billsfan_34 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 9:19 PM, Savage said: I agree. I didn’t say he was a great player, just a good, sound tackler. Every player on the team has a couple of shortcomings. Expand Unable to shed blocks isn’t a great one to have. He wasn’t terrible though. Quote
Savage Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 9:44 PM, Meatloaf63 said: Unfortunately most of his tackles are jumping on the pile of an already downed player. Expand That was Ray Lewis. credited with many more tackles than he ever made. Quote
Meatloaf63 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 11:49 PM, Savage said: That was Ray Lewis. credited with many more tackles than he ever made. Expand I built a restaurant for Ray Lewis in the Baltimore harbor like 20 years ago. I have to admit he was intimidating to meet in person. But he talked as gentle as Michael Jackson, very strange. 1 Quote
Savage Posted October 16, 2024 Author Posted October 16, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 11:51 PM, Meatloaf63 said: I built a restaurant for Ray Lewis in the Baltimore harbor like 20 years ago. I have to admit he was intimidating to meet in person. But he talked as gentle as Michael Jackson, very strange. Expand Obviously, the project came in on budget. Quote
Maine-iac Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 In this defense mental mistakes will kill you much faster than not being a track star. That is why despite his size and speed Bishop is more of a liability than Hamlin and thus Hamlin is starting. 1 Quote
Meatloaf63 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 11:55 PM, Savage said: Obviously, the project came in on budget. Expand For what my boss paid me it wasn’t hard to do🤦♂️ His personal assistant came to the site every day to check progress, only slightly unnerving. Quote
Savage Posted October 17, 2024 Author Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 12:08 AM, Meatloaf63 said: For what my boss paid me it wasn’t hard to do🤦♂️ His personal assistant came to the site every day to check progress, only slightly unnerving. Expand Well, your here to tell the tale. others haven’t been so lucky. 2 Quote
Meatloaf63 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 12:11 AM, Savage said: Well, your here to tell the tale. others haven’t been so lucky. Expand True, very true… Quote
billsbackto81 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 6:31 PM, Nester said: He single handedly destroyed the Dolphins Season, our biggest threat for the Division title. He should get extended on that basis alone. Expand It was Tua! A roll of bathroom tissue thrown at his head could've produced the same result. On 10/16/2024 at 6:52 PM, <bills4life> said: Can’t disagree with you more. Especially as a serviceable starter. Way too slow, poor angles, and poor coverage skills. Dude shouldn’t even be on the roster let alone starting. Expand Little harsh. Far from high caliber starter, but a decent depth player who can spot start in a pinch. A lot like I viewed Levi Wallace. Quote
Bookie Man Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 Best we have for now, I suppose... what's the deal with Mike Edwards? Quote
AKC Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/16/2024 at 11:49 PM, Savage said: That was Ray Lewis. credited with many more tackles than he ever made. Expand In '99 we played the Ravens on the road, and it was a close game we won. Sam Gash pounded Lewis until as the game got to the end Lewis was dodging Gash. Sam was so great at hitting his target and Lewis, while having a good day statistically, learned that being the first in the hole when Gash was lead blocking was going to leave him in the ice for a lot longer than he bargained for. Seeing Lewis's eyes in the 4th quarter of that game are a favorite memory! Quote
The Cincinnati Kid Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 6:18 PM, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. Expand Do you know why smaller defensive players don’t wrap up most of the time? It is because they would dislocate their shoulders every tackle. They practice tackles the way you see them tackle in games. It’s not that “mOsT nFl PlAyErS fOrGoT hOw To TaCkLe.” It’s because they actually do it the safest way possible. Tell me you watched football before the merger without telling me you watched before the merger. Quote
