For those saying “this is what we voted for…”

[BillsFanNC]

12 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

I'll qualify and say that I don't support federal agents waiting to grab "migrants" as migrants can actually be here legally, and that's precisely why the left uses the term to conflate migrants with ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS.

[JDHillFan]

15 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Conversely, how do you think affluent, college educated voters are reacting to attacks on Harvard, NPR/PBS?

The real question - does anyone actually care what affluent, college educated voters think about NPR/PBS? It’s a rhetorical question. 

[Homelander]

This is what they voted for...

 

 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Did we reach white men?  Nope.  As I said many are angry and resentful for financial reasons for which there isn't an easy answer other than lying to them.  sadly, for the country, one is a growing demographic and one is shrinking.

 

Conversely, how do you think affluent, college educated voters are reacting to attacks on Harvard, NPR/PBS?  I suppose, by the numbers, it's better to appeal to the former than the latter...

Anyone upset about Harvard funding being pulled and/or listen to NPR is typically not voting for a Republican anytime soon. 
 

The low propensity middle class voter loves the idea of pulling funding for Harvard and giving it to trade schools.. as Trump floated.  This is how you make some of them into reliable voters. 

[LDD]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Anyone upset about Harvard funding being pulled and/or listen to NPR is typically not voting for a Republican anytime soon. 
 

The low propensity middle class voter loves the idea of pulling funding for Harvard and giving it to trade schools.. as Trump floated.  This is how you make some of them into reliable voters. 

 

So, I guess it would be the fight against that type of ignorance that educators seek to overcome.  That idea is nothing more than a line from political theatre.  Harvard and Trade Schools perform two completely separate purposes with neither being more or less important than the other in the end game.  We need both desperately and to rob one to feed another is a f-in joke.  

 

The only people not concerned with Harvard's research funding being pulled don't understand how Harvard's research benefits their life.  It's not some club.  These are some of the most serious academics, laboratories and think tanks on the planet and they serve our country...ours.  Trump's little hissy fit only strengthens and emboldens our enemies.  

[Homelander]

This is what they voted for...

 

 

[Homelander]

No, Chuck, MAGA didn't vote for that. Trump promised to end the war within 24 hours, and they believed him.

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Did we reach white men?  Nope.  As I said many are angry and resentful for financial reasons for which there isn't an easy answer other than lying to them.  sadly, for the country, one is a growing demographic and one is shrinking.

 

Conversely, how do you think affluent, college educated voters are reacting to attacks on Harvard, NPR/PBS?  I suppose, by the numbers, it's better to appeal to the former than the latter...

I think like most issues, affluent, college educated voters will fall into one of three categories:

 

1. They don’t give a hoot about special deals for Harvard, pro or con, and are just moving along with life;

 

2.  They skew R/I and believe an in-depth review of dollars spent/contributed and tax advantages provided to an/the institution is a positive thing;

 

3. They skew D/I and believe any questions about value/tax status are beneath the institution and whatever costs/tax privilege involved should not be questioned and are insufficient; 

 

Ironically, subgroup 3 is also most likely to demand personal loan obligations be transferred from them to some other party who took advantage of them--and if that loan was transferred to Harvard, Columbia, NYU or Chucky Cheese, they would be first in line to fill out the paperwork. 

 

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by leh-nerd skin-erd

[Taro T]

4 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

i don't stand for any of these nor do any progressives I know.  re 5, we know why. people are angry and resentful often due to financial distress.  Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.  It appears we've reached our standard of living peak and are on the downslope.  It doesn't look to me that's going to change regardless of party.

 

You don't stand for those things, nor do you know any progressives that stand for those things, but you continually vote for people that DO support those things.  You honestly don't see how you defacto support them?

 

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Did we reach white men?  Nope.  As I said many are angry and resentful for financial reasons for which there isn't an easy answer other than lying to them.  sadly, for the country, one is a growing demographic and one is shrinking.

 

Conversely, how do you think affluent, college educated voters are reacting to attacks on Harvard, NPR/PBS?  I suppose, by the numbers, it's better to appeal to the former than the latter...

 

Your party didn't reach white men, non-elderly white women, Latinos in the country legally, and young people and also lost ground among blacks and other groups.  Continue, as your party seems determined to do, to view the D's problem in the last 3 elections as only being a "we don't reach white men" problem and you will end up with either President Vance or President Rubio in 4 years.

 

Funny how you're fine with politicians lying to the populace.  Because the continued lying by your favorite party's politicians and the cover run for them by the established media is a BIG part of why your favorite party has problems with all those groups listed above.

 

How do college educated voters react to attacks on NPR/PBS?  Depends upon whether they're of a libertarian bent or more satisified with authoritarianism.  Those with a libertarian bent don't necessarily see a reason for the government to be providing TV and radio and the beaurocracy's take on daily events when there are literally hundreds if not thousands of sources available to everyone.  (The media landscape has changed quite a bit since 1970.)  Of course, the authoritarians would like for the "dangerous" and "fake news" sources to be silenced so only approved "good" sources will be heard.  You know, like cancelling the voices of anyone who dared to say 46 was turning into a kumquat before our eyes as opposed to those heroic noble voices telling you not to believe your lying eyes and ears but to rather trust them as they saw him nearly daily and knew he was sharp as a tack.

