Roundybout Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: In a world populated with Tiberius and Dufus from Riverside this might be the most vapid post this board has ever seen. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽🤦🏽♀️ Debate me then! If this is the only reason migrants want to come here, why don't the Republicans take advantage of this and offer more amenities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: If this is the case, why don’t republicans offer free stuff to sway votes instead? I'm apolitical, but, to answer your question, because it's wrong. I believe that any truly elected politician that are true to their constituents know that hard working people aren't down with that kind of thing. To break it down, it's simply not fair. Not only that, they know that the constituent base realizes that they will have to work harder in order to pay for those programs and pay for those freebies. It's just not right. This is how the middle class is being dismantled and they are not happy about it. An example would be, I don't think it 's right for you to pay for someone else's kid to go to college. It's not fair to you and people are getting fed up, especially when it's taking food off of their table when times are getting tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Debate me then! If this is the only reason migrants want to come here, why don't the Republicans take advantage of this and offer more amenities? Offering more “amenities” as you call them is, in essence, socialism. While many on your side have been advocating for that, I’m quite certain it’s not what most Americans want for our country. You made more sense when you were advocating for elementary schools to stock reading materials on anal/oral. Edited February 3 by JDHillFan Spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 56 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Why do you assume that the migrants will only vote democrat when Hispanic voters increasingly vote conservative, evidenced by Miami-Dade County in Florida in the 2020 election? Illegals see that Dems are not only rolling out the red carpet but trying to allow them to remain in the US, where they can financially benefit. So they'll be far more likely to vote Dem. Values don't pay the bills. And those were legal citizens of the US who voted in MDC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precision Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 16 minutes ago, Doc said: Illegals see that Dems are not only rolling out the red carpet but trying to allow them to remain in the US, where they can financially benefit. So they'll be far more likely to vote Dem. Values don't pay the bills. And those were legal citizens of the US who voted in MDC. Why would migrants embrace the Democratic party, the party of welfare? You're kidding right? From the Brookings Institute.... Welfare Benefits for Non-citizens "Refugees and asylees are eligible for all welfare benefits for the first seven years they reside in the U.S." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 31 minutes ago, phypon said: I'm apolitical, but, to answer your question, because it's wrong. I believe that any truly elected politician that are true to their constituents know that hard working people aren't down with that kind of thing. To break it down, it's simply not fair. Not only that, they know that the constituent base realizes that they will have to work harder in order to pay for those programs and pay for those freebies. It's just not right. This is how the middle class is being dismantled and they are not happy about it. An example would be, I don't think it 's right for you to pay for someone else's kid to go to college. It's not fair to you and people are getting fed up, especially when it's taking food off of their table when times are getting tough. Then extend the programs, such as healthcare, to all Americans. I don't mind such programs because they ultimately benefit ME by providing a more robust and healthier country to live in. Just to stay on the healthcare point, our healthcare system is the most expensive on the planet yet it still leaves people out. A medicare for all type public option would actually SAVE us money. 26 minutes ago, Doc said: Illegals see that Dems are not only rolling out the red carpet but trying to allow them to remain in the US, where they can financially benefit. So they'll be far more likely to vote Dem. Values don't pay the bills. And those were legal citizens of the US who voted in MDC. They benefit, start businesses, have kids, pay taxes, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Then extend the programs, such as healthcare, to all Americans. I don't mind such programs because they ultimately benefit ME by providing a more robust and healthier country to live in. Just to stay on the healthcare point, our healthcare system is the most expensive on the planet yet it still leaves people out. A medicare for all type public option would actually SAVE us money. They benefit, start businesses, have kids, pay taxes, etc etc. I completely understand your premise. The healthcare system in this country is completely f'up. It's too focused on profits and disregards the individual, which is bad for the people of this country. The bolded part is, what I think, makes most people upset. We need to be able to take care of ourselves first before we offer those benefits to non-citizens. I don't think it's fair to offer those benefits to non-Americans when Americans like you and me may be struggling. When literally millions of people are getting benefits at our expense while there are over 600,000 homeless Americans in this country not getting the same level of benefits, it's going to rub people the wrong way. Let alone the neglect of the veterans of this county. It's like the old analogy of being on an airplane and something bad happens, you have to put on your oxygen mask before you can help other people, otherwise, you won't be able to help other people. You have to have the capacity to take care of your own first before you can take care of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 9 minutes ago, Roundybout said: They benefit, start businesses, have kids, pay taxes, etc etc. In most cases, they don't. But again, they'll vote Dem in the hope that they can stay in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Doc said: In most cases, they don't. But again, they'll vote Dem in the hope that they can stay in the country. Totally agree. I've worked on jobs with "people not from this country" (I'll just say it that way). They send the majority of their money back home as the USD is stronger than their home currency. Most don't start businesses and basically export their tax dollars to their home country essentially not contributing to the US economy. I understand why they do it, and I don't blame them, but they are not contributing to this country. It's just the way it is, and it's fact. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) I think roundyfuk.c should have a few "migrants" come into its home uninvited and squat. She can pay their rent. He can feed them. Zir can pay their bills. They (read non-binary roundyfuk.c) can pay their (read illegals) taxes. I'm sure it will all turn out as a net positive for Roundyfuk.c Edited February 3 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 21 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: What?????????¿???????? It must be highly educated or something. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 🎯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 Germany's MAGA like scum proposing to round up immigrants for deportation has people standing up to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 So, tell me again how Democrats are the party of compassion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 And how soon will they back on the street? Venezuela hunh? Released prisoners from there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 On 2/3/2024 at 2:28 PM, Tiberius said: Germany's MAGA like scum proposing to round up immigrants for deportation has people standing up to them Do you know, for certain, that’s the reason? The guy that responded to the video says “Demonstrations against Putin’s puppets”…But who are Putin’s puppets, and what does that have to do with Germany’s immigration policy? What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 On 11/17/2023 at 9:15 AM, Tiberius said: Even illegal immigration Makes our country stronger. Look at China telling women to have more babies. Workers shortages, inflation, aging population. Ya, we are the melting pot Grr just grr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 33 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Do you know, for certain, that’s the reason? The guy that responded to the video says “Demonstrations against Putin’s puppets”…But who are Putin’s puppets, and what does that have to do with Germany’s immigration policy? What am I missing? Putin rules the World, according to the Dems... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 12 minutes ago, US Egg said: I guess Trump shouldn't have killed the deal to help at the border. Sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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