LeviF Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: The American Dream is for anyone who wishes to be an American citizen. Simple. You obviously hate this, and therefore you are an enemy of American idealism. Been reading Marx lately? American idealism implies some competency and/or lack of malice in our government. One or both of those are currently wanting. And like I said. You think America is, at best, an economic zone or a proposition, rather than an actual nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 minute ago, LeviF said: American idealism implies some competency and/or lack of malice in our government. One or both of those are currently wanting. And like I said. You think America is, at best, an economic zone or a proposition, rather than an actual nation. Define “actual nation” then, and explain why migrants are incapable with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Define “actual nation” then, and explain why migrants are incapable with it We can just go with Oxford and now you tell me. What migrants share history, common descent, culture, or language with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Just now, LeviF said: We can just go with Oxford and now you tell me. What migrants share history, common descent, culture, or language with us? Migrants from Mexico and Latin America share an extraordinary amount of culture with the Southwest US. Derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Migrants from Mexico and Latin America share an extraordinary amount of culture with the Southwest US. Derp. Like what? Pray tell what culture do Venezuelans share with Arizonans? Mexicans are overwhelmingly catholic (strike one), often mestizo (strike two), and don’t share a language (strike three). Spicy food is not a culture. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 11 minutes ago, LeviF said: Like what? Pray tell what culture do Venezuelans share with Arizonans? Mexicans are overwhelmingly catholic (strike one), often mestizo (strike two), and don’t share a language (strike three). Spicy food is not a culture. What culture do Germans share with Irish? Or Polish with English? And yet, here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: What culture do Germans share with Irish? Or Polish with English? And yet, here we are. I'm not sure how dense you really are. Nobody, I mean nobody on this message board fears immigrants. There is a process, a legal process. Is it broken? Probably, but until that is fixed, no sane person wants tons of unvetted people coming over the border every day. Most are honest and hardworking, but not all. When you increase the overall numbers by a good amount, naturally the number of bad also increases. I want things in life too, sometimes you have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 10 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: I'm not sure how dense you really are. Nobody, I mean nobody on this message board fears immigrants. There is a process, a legal process. Is it broken? Probably, but until that is fixed, no sane person wants tons of unvetted people coming over the border every day. Most are honest and hardworking, but not all. When you increase the overall numbers by a good amount, naturally the number of bad also increases. I want things in life too, sometimes you have to wait. They don't care. They want the Dem votes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 8 hours ago, Roundybout said: Then give them healthcare to make sure they’re immunized 👍 Are you willing to pay more taxes to pay for that? How about we take care of our veterans and our homeless people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 What’s wrong w stupid people getting sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 They’re emptying out their prisons and sending them here. As well as potential terrorists who want to destroy this country more than the democrats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Westside said: They’re emptying out their prisons and sending them here. As well as potential terrorists who want to destroy this country more than the democrats. Who is “they” 5 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: I'm not sure how dense you really are. Nobody, I mean nobody on this message board fears immigrants. There is a process, a legal process. Is it broken? Probably, but until that is fixed, no sane person wants tons of unvetted people coming over the border every day. Most are honest and hardworking, but not all. When you increase the overall numbers by a good amount, naturally the number of bad also increases. I want things in life too, sometimes you have to wait. My response there was to the poster alleging that Venezuelan culture was incompatible with ours. But we’ve let in tons of different cultures! This hasn’t mattered before in the slightest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Westside said: They’re emptying out their prisons and sending them here. As well as potential terrorists who want to destroy this country more than the democrats. Yup. If I were a shithole 3rd world country, I'd send the dregs of society to where there's an open border. It would explain how these "economic refugees" somehow have the money to go thousands of miles away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/24/2024 at 7:53 AM, Doc said: Measles is the new Wuhan virus. Do you know for a doctor? You don’t seem to be into your history much Do you realize how many people have died from measles outbreak over the course of history there is a reason why we do basic vaccinations for our children Or I wouldn’t care this is going to hurt Republicans a lot more than it. Is anybody else that don’t believe in vaccines but in this case it’s involving children so I care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 16 hours ago, BillStime said: Trump told us it can wait until January 2025. The bill as presented doesn't do anything to stop people from entering illegally, does it? As far as I can tell it increases the number of legal immigrants by 13%, but seems to only speed up the process for illegals one way or the other. 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Do you know for a doctor? You don’t seem to be into your history much Do you realize how many people have died from measles outbreak over the course of history there is a reason why we do basic vaccinations for our children Or I wouldn’t care this is going to hurt Republicans a lot more than it. Is anybody else that don’t believe in vaccines but in this case it’s involving children so I care What do you do for a living, John? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 5 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: The bill as presented doesn't do anything to stop people from entering illegally, does it? As far as I can tell it increases the number of legal immigrants by 13%, but seems to only speed up the process for illegals one way or the other. What do you do for a living, John? He’s a janitor at a liberal arts “college”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: 17 hours ago, BillStime said: The bill as presented doesn't do anything to stop people from entering illegally, does it? Can you explain how you are going to stop someone from illegally entering? lol Did you happen to grow up near Lake Erie? Lake Ontario? Do you know how easy it is to get into Cananda or vice versa via our Lakes alone? I can't even count the number of times I have sailed or boated out of Erie Basin Marina and ended up at the Buffalo Canoe Club without issue. Or, taking our boat from the Lewiston Boat launch (near the old Riverside) and end up at Niagara on the Lake - without issue. Good luck man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Can you explain how you are going to stop someone from illegally entering? lol Did you happen to grow up near Lake Erie? Lake Ontario? Do you know how easy it is to get into Cananda or vice versa via our Lakes alone? I can't even count the number of times I have sailed or boated out of Erie Basin Marina and ended up at the Buffalo Canoe Club without issue. Or, taking our boat from the Lewiston Boat launch (near the old Riverside) and end up at Niagara on the Lake - without issue. Good luck man. So your solution is just to give up and just declare wide open borders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 20 hours ago, LeviF said: Mexicans are overwhelmingly catholic (strike one) Wow. please expound on why this characteristic is negative in your eyes. B man will be especially interested. hmmm..what hate groups are anti Catholic? 3 hours ago, BillStime said: Can you explain how you are going to stop someone from illegally entering? lol Did you happen to grow up near Lake Erie? Lake Ontario? Do you know how easy it is to get into Cananda or vice versa via our Lakes alone? I can't even count the number of times I have sailed or boated out of Erie Basin Marina and ended up at the Buffalo Canoe Club without issue. Or, taking our boat from the Lewiston Boat launch (near the old Riverside) and end up at Niagara on the Lake - without issue. Good luck man. or tubing to the Canadian side on the Niagara River effortlessly. Those were the days... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Wow. please expound on why this characteristic is negative in your eyes. B man will be especially interested. hmmm..what hate groups are anti Catholic? Reading is hard, huh? The post you quote is a rebuttal to the idea that the USA shares a culture with Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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