Kilmar Abrego Garcia is on his way back to the US to face criminal charges

[BillsFanNC]

More heroes for RoundyMao 

 

 

[stevestojan]

10 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

It's something isn't it Steve.

 

You spend your whole life, living, experiencing, forming your own opinion about things.

 

Then you go on a political board, demonstrate your world view and try and present clear, logical, and convincing liberal posts over a 22 year period.

 

And then a supposed fellow liberal (with a two digit IQ) keeps calling you out because you didn't fall in to lockstep with the other extremists.

 

 

In fairness (really to my friends on the other side of the aisle) I haven’t always taken the high road, clearly. 
 

But, I’ve have the ability to read through much of the fray and theatrics here, and in doing so have actually learned a thing or two that doesn’t follow the “red is bad, blue is right/righteous.” I still very much believe - as part of my ethics , personality, upbringing, and sensibilities - in the liberal ideals. Call it a bleeding heart, but I do feel as a whole, the democratic party has historically shown more empathy and continues to today. But as with most things, the squeaky wheels get the oil. And the squeaky wheels on the left are so god damned squeaky and emotional that they can’t see the stupidity for the trees. 
 

This case in particular is a horribly excellent example of blindly following party lines and a use case to call the right evil for deporting a “poor hardworking man” and then not being able to say “well, crap, we were wrong. This man is human garbage. Good riddance” and then back peddling to say “it’s not this one man; it’s the principle!!”  
 

But I will say I do appreciate you and others starting to hold true political discussions and not cherry picking the nutsos on the left from Twitter (of course some the rights squeakiest of course solely rely on the purple haired weirdos to “prove” a point, but I digress). As you all know we can find the example of the maga extremists making your party look equally unhinged. The truth - as always - lies much more in the fact that if we had a beer summit, we’d all agree on much more than we seemingly vehemently disagree with through the anonymity of a keyboard.  
 

Not sure if this makes sense. It’s early here, I got up at 4:30a with a toddler going through a sleep regression, and I’m in CA, so I’m sure I have a granola protest to go to later this afternoon. 

[JDHillFan]

50 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

In fairness (really to my friends on the other side of the aisle) I haven’t always taken the high road, clearly. 
 

But, I’ve have the ability to read through much of the fray and theatrics here, and in doing so have actually learned a thing or two that doesn’t follow the “red is bad, blue is right/righteous.” I still very much believe - as part of my ethics , personality, upbringing, and sensibilities - in the liberal ideals. Call it a bleeding heart, but I do feel as a whole, the democratic party has historically shown more empathy and continues to today. But as with most things, the squeaky wheels get the oil. And the squeaky wheels on the left are so god damned squeaky and emotional that they can’t see the stupidity for the trees. 
 

This case in particular is a horribly excellent example of blindly following party lines and a use case to call the right evil for deporting a “poor hardworking man” and then not being able to say “well, crap, we were wrong. This man is human garbage. Good riddance” and then back peddling to say “it’s not this one man; it’s the principle!!”  
 

But I will say I do appreciate you and others starting to hold true political discussions and not cherry picking the nutsos on the left from Twitter (of course some the rights squeakiest of course solely rely on the purple haired weirdos to “prove” a point, but I digress). As you all know we can find the example of the maga extremists making your party look equally unhinged. The truth - as always - lies much more in the fact that if we had a beer summit, we’d all agree on much more than we seemingly vehemently disagree with through the anonymity of a keyboard.  
 

Not sure if this makes sense. It’s early here, I got up at 4:30a with a toddler going through a sleep regression, and I’m in CA, so I’m sure I have a granola protest to go to later this afternoon. 

Kudos to you. Common sense is always good, appreciated, and unfortunately, rare. 

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, stevestojan said:

Not sure if this makes sense. It’s early here, I got up at 4:30a with a toddler going through a sleep regression, and I’m in CA,

 

so I’m sure I have a granola protest to go to later this afternoon. 

 

 

 

                                

 

 

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

1. Glad they brought him back. Was the TN prosecution a face-saving mechanism for getting him back? A real, good chance of winning prosecution? Time will tell. I'm skeptical of the viability of the charges because the U.S. Attorney resigned rather than sign off on it.

 

2. Legal issues: to be guilty of transporting aliens, you need to have at least constructive knowledge that the transportees are illegally present. Based on the Biden Administration's actions at the border - something I did not and do not support - there's probably a good chance these transporters didn't sneak in undetected, but rather were released from Border Patrol custody with a Notice to Appear in immigration court somewhere. And that "somewhere" may have been where Abrego was headed. In other words: "illegal aliens" allowed to remain in the United States, so not really illegal in the common sense of the word. 

 

3. Fact issues: time has passed, it won't be easy for the new Acting U.S. Attorney to find witnesses, etc. In other words, this never would have been prosecuted today (June 2025) if the U.S. government hadn't made a mistake by prematurely deporting him to El Salvador. Make of that what you will.