[BillsFanNC]

5 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

You don't stand for those things, nor do you know any progressives that stand for those things, but you continually vote for people that DO support those things.  You honestly don't see how you defacto support them?

 

 

Your party didn't reach white men, non-elderly white women, Latinos in the country legally, and young people and also lost ground among blacks and other groups.  Continue, as your party seems determined to do, to view the D's problem in the last 3 elections as only being a "we don't reach white men" problem and you will end up with either President Vance or President Rubio in 4 years.

 

Funny how you're fine with politicians lying to the populace.  Because the continued lying by your favorite party's politicians and the cover run for them by the established media is a BIG part of why your favorite party has problems with all those groups listed above.

 

How do college educated voters react to attacks on NPR/PBS?  Depends upon whether they're of a libertarian bent or more satisified with authoritarianism.  Those with a libertarian bent don't necessarily see a reason for the government to be providing TV and radio and the beaurocracy's take on daily events when there are literally hundreds if not thousands of sources available to everyone.  (The media landscape has changed quite a bit since 1970.)  Of course, the authoritarians would like for the "dangerous" and "fake news" sources to be silenced so only approved "good" sources will be heard.  You know, like cancelling the voices of anyone who dared to say 46 was turning into a kumquat before our eyes as opposed to those heroic noble voices telling you not to believe your lying eyes and ears but to rather trust them as they saw him nearly daily and knew he was sharp as a tack.

 

This one will surely get the tired Quack X emoji.

 

😂

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

Anyone upset about Harvard funding being pulled and/or listen to NPR is typically not voting for a Republican anytime soon. 
 

The low propensity middle class voter loves the idea of pulling funding for Harvard and giving it to trade schools.. as Trump floated.  This is how you make some of them into reliable voters. 

It’s called populism for a reason. It hasn’t been a highly productive political stance historically 

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

This one will surely get the tired Quack X emoji.

 

😂

 

Well, guess he showed you.  He gave it the laugh emoji instead of the x.

 

🙄

[nedboy7]

On 5/26/2025 at 6:29 AM, Doc said:

 

LOL!  You don't want us to post a "This is what you voted for" with Biden and Harris clips.  It wouldn't end well for you.

 

 

What is authoritarian?  O more precisely, more authoritarian than his predecessors?

I mean that’s a totally clueless comment.  Countless examples. Here is the latest one. 
 

https://democracy21.org/news/press-releases/house-gop-power-grab-to-restrict-enforcement-of-contempt-citations

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

9 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

Well, guess he showed you.  He gave it the laugh emoji instead of the x.

 

🙄

No one can show him anything. He’s staring at a dank, dark cellar wall. 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

The real question - does anyone actually care what affluent, college educated voters think about NPR/PBS? It’s a rhetorical question. 

It's definitely an issue that will drive me to the polls. 

[Doc Brown]

35 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

I mean that’s a totally clueless comment.  Countless examples. Here is the latest one. 
 

https://democracy21.org/news/press-releases/house-gop-power-grab-to-restrict-enforcement-of-contempt-citations

 

They actually have a "TrumpWatch" section on the site.  🤣🤣🤣  Kudos to them for recognizing its targeted audience.

[Homelander]

This is what they voted for....

 

 

[nedboy7]

32 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

They actually have a "TrumpWatch" section on the site.  🤣🤣🤣  Kudos to them for recognizing its targeted audience.

 

Now go read FoxNews or Breitbart and tell me that ***** isn't written for an idiotic cult with zero critical thinking skills.  😜

Glad that's what you got out of it. 

 

 

Trump Pardoned Tax Cheat After Mother Attended $1 Million Dinner

Paul Walczak’s pardon application cited his mother’s support for the president, including raising millions of dollars and a connection to a plot to publicize a Biden family diary.

 

Edited 9 hours ago by nedboy7

[JFKjr]

3 hours ago, LDD said:

 

So, I guess it would be the fight against that type of ignorance that educators seek to overcome.  That idea is nothing more than a line from political theatre.  Harvard and Trade Schools perform two completely separate purposes with neither being more or less important than the other in the end game.  We need both desperately and to rob one to feed another is a f-in joke.  

 

The only people not concerned with Harvard's research funding being pulled don't understand how Harvard's research benefits their life.  It's not some club.  These are some of the most serious academics, laboratories and think tanks on the planet and they serve our country...ours.  Trump's little hissy fit only strengthens and emboldens our enemies.  

 

Harvard's research will continue regardless. Harvard has the largest endowment of ANY university in the U.S.

 

If they're getting significant government funding that money is better spent on trade schools and the state university systems. University systems which ALSO "do research," by the way.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 minutes ago, JFKjr said:

 

Harvard's research will continue regardless. Harvard has the largest endowment of ANY university in the U.S.

Ever wondered why they do?