BillsFanForever19 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 On 8/4/2025 at 10:43 AM, billsfan89 said: LB'S Terrel Bernard, Matt Milano, Joe Andreeson, Dorian Williams (Adding Shaq Thompson and Spector as they usually like to go with 6 here) Spector has already been released. Quote
Richard Noggin Posted August 12 Posted August 12 On 8/4/2025 at 9:21 AM, BearNorth said: I am wondering if this is the end of the road for the Bills carrying a FB. There were only 12 FB's rostered in the league last season and with Hawes, who is a smart, nasty blocker, do we use the roster spot somewhere else. Love me some Reggie Gilliam. STs stalwart and provides FB/H-back/TE flex on offense. Now, if the Bills DO roster 3 TEs (instead of usual 2) as many are anticipating, a guy like Gilliam could potentially be at risk. But I think he's such a solid 4-down player and maybe more valuable to McD's roster vision than we want to admit. 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted August 12 Posted August 12 My minor contribution to this topic is that I just can't see Olufoshio making the team. I'm intrigued by both Keonta Jenkins and Jimmy Ciarlo. "Jenkins had his most productive NCAA season as a fifth-year player. He lined up as the “Star” in Virginia Tech’s defense, which is essentially a hybrid role as a nickel corner/safety/outside linebacker. He totaled 65 tackles, 10 tackles for loss, one sack, one interception, two forced fumbles, and four pass breakups in 12 games." He put up impressive numbers at his pro day with a 40-yard dash in 4.58 seconds, three-cone drill in 7.18 seconds, 34.5” vertical jump and 9’10” broad jump. He bench-pressed 225 pounds a total of nine times." Ciarlo was one of Army's Captains. "Ciarlo signed with the Jets after going undrafted in the 2024 NFL Draft. He was not invited to the NFL Scouting Combine, but he displayed solid athleticism at Army’s Pro Day. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.66 seconds, did the three-cone drill in 6.97 seconds, and ran the 20-yard shuttle in 4.35 seconds. He benched 225 pounds a total of 34 times, leapt 10’ in the broad jump, and jumped 36” in the vertical leap test." Both of these guys had productive seasons in college and have above average measurables. They both seem to have some intangibles too. 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I disagree with a number of things about your 45. I think there's people on this list that aren't likely to make it and people off of it who are somewhere between a lock or very close to it: - I don't think Mike White is anything close to locked in as QB2. I've said this before, there's no guaranteed money with White and there is with Trubisky. So for White to win, he has to so clearly be the better option that they're willing to pay about 2m in Dead Money for Trubisky and the 1.3m that isn't guaranteed for White on top of it. I think if it's even remotely close (which it is), they're going to go with Trubisky bc that's the cheaper option. I also think that him being friends with Josh also plays a role. - I don't think Elijah Moore is a lock either. I know we all got enamored with his off-season videos and his speed. But reportedly, he hasn't been very impressive in Camp. Meanwhile, Tyrell Shavers has been undeniable. I think on my list I'll be keeping both. But if I were locking in 5 like your list, it would be Shavers in and Moore out. - Forrest... Forrest to me is just a "I don't want Damar Hamlin here and Forrest is the competition, so he's in". I haven't heard anything about him impressing and he's not running above Hamlin in practice or the games. I've said it once, I'll say it a million times, I don't think there's a bigger disconnect in player evaluation than with Hamlin. To the fans, he's terrible and he shouldn't be here. To the brass, he's a guy that they keep bringing him back and putting him in big roles. I'll honestly believe it when I see it that they feel like he can't even be a Backup for this team given his role last year. - And obviously, Deone Walker is making this team. I'm assuming you just brain farted leaving him off the list. We've never outright cut even a 5th Rounder the same year we Drafted them - let alone a 4th Rounder like Walker. All that said, here's my feeling on the roster as of today: QB: Josh Allen #17 Mitch Trubusky #11 RB: James Cook III #4 Ray Davis #22 Ty Johnson #26 - Reggie Gilliam #41 WR: Khalil Shakir #10 Joshua Palmer #5 Keon Coleman #0 Curtis