AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 4 Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Cugalabanza said: Obviously having gone to an Ivy League school does not automatically validate a person’s argument. Equally irrelevant: country of origin and having published a book. In any case, Ladapo doesn’t even have an argument. And he is not interested in the science at all. He has made it clear how he views this issue. He said this about vaccines: "Who am I to tell you what you should put in your body? What you put into your body is because of your relationship with your body and God.” The way covid was handled created this mess. Thanks government!
JFKjr Posted September 4 Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: You were programmed by FOX, Alex Jones, and all the other fun cast of characters to be afraid of the vaccine and snort ivermectin instead. You are unable to express any original thought beyond what you are ladled by Matt Walsh. Given the revolving door between the CDC, FDA and Big Pharma, it's interesting for you to think YOU haven't been programmed, not to mention outright lied to. No bigger lie than "safe and effective." Something I wouldn't have questioned myself prior to the Covid debacle.
JDHillFan Posted September 4 Posted September 4 3 hours ago, Roundybout said: You were programmed by FOX, Alex Jones, and all the other fun cast of characters to be afraid of the vaccine and snort ivermectin instead. You are unable to express any original thought beyond what you are ladled by Matt Walsh. Which part(s) of his post most upset you? I would very much like to hear which parts you believe to be untrue. You didn’t mention any of them as you went full drama queen. Here’s your chance. I strongly suspect you won’t take it.
Roundybout Posted September 4 Posted September 4 4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Hmmm. I read stories on Fox News on occasion. I have never read, listened to or thought about Alex Jones much beyond what I know about his reprehensible comments on the Sandy Hook massacre. “Fun cast of characters” reads as if you felt you were on a roll and then completely ran out of steam. I was vaccinated against COVID almost immediately, drove 80 miles to get the vaxx. I got my booster shot promptly, before the Biden admin changed the description of fully vaccinated to have at least one shot to make the numbers look better. Ironically my children thought I would be anti-vaxx, until I reminded them I had gotten the flu shot for many years before Covid. Other that that, I developed tinnitus not too long after getting vaccinated and have dealt with it since then. Could be old age, could be bad vaxx. Two young family members developed myocarditis after getting vaxxed, one ended up hospitalized. My only regret regret is pressuring one of my children into getting vaxxed based on the pressure of members of the scientific community. I don’t know anything about ivermectin, but it seems clear you considered it as an option. I couldn’t tell Matt Walsh from Matt Stafford. You, on the other hand, support and understand the emotion behind a lunatic gunning down a man calling down the street—-which basically puts you in the same category as any of the most fervent Alex Jones disciples, you just wear a different uniform. "You" as in MAGA.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 4 Posted September 4 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: "You" as in MAGA. Gotcha. It can get confusing, there isn't even a Y in MAGA. For clarity, I meant you as in you with respect to that psycopath who murdered the guy on the street.
Roundybout Posted September 4 Posted September 4 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Gotcha. It can get confusing, there isn't even a Y in MAGA. For clarity, I meant you as in you with respect to that psycopath who murdered the guy on the street. You mean the guy who is likely going free because he's not getting close to a fair trial?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 5 Posted September 5 26 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You mean the guy who is likely going free because he's not getting close to a fair trial? That was Donald Trump. I’m talking the lunatic who stalked another human being he didn’t like, waited for him to walk down the sidewalk and shot him dead. Luigi Mangione. The guy with the groupies like Charlie Manson had.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 5 Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: You mean the guy who is likely going free because he's not getting close to a fair trial? Premeditated murder= death Have a nice day.
