krf139 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) Lost in the Diggs news of this week is how wrong the Buffalo media have been about Diggs over the past year: - WGR hosts routinely dismissed callers who raised Diggs' behavior as an issue - Team beat reporters took pride in pushing back on the national narrative that Diggs was an issue and could be traded. They would boast about how they're local, on the ground and more tuned into the team. They'd highlight the cap hit and claim that anyone from the national media who suggested a Diggs trade didn't understand the cap implications. They loved going on national shows to tell everyone how much they know about the team and how the national narrative about a Diggs issue was wrong and potential trade wasn't happening. Matt Bove even tweeted that Diggs wasn't getting traded literally less than 10 minutes before the trade was reported - Tim Graham (who I previously thought was one of the few good ones) is now reporting how Allen snapped at Diggs after the Week 1 loss to the Jets. It's such a disservice and somewhat disingenuous to withhold information like this until he's gone. It highlights how many of these folks care far more about maintaining relationships/access to the players than holistically reporting what's going on with the team - especially a week 1 incident involving a player who was the talk of the offseason It's unfortunate we don't have media members covering the team who we can trust. I can only wonder what will continue to come out about the Diggs situation, or what would come out about McDermott re: 13 seconds if he gets fired. Edited April 5 by krf139 3 2 6 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 7 minutes ago, krf139 said: Lost in the Diggs news of this week is how wrong the Buffalo media have been about Diggs over the past year: - WGR hosts routinely dismissed callers who raised Diggs' behavior as an issue - Team beat reporters took pride in pushing back on the national narrative that Diggs was an issue and could be traded. They would boast about how they're local, on the ground and more tuned into the team. They'd highlight the cap hit and claim that anyone from the national media who suggested a Diggs trade didn't understand the cap implications. They loved going on national shows to tell everyone how much they know about the team and how the national narrative about a Diggs issue was wrong and potential trade wasn't happening. Matt Bove even tweeted that Diggs wasn't getting traded literally less than 10 minutes before the trade was reported - Tim Graham (who I previously thought was one of the few good ones) is now reporting how Allen snapped at Diggs after the Week 1 loss to the Jets. It's such a disservice and somewhat disingenuous to withhold information like this until he's gone. It highlights how many of these folks care far more about maintaining relationships/access to the players than holistically reporting what's going on with the team - especially a week 1 incident involving a player who was the talk of the offseason It's unfortunate we don't have media members covering the team who we can trust. I can only wonder what will continue to come out about the Diggs situation, or what would come out about McDermott re: 13 seconds if he gets fired. Diggs was voted a team captain.. never said one bad thing about the City of Buffalo or the organization Came to practice every day and played his butt off for 4 years The media drummed up his diva status and helped drive him out of town... There's been nothing but smear pieces about him for the last 2 years The national media and pundits drove him out of Buffalo by highlighting this narrative day in and day out for 2 years He certainly never went to the podium and said I want to leave or anything bad about Buffalo.. never not once What he was was hyper competitive 5 1 3 5 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Diggs was voted a team captain.. never said one bad thing about the City of Buffalo or the organization Came to practice every day and played his butt off for 4 years The media drummed up his diva status and helped drive him out of town... There's been nothing but smear pieces about him for the last 2 years The national media and pundits drove him out of Buffalo by highlighting this narrative day in and day out for 2 years He certainly never went to the podium and said I want to leave or anything bad about Buffalo.. never not once What he was was hyper competitive Just take the L 3 1 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Diggs was voted a team captain.. never said one bad thing about the City of Buffalo or the organization Came to practice every day and played his butt off for 4 years The media drummed up his diva status and helped drive him out of town... There's been nothing but smear pieces about him for the last 2 years The national media and pundits drove him out of Buffalo by highlighting this narrative day in and day out for 2 years He certainly never went to the podium and said I want to leave or anything bad about Buffalo.. never not once What he was was hyper competitive we just shipped him out for a song to a team we are playing next year lol they couldnt get rid of him fast enough...i dont think the media drove them to it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Just now, julian said: Just take the L Are you a child? What L am I taking? People are pissing on the best wide receiver in Buffalo in the last 20 years... The guy who 100% helped Josh Allen Nobody was calling him a bum when he was on wheaty boxes with Josh Allen and they were best friends... 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Are you a child? What L am I taking? People are pissing on the best wide receiver in Buffalo in the last 20 years... The guy who 100% helped Josh Allen Nobody was calling him a bum when he was on wheaty boxes with Josh Allen and they were best friends... regardless of what people think about Diggs, it’s a fact that the Buffalo media were wrong (when they took pride in thinking they knew more than national folks). I view it as an issue that we don’t have media we can trust 2 1 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: we just shipped him out for a song to a team we are playing next year lol they couldnt get rid of him fast enough...i dont think the media drove them to it Nobody hired Colin Kaepernick in the last 10 years because the media sensation He's good enough to be a top 90 quarterback in the NFL.. nobody's taking him because the media circus is too big 100% the media has been drumming this up for 2 years nonstop... Ever since his extension... Everyday it's diggs to Dallas... Or he's a diva ... He's on the trade block etc This is been happening for 2 years.. even while him and Josh were still best friends... They've never let diggs just be a football player.. he's always been treated as a celebrity with Tmz gossip Nobody wants to deal with that 24 7 Edited April 5 by Buffalo716 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Nobody hired Colin Kaepernick in the last 10 years because the media sensation He's good enough to be a top 90 quarterback in the NFL.. nobody's taking him because the media circus is too big 100% the media has been drumming this up for 2 years nonstop... Everyday it's diggs to Dallas... Or he's a diva ... He's on the trade block etc This is been happening for 2 years.. even while him and Josh were still best friends They've never let diggs just be a football player.. he's always been treated as a celebrity with Tmz gossip Nobody wants to deal with that 24 7 i see zero parallels between Kaepernick and Diggs other than they both play football Diggs got what he wanted. at some point we have got to stop pretending this was some conspiracy to make him look like the bad guy. he 100% orchestrated this once he decided he didn't want to be in Buffalo anymore. very obvious, no need to pretend otherwise 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 13 minutes ago, krf139 said: Lost in the Diggs news of this week is how wrong the Buffalo media have been about Diggs over the past year: - WGR hosts routinely dismissed callers who raised Diggs' behavior as an issue - Team beat reporters took pride in pushing back on the national narrative that Diggs was an issue and could be traded. They would boast about how they're local, on the ground and more tuned into the team. They'd highlight the cap hit and claim that anyone from the national media who suggested a Diggs trade didn't understand the cap implications. They loved going on national shows to tell everyone how much they know about the team and how the national narrative about a Diggs issue was wrong and potential trade wasn't happening. Matt Bove even tweeted that Diggs wasn't getting traded literally less than 10 minutes before the trade was reported - Tim Graham (who I previously thought was one of the few good ones) is now reporting how Allen snapped at Diggs after the Week 1 loss to the Jets. It's such a disservice and somewhat disingenuous to withhold information like this until he's gone. It highlights how many of these folks care far more about maintaining relationships/access to the players than holistically reporting what's going on with the team - especially a week 1 incident involving a player who was the talk of the offseason It's unfortunate we don't have media members covering the team who we can trust. I can only wonder what will continue to come out about the Diggs situation, or what would come out about McDermott re: 13 seconds if he gets fired. It's really in their best interest to NOT report every little thing they see or hear. Yes, maintaining a positive relationship with the team and staff is paramount to their job...but also they have to show some kind of decorum with keeping private moments private and maintaining the good faith and relationships with players as well. That's how they find out a good amount of what they do. Once that trust is violated they won't have any information anymore. Being a reporter is all about building relationships and trust. Not blindly blabbing. In the case you mentioned....what good would it have done to report it? Other than become something else to gossip about on a message board? Graham even stated he doesn't even know what Diggs said that set Josh off. So he didn't even have the full story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: i see zero parallels between Kaepernick and Diggs other than they both play football Diggs got what he wanted. at some point we have got to stop pretending this was some conspiracy to make him look like the bad guy. he 100% orchestrated this once he decided he didn't want to be in Buffalo anymore. very obvious, no need to pretend otherwise Pissing on a guy who has never publicly said anything bad about the city or organization The guy who was on the cover of magazines and cereal boxes with Josh Allen as best friends of the NFL... The guy who 100% gave Josh Allen more confidence and helped him become an NFL superstar I'm not going to say one bad thing about diggs.. because he busted his butt here for 4 years every game The players voted him a captain... And he publicly did not trash Buffalo Yes I think the media certainly did drum this up over years even if there was some smoke I think they certainly enhanced it... Gaslighting Edited April 5 by Buffalo716 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 12 minutes ago, julian said: Just take the L The guy gives you a