Samuel #1 Elijah Moore #18 Tyrell Shavers #80 TE: Dalton Kincaid #86 Dawson Knox #88 Jackson Hawes #85 OL: Dion Dawkins #73 David Edwards #76 Connor McGovern #66 O'Cyrus Torrence #64 Spencer Brown #79 - Tylan Grable #68 Ryan Van Demark #74 Alec Anderson #70 Chase Lundt #77 DE: Joey Bosa #97 Greg Rousseau #50 AJ Epenesa #57 Landon Jackson #94 Javon Solomon #56 DT: Ed Oliver #91 Daquan Jones #92 T.J. Sanders #98 Dewayne Carter #90 Deone Walker #96 LB: Matt Milano #58 Terrel Bernard #8 Dorian Williams #42 Shaq Thompson #45 Joe Andreessen #44 CB: Christian Benford #47 Maxwell Hairston #31 Taron Johnson #7 (Nickel) Tre'Davious White #27 Dorian Strong #43 Brandon Codrington #29 (KR/PR) S: Taylor Rapp #9 Cole Bishop #24 Damar Hamlin #3 Jordan Hancock #37 (Nickel/Safety) Cam Lewis #39 (Nickel/Safety) ST: Tyler Bass #2 Reid Ferguson #69 Brad Robbins #40 Roster Exempt: DE Michael Hoecht #55 (Suspended) DT Larry Ogunjobi #99 (Suspended) C Sedrick Van Pran-Granger #62 (PUP) I think I agree with this 100%. Maybe Shaq Thompson and/or Chase Lundt don't make the initial roster in favor of some other late riser(s)? Who knows. But in general, couldn't agree more. Especially appreciate your recognition that both Lewis and Hancock, respectively, represent the Bills current and future invaluable NCB/S position flex. Taron Johnson gets banged up. Our safeties get banged up. Gotta have these guys in the wings. We should anticipate that the Bills will use at least 1 or 2 PUP or IR (designated to return) exceptions in order to hang onto the 54th/55th guys, who would actually represent the 56th/57th ranked players when you account for the PED bros. Is it crazy to suggest Hairston red-shirts the first 4ish games on PUP or IR? Curtis Samuel seems like another candidate for roster manipulation. *this all assumes injuries don't make decisions for us, like they apparently did with Spector. Edited August 12 by Richard Noggin 2 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: I think I agree with this 100%. Maybe Shaq Thompson and/or Chase Lundt don't make the initial roster in favor of some other late riser(s)? Who knows. But in general, couldn't agree more. Especially appreciate your recognition that both Lewis and Hancock, respectively, represent the Bills current and future invaluable NCB/S position flex. Taron Johnson gets banged up. Our safeties get banged up. Gotta have these guys in the wings. We should anticipate that the Bills will use at least 1 or 2 PUP or IR (designated to return) exceptions in order to hang onto the 54th/55th guys, who would actually represent the 56th/57th ranked players when you account for the PED bros. Is it crazy to suggest Hairston red-shirts the first 4ish games on PUP or IR? Curtis Samuel seems like another candidate for roster manipulation. *this all assumes injuries don't make decisions for us, like they apparently did with Spector. I don't think Hairston lands on PUP. From all accounts, he should be ready to roll Week 1. Maybe they sit him for the opener, but he's too important to put on the shelf for the first 4 weeks. Someone like SVPG, given that it's said he probably won't be ready by Week 1 and that he's essentially 3rd string Center/Interior - that makes more sense to me. Which is why I stuck him there. Honestly, with him on PUP and with the roster exempts for Hoecht/Ogunjobi, I was able to fit pretty much everyone who should be on this roster on to it with relative ease. So I don't think there's really a need to put anyone else there. And to your point on Lundt and Thompson, if not them, it would be someone else at those positions. As 5 at LB and 9 at OL is the minimum they'll carry at each. Ja'Marcus Ingram and Edefuan Olofoshio were the only guys that I felt were sort of tough cuts. But with Ingram, I have a hard time seeing us keeping 7 CB's (even with Codrington being a Returner). Olofoshio they may not want to give up on so quickly, so maybe someone is surprise IR'ed to return to place him. Or maybe they cut Thompson instead. Curtis Samuel... idk. I think he should stick. I see names like Samuel, Epenesa, etc. pop up as Trade candidates and I'm just sort of like "why?". Depth is a good thing. He showed up at the end of the year when he was healthy and I think he can be good for us. It's not like we're game busters at WR even with him. Why make us worse? And as I said before, I was able to fit everyone who should stick at WR, with him still on the roster. Do we really want to move