Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: what does liberal even mean to you? people that want progress?? People mostly want progress but that word is intended in todays lexicon to create a false dichotomy. for example, capitalism a system ‘progressives’ oppose, has spawned the most progress for civilization and there is no close second. the polarization is todays liberal wants a government controlled by wealthy elites to legislate progress for them, speak progress into reality by decree and don’t realize it’s a empty but alluring promise to gain control. those opposed are looking to progress as individuals, families, businesses or entrepreneurs, intrinsically through achievements. Edited September 9, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 There's classic liberals like Bill Maher and Glenn Greenwald. These types are in very short supply these days. The majority of people on the "left" today are most definitely not classical liberals. They are woke leftists comprised of two types: A. A small group of elites and those with institutional power who are out in the open marxists. B. The larger group of useful idiots who cater to the above group without question or dissent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Took 45 seconds to find Palin a dance partner https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/watch-former-msnbc-personality-calls-for-economic-civil-war-with-red-states-wiley/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: one side is considering civil war. one side is not That idea is another fantasy which takes something one person said to suggest it applies to a wider audience of people. You guys learned that from Mao and Stalin and Bill Ayers. And logically why would the authoritarians in control want a civil war? Duh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Took 45 seconds to find Palin a dance partner https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/watch-former-msnbc-personality-calls-for-economic-civil-war-with-red-states-wiley/ He said "Economic civil war". Seems reasonable since so many Red states disproportionally take tax money... 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: And logically why would the authoritarians in control want a civil war? Duh. If trump wins he'll be against civil war cuz he'll be authoritarian. Who is our authoritarian leader now? A feeble old man that supports unions? And it's not one person saying it. Several MAGA congress critters have said it. Edited September 9, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) This week we also had Mike Huckabee saying that if Trump doesn’t win, bullets will be used in the future instead of ballots. With each suggestion of violence by these right wing idiots, it normalizes the idea inside the heads of lunatics. So the “tactics and methods of a dictator” is our legal system filled with Trump appointed judges who end up making decisions against Trump and former Trump associates who testify against him? Edited September 9, 2023 by Andy1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: or example, capitalism a system ‘progressives’ oppose, FALSE. stop right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: There's classic liberals like Bill Maher and Glenn Greenwald. These types are in very short supply these days. The majority of people on the "left" today are most definitely not classical liberals. They are woke leftists comprised of two types: A. A small group of elites and those with institutional power who are out in the open marxists. B. The larger group of useful idiots who cater to the above group without question or dissent. you forgot c: trump deranged idiots so whacked out they want to burn the country to the ground to destroy trump Edited September 9, 2023 by Unforgiven 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: you forgot c: trump deranged idiots so whacked out they want to burn the country to the ground to destroy trump In the useful idiot venn diagram the TDS patients are a smaller circle wholly inside the larger useful idiot subset. Quack, The King, billsfuk.c, tibtool et al. are certainly in the TDS group. Edited September 9, 2023 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: FALSE. stop right there. don’t tell me you buy into this oxymoron of progressive capitalism ? 😂 just another idealistic scam fabricated by the herders. the two schools of thought are diametrically opposed and incompatible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 10 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: what does liberal even mean to you? Communist.😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: capitalism a system ‘progressives’ oppose, has spawned the most progress for civilization and there is no close second. Most people would agree with the second part of your statement. However many people want capitalism to work better for people at the bottom of the economic ladder. Hence the popularity of the Rich Men North of Richmond. The Trump tariffs are anti free market capitalism. That doesn’t mean the people wanting change are anti capitalists. Edited September 9, 2023 by Andy1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Most people would agree with this. However many people want capitalism to work better for people at the bottom of the economic ladder. Hence the popularity of the Rich Men North of Richmond. The Trump tariffs are anti free market capitalism. That doesn’t mean the people wanting change are anti capitalists. All reasonable. And btw that rich men signer is now a rich man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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