Homelander Posted September 5 Posted September 5 15 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: This is the natural outcome of an out of control government during covid where for many the vaccine was mandated or else. For a friggin respiratory virus. Absolute insanity. So of course the pendulum is now swinging far in the other direction where people will choose not to take highly efficacious and safe vaccines. For covid focused protection was the way but play stupid games, win stupid prizes. With measles specifically the recent outbreaks are largely being driven by unvaccinated illegals btw. Oops Roundy. This isn’t about ‘out of control government’ - Trump was the freaking President. He could have led, but he sat on his hands. Meanwhile, FoxNews and every right-wing grifter spent years turning a public health measure into a profit-and-division scheme. MAGA ate it up, and now the country is paying for their manufactured stupidity. Play stupid games, win nuclear-level stupid prizes 1
pennstate10 Posted September 5 Posted September 5 19 hours ago, JFKjr said: Given the revolving door between the CDC, FDA and Big Pharma, it's interesting for you to think YOU haven't been programmed, not to mention outright lied to. No bigger lie than "safe and effective." Something I wouldn't have questioned myself prior to the Covid debacle. As usual, and par for the course from the entire Trump administration, this statement is filled with half truths and blatant lies. The data was not destroyed. The data was left out because it was not robust. Sample sizes were too small so the authors resorted to p hacking, and made new groups. That’s why good clinical trials describe the statistical analysis plan BEFORE commencing the study. Trump and his clown posse are destroying American health care research. A good number of details are in the addendum to this complaint. https://katzbanks.com/wp-content/uploads/Marrazzo-final-abb-redacted_Redacted.pdf 2 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted September 5 Posted September 5 The bogus vaccine-autism link thing just won't go away. There is still no reliable/unretracted study from anywhere that comes close to proving a causal relationship or even a strong correlation. Meanwhile, geneticists are making excellent progress. They are revealing what is no doubt an uncomfortable truth for parents of autistic children. https://medschool.ucla.edu/news-article/is-autism-genetic Autism is hereditary and therefore does run in families. A majority (around 80%) of autism cases can be linked to inherited genetic mutations. The remaining cases likely stem from non-inherited mutations. There’s no evidence that children can develop autism after early fetal development as a result of exposure to vaccines or postnatal toxins. “Everything known to cause autism occurs during early brain development,” says Dr. Geschwind. I understand the discomfort. In a way research is saying that the "fault" is in our own genetic material and not in identifying some kind of environmental (including childhood vaccines) cause. That is a difficult thing to come to terms with. But very often the truth is difficult. We only make things worse when we propose fake "solutions" like repealing school vaccine mandates so that we can have both autism and measles, or pertussis, or whatever. A hard truth is still hard. 1 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 6 Posted September 6 A surgeon general should concentrate on public health and science, not politics. Lapado has admitted that this is about politics: Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo said Friday that Florida’s move to end all school vaccine mandates is not “actually a scientific debate,” but rather about putting parents’ and children’s interests over the government. “This isn’t actually a scientific debate. This is about whether the parent’s interest should prevail over the sovereignty and the autonomy of their bodies and their children’s bodies, or whether the government should prevail. It’s that simple,” Ladapo said during his appearance on NewsNation’s show “Cuomo.”
Wolfgang Posted September 6 Posted September 6 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: A surgeon general should concentrate on public health and science, not politics. Lapado has admitted that this is about politics: Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo said Friday that Florida’s move to end all school vaccine mandates is not “actually a scientific debate,” but rather about putting parents’ and children’s interests over the government. “This isn’t actually a scientific debate. This is about whether the parent’s interest should prevail over the sovereignty and the autonomy of their bodies and their children’s bodies, or whether the government should prevail. It’s that simple,” Ladapo said during his appearance on NewsNation’s show “Cuomo.” Your endless crying makes my coffee taste so much better each morning... Thank you! 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 6 Posted September 6 41 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: A surgeon general should concentrate on public health and science, not politics. Lapado has admitted that this is about politics: Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo said Friday that Florida’s move to end all school vaccine mandates is not “actually a scientific debate,” but rather about putting parents’ and children’s interests over the government. “This isn’t actually a scientific debate. This is about whether the parent’s interest should prevail over the sovereignty and the autonomy of their bodies and their children’s bodies, or whether the government should prevail. It’s that simple,” Ladapo said during his appearance on NewsNation’s show “Cuomo.” This is some brilliance here. The government should have the right to demand that you take whatever healthcare professionals say you should for the greater good. I had my kids vaccinated against what I thought was needed and everyone should have the same right. The fact that you still won't admit forcing children to get the COVID shot was evil is mind boggling to me. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 6 Posted September 6 13 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: This is some brilliance here. The government should have the right to demand that you take whatever healthcare professionals say you should for the greater good. I had my kids vaccinated against what I thought was needed and everyone should have the same right. The fact that you still won't admit forcing children to get the COVID shot was evil is mind boggling to me. it's mind boggling because you have 3 brain cells and they cumulatively can only focus on your stupid beliefs and personal interests. we aren't talking about covid here but about measles vax which is not controversial at all. this maga doctor just admitted it. 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 6 Posted September 6 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: it's mind boggling because you have 3 brain cells and they cumulatively can only focus on your stupid beliefs and personal interests. we aren't talking about covid here but about measles vax which is not controversial at all. this maga doctor just admitted it. Did you actually read my post? I will recommend parents get their kids vaccinated but your side showed that you can not be trusted. Literally you hurt kids with no benefits for the kids.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 6 Posted September 6 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JFKjr said: He's lying. https://www.factcheck.org/2023/08/scicheck-factchecking-robert-f-kennedy-jr/ And contrary to Kennedy’s suggestion that drugs are more closely scrutinized for safety than vaccines, if anything, the opposite is true. “A higher standard of safety is generally expected of vaccines than of other medical interventions because, in contrast to most pharmaceutical products that are administered to ill persons for treatment purposes, vaccines are generally administered to healthy persons to prevent disease,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Pink Book, which is a guide to vaccines and vaccine-preventable diseases, explains. “Less tolerance of risk associated with vaccines requires close monitoring and timely assessment of vaccine adverse events to help distinguish true vaccine adverse reactions from coincidental unrelated events and to help maintain public confidence in vaccination,” the book continues. Edited September 6 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
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