a talent like Samuel so we can keep an Olofoshio or an Ingram? Or move him to keep another WR like Wilkerson or Shenault? Nah, I say keep the guy. Unless he's part of a trade for a more talented WR, which is very unlikely to happen. Edited August 12 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted August 12 Posted August 12 58 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I don't think Hairston lands on PUP. From all accounts, he should be ready to roll Week 1. Maybe they sit him for the opener, but he's too important to put on the shelf for the first 4 weeks. I don't think he can go on PUP now. You have to be on PUP to start camp to stay on PUP. Once they are into camp if you are hurt you go on IR (point stands though that puts him out 4 weeks and I can't see them doing that). 2 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted August 12 Author Posted August 12 (edited) 55 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think he can go on PUP now. You have to be on PUP to start camp to stay on PUP. Once they are into camp if you are hurt you go on IR (point stands though that puts him out 4 weeks and I can't see them doing that). you are correct. The rule states "In the NFL, a player cannot be placed on the PUP list if they have already practiced or played in a preseason game." Another words.. he would of had to go on pup in training camp. Cant put him in this far in. ****Edited I believe Aug. 1 was deadline for pup lists Edited August 12 by PrimeTime101 Quote
GunnerBill Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) I have avoided a roster prediction thus far.... but let's have a got at a 53.... now that we have seen a pre-season game: QB: Allen; Trubisky (2) FB: Gilliam (1) RB: Cook; Davis; Johnson (3) TE: Kincaid; Knox; Hawes (3) WR: Shakir; Coleman; Palmer; Samuel; Moore (5) OL: Dawkins; Edwards; McGovern; Torrence; Brown; Grable; Van Demark; Anderson; Lundt (9) DE: Rousseau; Epenesa; Bosa; Solomon; Jackson (5) DT: Oliver; Jones; Sanders; Carter; Walker (5) LB: Milano; Bernard; Andreessen; Williams; Thompson (5) CB: Benford; Hairston; White; Johnson; Strong; Hancock; Codrington (7) SAF: Rapp; Bishop; Hamlin; Lewis; Forrest (5) ST: Ferguson; Bass; Robbins (3) PUP: Van Pran-Granger (1) SUS: Hoecht; Ogonjobi (2) Edited August 12 by GunnerBill 1 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I have avoided a roster prediction thus far.... but let's have a got at a 53.... now that we have seen a pre-season game: QB: Allen; Trubisky (2) FB: Gilliam (1) RB: Cook; Davis; Johnson (3) TE: Kincaid; Knox; Hawes (3) WR: Shakir; Coleman; Palmer; Samuel; Moore; Shavers (6) OL: Dawkins; Edwards; McGovern; Torrence; Brown; Grable; Van Demark; Anderson; Lundt (9) DE: Rousseau; Epenesa; Bosa; Solomon (4) DT: Oliver; Jones; Sanders; Carter; Walker (5) LB: Milano; Bernard; Andreessen; Williams; Thompson (5) CB: Benford; Hairston; White; Johnson; Strong; Hancock; Codrington (7) SAF: Rapp; Bishop; Hamlin; Lewis; Forrest (5) ST: Ferguson; Bass; Robbins (3) PUP: Van Pran-Granger (1) SUS: Hoecht; Ogonjobi (2) We have the exact same roster. Except you have Darrick Forrest and I have Landon Jackson. Who I'm assuming you just forgot? I mean, I know he didn't look great in Pre-Season Game 1 - but cutting the 72nd Pick in the Draft after Rookie Training Camp is bold 😀 Edited August 12 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
GunnerBill Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 48 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: We have the exact same roster. Except you have Darrick Forrest and I have Landon Jackson. Who I'm assuming you just forgot? I mean, I know he didn't look great in Pre-Season Game 1 - but cutting the 72nd Pick in the Draft after Rookie Training Camp is bold 😀 I knew I'd forgotten someone on the DL!!! Yes. Take Shavers out. 5 receivers. EDITED my post. And just on Forrest... it comes down to special teams. I don't think they have six rosterable linebackers right now; none of the five receivers we presume will make the roster can offer you special teams snaps; Strong and Hancock both have some experience on coverage teams in college but different rules in the NFL etc and there are no vet corners playing teams on this roster. If I had to put together a special teams core right now (you generally need 8 or 9 guys who can play on most coverage and return teams) from guys I'm sure will be on the roster it is: Hawes, Gilliam, Soloman, Andreessen, Lewis, Strong, Hancock.... That