Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) On 1/9/2022 at 1:31 PM, SoCal Deek said: I disagree. You’re using the wrong measuring stick. If they aren’t going to sell out when the team has now repeatedly made the playoffs, was a preseason super bowl favorite and has a young franchise QB, then it’s clearly something else that’s making people stay home. It’s not the ticket prices. They’re the lowest in the league. I’m guessing it’s not the disappearance of the Jills. It’s the weather conditions. The goal of Ownership is to fill seats. The dome is the answer. No brainer. Expand The goal of the Buffalo Bills is to sell tickets And they still are in the top half in the NFL of tickets sold If They were selling 30-40,000 tickets a dome might make sense financially.. but they're selling 67,000 tickets.. a few thousand people not showing up in the corners is normal That's normal across the NFL and those couple thousand tickets aren't enough to bring a dome.. thing is the revenue isn't much in ticket sales these days A few thousand more butts in the seats isn't financially enough of a gap to build the dome The bills average tickets sold is over 68,000 this season ... Upper and lower bowl hold 69,000 .. 2k in suites Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote
Einstein Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 7:44 PM, Buffalo716 said: If They were selling 30-40,000 tickets a dome might make sense financially.. but they're selling 67,000 tickets.. a few thousand people not showing up in the corners is normal Expand That’s not normal. Corners are full in warm months. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) On 1/9/2022 at 8:16 PM, Einstein said: That’s not normal. Corners are full in warm months. