the ACC every year but two in the last decade.  
 

PS I‘m a GA fan and IU alum.  

I was exaggerating for extending credit for past accomplishments. They have not been a top 10 team in awhile. The ACC is just too weak to credit that has some major accomplishment. They’re basically South Carolina at this point. A team that can be top 20 and can also stink it up. Not close to a top 10, those SEC schools would run them as the better ones have. 

[Draconator]

Good to see Penn State at #2. Since I'm a current student there (online), have to find a reason to wear my Penn State t-shirt and hoodie. 

[Buffalo716]

20 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Well, for about 5 years they have been on par with B grade SEC schools getting consistent top 10 pre season rankings and never coming close to expectations in the weakest division in college football. We should give Nebraska some credit for those Natties with Tommy Frazier. 

I mean 2 natty championships and two runner-ups at a non-blue blood is very impressive 

 

And he was absolutely was the best team when he won it twice and deserve to be there the other times 

 

Cade klubnik is about to have a heck of a season..  even Kirby Smart has only won 2

 

And they are much better than South Carolina... And the ACC is a better football conference than the Big 12 now 

 

 

Edited August 20 by Buffalo716

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

I mean 2 natty championships and two runner-ups at a non-blue blood is very impressive 

 

And he was absolutely was the best team when he won it twice and deserve to be there the other times 

 

Cade klubnik is about to have a heck of a season..  even Kirby Smart has only won 2

I understand Clemson at one point was a very good program. Since then, they have been boat raced off the field with any speck of competition outside of the ACC.  

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I understand Clemson at one point was a very good program. Since then, they have been boat raced off the field with any speck of competition outside of the ACC.  

I mean they lost by two touchdowns to Texas .. not 35

 

It's also imperative to say how having the number one overall recruit who becomes a bust for your program set you back... You put years of recruiting efforts for the number one overall prospect in DJ... Just for him to be a massive bust

 

Then they had to scramble to get Cade klubnik ready who was another top recruit but needed to learn like arch Manning.. and they threw him to the fires , before he was ready

 

So there's been up and downs for the last 2-3 years.. still more UPS they won 10 games last year lol

 

And Cade is probably going to bring them back to National relevancy this year 

 

They're not like Ohio State who has three five-star quarterbacks on their roster.. they usually have a entrenched starter.. and a five-star freshman 

 

when the entrenched starter with two years left to play, craps the bed ... It's not like a video game where you just play just as good with the next guy 

 

Cade had a lot of talent but needed a lot of room to grow as a 18-year-old playing major college games.. he still considered young for a senior and is probably going to be a top 10 pick

 

Dabo also is still building from high school recruits.. he's not a transfer portal machine where most of these teams are getting top end upperclassman talent

Edited August 20 by Buffalo716

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

I mean they lost by two touchdowns to Texas .. not 35

 

It's also imperative to say how having the number one overall recruit who becomes a bust for your program set you back... You put years of recruiting efforts for the number one overall prospect in DJ... Just for him to be a massive bust

 

Then they had to scramble to get Cade klubnik ready who was another top recruit but needed to learn like arch Manning.. and they threw him to the fires , before he was ready

 

So there's been up and downs for the last 2-3 years.. still more UPS they won 10 games last year lol

 

And Cade is probably going to bring them back to National relevancy this year 

 

They're not like Ohio State who has three five-star quarterbacks on their roster.. they usually have a entrenched starter.. and a five-star freshman 

 

when the entrenched starter with two years left to play, craps the bed ... It's not like a video game where you just play just as good with the next guy 

 

Cade had a lot of talent but needed a lot of room to grow as a 18-year-old playing major college games.. he still considered young for a senior and is probably going to be a top 10 pick

 

In the last 5 years they have been a preseason top 10 team 4 times and a top 5 team 3 times. They never finished with less than 3 losses while playing in the softest conference in football. It is borderline fraud to put them in the top 10. 

 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:

In the last 5 years they have been a preseason top 10 team 4 times and a top 5 team 3 times. They never finished with less than 3 losses while playing in the softest conference in football. It is borderline fraud to put them in the top 10. 

 

I think the Big 12 is softer but yeah until they put out a 12 win season they should probably stop putting them top five 

 

I still think they're worthy of a top 25

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

I think the Big 12 is softer but yeah until they put out a 12 win season they should probably stop putting them top five 

 

I still think they're worthy of a top 25

I think they're basically South Carolina. Which is 20-25 most years. They play each year and it's always close. I don't have an issue saying Clemson is a top 25 program, but Top 10 is just too much at this point IMO. 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I think they're basically South Carolina. Which is 20-25 most years. They play each year and it's always close. I don't have an issue saying Clemson is a top 25 program, but Top 10 is just too much at this point IMO. 

I think dabo is 10-6 against SC but South Carolina had the old ball coach when he started

 

And he was a legend and building some real old school SEC teams That peaked around 10-13 .. and defended their home turf

Edited August 20 by Buffalo716

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 8/15/2025 at 5:16 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Fred Jackson’s son is a freshman RB for Iowa 

I wonder how many of Travis Henry's kids are playing football? 🤔😁😇

Edited August 20 by Ridgewaycynic2013