feels at least one light. I think Forrest was brought here to play teams rather than safety. It does leave the overall roster defense heavy.... but on the flip side the offense feels a lot more settled. Both starters and backups. The reason I think they might keep more on defense is because they don't have as clear of a pecking order at DL and DB in particular. Edited August 12 by GunnerBill 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 14 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I knew I'd forgotten someone on the DL!!! Yes. Take Shavers out. 5 receivers. EDITED my post. And just on Forrest... it comes down to special teams. I don't think they have six rosterable linebackers right now; none of the five receivers we presume will make the roster can offer you special teams snaps; Strong and Hancock both have some experience on coverage teams in college but different rules in the NFL etc and there are no vet corners playing teams on this roster. If I had to put together a special teams core right now (you generally need 8 or 9 guys who can play on most coverage and return teams) from guys I'm sure will be on the roster it is: Hawes, Gilliam, Soloman, Andreessen, Lewis, Strong, Hancock.... That feels at least one light. I think Forrest was brought here to play teams rather than safety. It does leave the overall roster defense heavy.... but on the flip side the offense feels a lot more settled. Both starters and backups. The reason I think they might keep more on defense is because they don't have as clear of a pecking order at DL and DB in particular. Alright, so now we have the same roster with the only exception being I have Shavers and you have Forrest. My feeling is Shavers can also be used on Special Teams. When he was initially brought on board as a UDFA, it was in large part bc they felt he could be a core ST'er. I recall McDermott saying recently something along the lines of "we know what he brings as a WR, we need to see what he brings on Teams" - which I thought was odd bc again, I remember them hyping up his Teams potential when they gave him guaranteed money as a UDFA. So I guess we'll see how he performs and is evaluated there throughout the Pre-Season. We agree that last spot needs to play ST's. I just feel that if it's close, it should go to Shavers given his performance this off-season. Edited August 13 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Curious once roster cuts are made, if Beane will look to strengthen the LB and S positions, if an experienced player comes available. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) QB: Allen; Trubisky (2) FB: Gilliam (1) RB: Cook; Davis; Johnson (3) TE: Kincaid; Knox; Hawes (3) WR: Shakir; Coleman; Palmer; Samuel; Shavers, (5). Possible: Moore OL: Dawkins; Edwards; McGovern; Torrence; Brown; Grable; Lundt; Anderson; (8). Likely: Green (53rd player) Less likely: Van Denmark DE: Rousseau; Epenesa; Bosa; Solomon; Jackson (5) DT: Oliver; Jones; Sanders; Carter; Walker (5) LB: Milano; Bernard; Andreessen; Williams; Thompson (5) Less possible: Ulofoshio CB: Benford; Hairston; White; Johnson; Strong; Hancock; (6) Possible: Ingram SAF: Rapp; Bishop; Hamlin; Lewis; Forrest (5) ST: Ferguson; Bass; Robbins, Shenault (KR)(4) PUP: Van Pran-Granger (1) SUS: Hoecht; Ogonjobi (2) Right now, I think Forrest, Green (C/G), Moore, Ingram, Ulofoshio, and Van Denmark are players 52-57. I think Moore and Green make the team right now as someone on the current injury list won’t be ready for opening day besides SVPG. Given the injuries to Brown, Dawkins, Anderson and SVPG along the OL, Green is my current 53rd player as SVPG replacement. With Samuel and Shakir already nicked up, Moore looks like the next option, but right now I have Shenault winning the KR job and Shavers making the team as both play Special teams. Thompson’s injury status could open the door for Ulofoshio. I have Shavers over Moore because of size, special teams, and I think he can grow into a Hollins type role on the Bills. His 68 yard catch and run last season still resonates with me and by all accounts he's had a very good camp. I am curious which two guys along the D-line could get axed when the suspended players return. I doubt we carry 12 players along the DL. Edited August 13 by GASabresIUFan 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 43 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: QB: Allen; Trubisky (2) FB: Gilliam (1) RB: Cook; Davis; Johnson (3) TE: Kincaid; Knox; Hawes (3) WR: Shakir; Coleman; Palmer; Samuel; Shavers, (5). Possible: Moore OL: Dawkins; Edwards; McGovern; Torrence; Brown; Grable; Lundt; Anderson; (8). Likely: Green (53rd player) Less likely: Van Denmark DE: Rousseau; Epenesa; Bosa; Solomon; Jackson (5) DT: Oliver; Jones; Sanders; Carter; Walker (5) LB: Milano; Bernard; Andreessen; Williams; Thompson (5) Less possible: Ulofoshio CB: Benford; Hairston; White; Johnson; Strong; Hancock; (6) Possible: Ingram SAF: Rapp; Bishop; Hamlin; Lewis; Forrest (5) ST: Ferguson; Bass; Robbins, Shenault (KR)(4) PUP: Van Pran-Granger (1) SUS: Hoecht; Ogonjobi (2) Right now, I think Forrest, Green (C/G), Moore, Ingram, Ulofoshio, and Van Denmark are players 52-57. I think Moore and Green make the team right now as someone on the current injury list won’t be ready for opening day besides SVPG. Given the injuries to Brown, Dawkins, Anderson. SVPG along the OL, Green is my current 53rd player as SVPG replacement. With Samuel and Shakir already nicked up, Moore looks like the next option, but right I have Shenault winning the KR job and Shavers making the ream as both play Special teams. Thompson’s injury status could open the door for Ulofoshio. I have Shavers over Moore because of size, special teams, and I think he can grow into a Hollins type role on the Bills. His 68 yard catch and run last season still resonates with me and by all accounts he's had a very good camp. I am curious which two guys along the D-line could get axed when the suspended players return. I doubt we carry 12 players along the DL. great work 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 16 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I don't think Hairston lands on PUP. From all accounts, he should be ready to roll Week 1. Maybe they sit him for the opener, but he's too important to put on the shelf for the first 4 weeks. Someone like SVPG, given that it's said he probably won't be ready by Week 1 and that he's essentially 3rd string Center/Interior - that makes more sense to me. Which is why I stuck him there. Honestly, with him on PUP and with the roster exempts for Hoecht/Ogunjobi, I was able to fit pretty much everyone who should be on this roster on to it with relative ease. So I don't think there's really a need to put anyone else there. And to your point on Lundt and Thompson, if not them, it would be someone else at those positions. As 5 at LB and 9 at OL is the minimum they'll carry at each. Ja'Marcus Ingram and Edefuan Olofoshio were the only guys that I felt were sort of tough cuts. But with Ingram, I have a hard time seeing us keeping 7 CB's (even with Codrington being a Returner). Olofoshio they may not want to give up on so quickly, so maybe someone is surprise IR'ed to return to place him. Or maybe they cut Thompson instead. Curtis Samuel... idk. I think he should stick. I see names like Samuel, Epenesa, etc. pop up as Trade candidates and I'm just sort of like "why?". Depth is a good thing. He showed up at the end of the year when he was healthy and I think he can be good for us. It's not like we're game busters at WR even with him. Why make us worse? And as I said before, I was able to fit everyone who should stick at WR, with him still on the roster. Do we really want to move a talent like Samuel so we can keep an Olofoshio or an Ingram? Or move him to keep another WR like Wilkerson or Shenault? Nah, I say keep the guy. Unless he's part of a trade for a more talented WR, which is very unlikely to happen. Hoping for trade opportunity or two at some point Quote
3rdand12 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 53 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: QB: Allen; Trubisky (2) FB: Gilliam (1) RB: Cook; Davis; Johnson (3) TE: Kincaid; Knox; Hawes (3) WR: Shakir; Coleman; Palmer; Samuel; Shavers, (5). Possible: Moore OL: Dawkins; Edwards; McGovern; Torrence; Brown; Grable; Lundt; Anderson; (8). Likely: Green (53rd player) Less likely: Van Denmark DE: Rousseau; Epenesa; Bosa; Solomon; Jackson (5) DT: Oliver; Jones; Sanders; Carter; Walker (5) LB: Milano; Bernard; Andreessen; Williams; Thompson (5) Less possible: Ulofoshio CB: Benford; Hairston; White; Johnson; Strong; Hancock; (6) Possible: Ingram SAF: Rapp; Bishop; Hamlin; Lewis; Forrest (5) ST: Ferguson; Bass; Robbins, Shenault (KR)(4) PUP: Van Pran-Granger (1) SUS: Hoecht; Ogonjobi (2) Right now, I think Forrest, Green (C/G), Moore, Ingram, Ulofoshio, and