careful refutation of all your points and this is your response? WEAK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Nobody was calling him a bum when he was on wheaty boxes with Josh Allen and they were best friends... But a lot were after the last 10 horrendous games of his Buffalo career. Edited April 5 by Beast 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Pissing on a guy who has never publicly said anything bad about the city or organization The guy who was on the cover of magazines and cereal boxes with Josh Allen as best friends of the NFL... The guy who 100% gave Josh Allen more confidence and helped him become an NFL superstar I'm not going to say one bad thing about diggs.. because he busted his butt here for 4 years every game The players voted him a captain... And he publicly did not trash Buffalo Yes I think the media certainly did drum this up over years even if there was some smoke I think they certainly enhanced it the Stefon Diggs you are talking about is the one he projects the one I'm talking about is the actual guy if this isn't clear by now it never will be 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 18 minutes ago, krf139 said: Tim Graham (who I previously thought was one of the few good ones) is now reporting how Allen snapped at Diggs after the Week 1 loss to the Jets. It's such a disservice and somewhat disingenuous to withhold information like this until he's gone. To be fair every reporter withholds certain information that they learn. If they didn't, they'd lose access to the team. The people who should feel a bit sheepish right now are those on here and in the Bills media world who tried to claim that 1) Diggs has never been a distraction and the media drove all of the controversy, and/or 2) Diggs' contract made it "impossible" for him to be traded. On the first point, a lot of people deliberately buried their heads in the sand and came up with various excuses to explain away Diggs' obviously distracting behavior. On the second point, I hope people have learned by now that NOTHING is impossible in the NFL. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: It's really in their best interest to NOT report every little thing they see or hear. Yes, maintaining a positive relationship with the team and staff is paramount to their job...but also they have to show some kind of decorum with keeping private moments private and maintaining the good faith and relationships with players as well. That's how they find out a good amount of what they do. Once that trust is violated they won't have any information anymore. Being a reporter is all about building relationships and trust. Not blindly blabbing. In the case you mentioned....what good would it have done to report it? Other than become something else to gossip about on a message board? Graham even stated he doesn't even know what Diggs said that set Josh off. So he didn't even have the full story. I don’t view Allen snapping at Diggs as a “little thing” considering the offseason drama, mandatory minicamp issue, etc. Graham says he wishes he reported it at the time, so maybe this will be a lesson for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 they sat on a few very large stories. one of the biggest i guess i will go ahead and share is that the team meeting that was said not to have happened did happen. it was in that meeting that the team decided and voted they wanted to oust Dorsey. they went to mcdermott with this request. another team meeting happened later but i know no details about it and it was not a full team meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Just now, HappyDays said: To be fair every reporter withholds certain information that they learn. If they didn't, they'd lose access to the team. The people who should feel a bit sheepish right now are those on here and in the Bills media world who tried to claim that 1) Diggs has never been a distraction and the media drove all of the controversy, and/or 2) Diggs' contract made it "impossible" for him to be traded. On the first point, a lot of people deliberately buried their heads in the sand and came up with various excuses to explain away Diggs' obviously distracting behavior. On the second point, I hope people have learned by now that NOTHING is impossible in the NFL. lol you'd think so but theyre doubling down it appears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: The guy gives you a careful refutation of all your points and this is your response? WEAK Sometimes you just have to except you were wrong and move along, continuing to argue the point is WEAK… and he didn’t refute any of my points lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) I also don’t believe for one second that the Bills would trade away Diggs without Allen’s blessing. They just wouldn’t. And Allen wouldn’t be saying to the Bills, “sure, Stefon and me are buddies. Do what my buddy wants.” No way. Josh wanted him out as bad as anyone. Maybe even orchestrated it behind the scenes for all we know. (Conspiracy theory) but make no mistake. Josh Allen and the Bills coaching staff and front office wanted Diggs gone. They couldn’t care less about the media. Edited April 5 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Pissing on a guy who has never publicly said anything bad about the city or organization He went on a media circuit for a couple weeks after the Bengals divisional loss and publicly criticized the team and our inability to get over the hump. This is why I never understood people that tried to hand wave away his behavior. It wasn't a secret, he was very open about his displeasure on multiple occasions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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