Royale with Cheese Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 https://people.com/crime/lake-mead-five-bodies-found-four-months/ If this thing keeps drying up....how many more are they going to find? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) For the people who complain about people living along the coast in hurricane territory, this is another issue worth noting. We have millions of people moving to desert areas. We have taken the helicopter out of Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon a couple times. The pilot mentioned that humidity had roughly doubled with the development of golf courses and developments filled with mansions and their swimming pools. Humidity, after doubling, was still only about 6% on average. That is SIX PERCENT HUMIDITY! Know why? It’s a freakin’ DESERT! We came from Florida where 96% was common. I didn’t know 6% was even possible. The lake is mostly dirt at this point. The difference between what is “natural” and the green golf course communities surrounded by blue pools is absolutely stunning, and not in a good way. So, how long is this sustainable? When does the dust hit the fan? . Edited December 15, 2022 by Augie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, Augie said: For the people who complain about people living along the coast in hurricane territory, this is another issue worth noting. We have millions of people moving to desert areas. We have taken the helicopter out of Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon a couple times. The pilot mentioned that humidity had roughly doubled with the development of golf courses and developments filled with mansions and their swimming pools. Humidity, after doubling, was still only about 6% on average. That is SIX PERCENT HUMIDITY! Know why? It’s a freakin’ DESERT! We came from Florida where 96% was common. I didn’t know 6$ was even possible. The lake is mostly dirt at this point. The difference between what is “natural” and the green golf course communities surrounded by blue pools is absolutely stunning, and not in a good way. So, how long is this sustainable? When does the dust hit the fan? . All danger zones shouldn't be as heavily populated as they are. Unsustainable. At the very least, tie funding to these specific populations. People walked out of the Dust Bowls to these places... The coasts, mountains, deserts... They can walk back. OR....Impose an income tax in these places if they don't want to be controlled by the Fed purse strings. Gotta start making it a disincentive to live in the unsustainable places. They have been cooking the books with water sustainability in the SW since the start... It's finally catching up with then. Too much growth, unsustainable resources. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Augie said: When does the dust hit the fan? Instead of Okies, there’ll be Ari’s forced elsewhere? Who’d of thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Instead of Okies, there’ll be Ari’s forced elsewhere? Who’d of thought? Just think how welcoming States like California and Arizona were in the 1930s, even our own citizens: Now I guess with places like Lake Mead drying up, they gotta walk back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Amazing... Just imagine if States pulled that crap with signs like that today! People would lose whatever minds they have left... Especially if they applied it to ClimateChange refugees, citizen or not... I mean... It's over-populated... What's gonna happen to SW if Lake Mead gets to dead pool? Do they have a power plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Amazing... Just imagine if States pulled that crap with signs like that today! People would lose whatever minds they have left... Especially if they applied it to ClimateChange refugees, citizen or not... I mean... It's over-populated... What's gonna happen to SW if Lake Mead gets to dead pool? Do they have a power plan? Have to tread lightly, you’re not wrong or on a tangent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Good video! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 16 hours ago, Augie said: For the people who complain about people living along the coast in hurricane territory, this is another issue worth noting. We have millions of people moving to desert areas. We have taken the helicopter out of Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon a couple times. The pilot mentioned that humidity had roughly doubled with the development of golf courses and developments filled with mansions and their swimming pools. Humidity, after doubling, was still only about 6% on average. That is SIX PERCENT HUMIDITY! Know why? It’s a freakin’ DESERT! We came from Florida where 96% was common. I didn’t know 6% was even possible. The lake is mostly dirt at this point. The difference between what is “natural” and the green golf course communities surrounded by blue pools is absolutely stunning, and not in a good way. So, how long is this sustainable? When does the dust hit the fan? . Speaking of Florida, not that far from now, Miami is going to be under water. I'm not sure a lot of people understand that. When stuff like this starts going down, people will start to catch on, but not before. That's how this country works; we move forward only when we have to as a response to crises. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 12:02 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: Amazing... Just imagine if States pulled that crap with signs like that today! People would lose whatever minds they have left... Especially if they applied it to ClimateChange refugees, citizen or not... I mean... It's over-populated... What's gonna happen to SW if Lake Mead gets to dead pool? Do they have a power plan? Companies already do it. I applied for a job at M+T Bank in Buffalo and I was told - we are only hiring locally. I was aware of this but since I had family in area I used local mailing address and company I was working for at time did some (little) work in area so I figured I would at least get to interview stage but I was contacted and told local candidates only. I said I live in area for 20 years and how long did recent work experience need to be but the recruiter would not state it making it a fuzzy requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 18 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Speaking of Florida, not that far from now, Miami is going to be under water. I'm not sure a lot of people understand that. When stuff like this starts going down, people will start to catch on, but not before. That's how this country works; we move forward only when we have to as a response to crises. They'll just turn Miami into the Venice of the US. Not a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, LeGOATski said: They'll just turn Miami into the Venice of the US. Not a big deal. So it will frequently flood and always smell like *****. How quaint. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 As long as @mead107 does not go fishing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 California is rich and bordered by an Ocean. Why are they taking water from the desert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, unbillievable said: California is rich and bordered by an Ocean. Why are they taking water from the desert? Because the ocean is salty and that costs a lot of money for desalination... Rich don't get rich by spending money...😉😜 Anyway....They'd have to pump it up a ~1,000' to reach Lake Mead's elevation. You'd think that there would be a way to recapture spent hydro water. I suppose the energy balance to pump it back into pumped storage would be to great... ?? Edited December 17, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Because the ocean is salty and that costs a lot of money for desalination... Rich don't get rich by spending money...😉😜 Anyway....They'd have to pump it up a ~1,000' to reach Lake Mead's elevation. You'd think that there would be a way to recapture spent hydro water. I suppose the energy balance to pump it back into pumped storage would be to great... ?? It's not a real problem. Once the water levels get low enough where desalinating the ocean would be cheaper, the drought goes away. I'm just curious to see if they're willing to destroy their agriculture to appease the urban elites. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, unbillievable said: It's not a real problem. Once the water levels get low enough where desalinating the ocean would be cheaper, the drought goes away. I'm just curious to see if they're willing to destroy their agriculture to appease the urban elites. Well... The dams at Hoover/Glen Canyon are Federal. Fed $$$$. There should be a BigAg return to the Federal taxpayers throughout the country... Just like when the taxpayers in Duluth pay to rebuild South Florida after a hurricane. Send the beef and sugar North. That's what pays the bills. Economy. Edited December 17, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Because the ocean is salty and that costs a lot of money for desalination... Rich don't get rich by spending money...😉😜 Anyway....They'd have to pump it up a ~1,000' to reach Lake Mead's elevation. You'd think that there would be a way to recapture spent hydro water. I suppose the energy balance to pump it back into pumped storage would be to great... ?? There are ways of desalinating water but letting sun evaporate water and capturing it but California does not have the correct space with so much area used for businesses, homes and farmland and forests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: There are ways of desalinating water but letting sun evaporate water and capturing it but California does not have the correct space with so much area used for businesses, homes and farmland and forests. What's the environmental consequences of the left over salt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: What's the environmental consequences of the left over salt? My understanding is it is broken down and can be used by industry. I read article about it being used overseas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just now, Limeaid said: I read article about it being used overseas. Hope it ain't like our petcoke we ship to 3rd World countries. That's like their "crack cocaine" for all their energy needs and environmental destruction. How bad can salt trailings be for environment? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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