Van Denmark are players 52-57. I think Moore and Green make the team right now as someone on the current injury list won’t be ready for opening day besides SVPG. Given the injuries to Brown, Dawkins, Anderson. SVPG along the OL, Green is my current 53rd player as SVPG replacement. With Samuel and Shakir already nicked up, Moore looks like the next option, but right I have Shenault winning the KR job and Shavers making the ream as both play Special teams. Thompson’s injury status could open the door for Ulofoshio. I have Shavers over Moore because of size, special teams, and I think he can grow into a Hollins type role on the Bills. His 68 yard catch and run last season still resonates with me and by all accounts he's had a very good camp. I am curious which two guys along the D-line could get axed when the suspended players return. I doubt we carry 12 players along the DL. Boy I do wonder about the Moore, coming or going, Shavers has earned plenty though. Why isn't he pushing the oft injured Samuel off though? and Where White Steve on the list ! 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 47 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Hoping for trade opportunity or two at some point Whom and for what? The odds of a player for player trade where we're going to upgrade somewhere is extremely slim. So if we're moving someone, it's probably going to be for some kind of picks in 2026. I'd rather keep the kind of players that we'd get picks for from other teams as depth rather than get stuff that isn't going to help us now. Unless it's someone we were going to cut anyways. Edited August 13 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
boyst Posted August 13 Posted August 13 15 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I have avoided a roster prediction thus far.... but let's have a got at a 53.... now that we have seen a pre-season game: QB: Allen; Trubisky (2) FB: Gilliam (1) RB: Cook; Davis; Johnson (3) TE: Kincaid; Knox; Hawes (3) WR: Shakir; Coleman; Palmer; Samuel; Moore (5) OL: Dawkins; Edwards; McGovern; Torrence; Brown; Grable; Van Demark; Anderson; Lundt (9) DE: Rousseau; Epenesa; Bosa; Solomon; Jackson (5) DT: Oliver; Jones; Sanders; Carter; Walker (5) LB: Milano; Bernard; Andreessen; Williams; Thompson (5) CB: Benford; Hairston; White; Johnson; Strong; Hancock; Codrington (7) SAF: Rapp; Bishop; Hamlin; Lewis; Forrest (5) ST: Ferguson; Bass; Robbins (3) PUP: Van Pran-Granger (1) SUS: Hoecht; Ogonjobi (2) And when the suspended come back it'll be low man on totem pole. I'm hoping they don't get much playing time and can be stashed on the PS. I could also see us having White healthy and cutting a CB to put on PS. If we are healthy there... Of course. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 38 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Where White Steve on the list ! I'm assuming you're joking here. As I said in another post, he's going to have a hard time even making the Practice Squad. We'll keep 5 to 6 on the 53 and probably 3 on the PS. And if you take the 4 locks of Shakir, Palmer, Coleman, and Samuel - that leaves 4-5 spots on the squad between 53 and PS for Tyrell Shavers, Elijah Moore, Laviska Shenault, KJ Hamler, Kaden Prather, Kristian Wilkerson, Deon Cain, Jalen Virgil, and "White Steve". He's really up against it to be in the Top 4-5 of that list. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 58 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Boy I do wonder about the Moore, coming or going, Shavers has earned plenty though. Why isn't he pushing the oft injured Samuel off though? Moore has done nothing in camp and didn't do anything in the preseason game. Beane invested big $ (relatively speaking) in Samuel and he is hurt again. I'd have dumped Samuel after last season, but his dead cap is $12 mil. Moore's dead cap if cut is only 2.5. That's 9.5 million reasons Samuel over Moore. In the battle between Codrington vs Shenault, Codrington has no cap cost to cut while Shenault's is only 15K. Other guys on the bubble ($ from spotrac.com) Hamlin - $2,000,000 (he's not getting cut) Dane Jackson - 567.5K dead cap if cut Ulofoshio - 235.5K Forrest - 167.5 K Shavers - 7K Ingram - $3,750 Mike White - 0 Kendrick Green - 0 Thompson - 0 Van Demark - 0 DL possibly on the bubble once Ogunjobi and Hoecht return Carter - 662K Solomon - 191K Edited August 13 by GASabresIUFan 1 Quote
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