Starr Almighty Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 6:26 PM, Captain Hindsight said: He's been fine all year. I don't really understand the frustration with him. We were spolied with two all pros for 7 years. Hamlin has been fine and so has Rapp Expand Go watch the angle he took on that Jet run that Rapp saved from being a TD. While you are watching that go watch him take another bad angle covering Wilson over the middle and giving up another huge play. Then go watch the Hail Mary. Mind you that was just in one game and I can point out many more in that game alone. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 6:18 PM, Savage said: Most say he’s slow, weak and small, but, fundamentally, he’s a damn good tackler. He actually wraps up the ball carrier at the knees. That is a lost skill / art in the game of football today. He won’t lay any big licks on anyone, but he’ll make his tackles. I give him props for that. Most NFL players have no idea how tackle, or have forgotten how to tackle. Expand Hamlin is as mid as it gets. He’s not a total liability on the field, but he’s definitely not an impact player either. It’s very impressive that he made a full recovery and is back starting on an NFL team. It’s actually an incredible story and Hamlin is a great role model for people to follow. The Bills def need an upgrade at that position at some point, but I’m okay w/ Hamlin as long as he does his job on the field and doesn’t blow coverages. Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 12:03 AM, Maine-iac said: In this defense mental mistakes will kill you much faster than not being a track star. That is why despite his size and speed Bishop is more of a liability than Hamlin and thus Hamlin is starting. Expand This is true, but the Bills after 7 years of barely giving up explosives on defense are suddenly giving them at a concerningly high rate. That is a reflection of the safety play. I agree Bishop was part of that, he struggled massively against the Texans and both their touchdowns were on him. But it isn't like the others are holding it down either. We don't have a single true starting level safety on the roster. I suspected that before the season and, unlike last year at linebacker when I suspected that Milano was our only starting level player and then Bernard (and in the end Dodson) got on the field and actually showed they could play, it is how it has played out so far. Rapp is that guy who you love as your 3rd safety who can play in some dime looks but who has to be at his peak to get by as a starter and he is the best of the bunch. I think given that the argument for get Bishop on the field and let him take some lumps is a strong one. But I suspect for the exact reason you state that isn't what they will do. Quote
Savage Posted November 13, 2024 Author Posted November 13, 2024 On 10/15/2024 at 11:04 PM, klos63 said: Lost skill? What are you talking about? Expand Ever play football? do you know how to tackle? On 10/15/2024 at 11:04 PM, klos63 said: Lost skill? What are you talking about? Expand Ever play football? do you know how to tackle? On 10/15/2024 at 11:04 PM, klos63 said: Lost skill? What are you talking about? Expand Ever play football? do you know how to tackle? Quote
Savage Posted November 14, 2024 Author Posted November 14, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 5:34 AM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Hamlin is as mid as it gets. He’s not a total liability on the field, but he’s definitely not an impact player either. It’s very impressive that he made a full recovery and is back starting on an NFL team. It’s actually an incredible story and Hamlin is a great role model for people to follow. The Bills def need an upgrade at that position at some point, but I’m okay w/ Hamlin as long as he does his job on the field and doesn’t blow coverages. Expand Agreed Quote
Savage Posted November 14, 2024 Author Posted November 14, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 2:04 AM, The Cincinnati Kid said: Do you know why smaller defensive players don’t wrap up most of the time? It is because they would dislocate their shoulders every tackle. They practice tackles the way you see them tackle in games. It’s not that “mOsT nFl PlAyErS fOrGoT hOw To TaCkLe.” It’s because they actually do it the safest way possible. Tell me you watched football before the merger without telling me you watched before the merger. Expand They don’t practice tackling the way you see it. they don’t know how to tackle now. Watch a couple of games, and YouTube videos, and let me know son. Quote
The Cincinnati Kid Posted November 14, 2024 Posted November 14, 2024 (edited) On 11/14/2024 at 12:06 AM, Savage said: They don’t practice tackling the way you see it. they don’t know how to tackle now. Watch a couple of games, and YouTube videos, and let me know son. Expand Send me some links of DB tackling Teach/Drill Tape. Would love to be proven wrong. My source is Kerry Coombs. His drill tape is in my collection in my office. Lemme know. If the guys playing on Sundays don’t know how to tackle, where are the players who do? My goodness. What a take. Edited November 14, 2024 by The Cincinnati Kid Quote
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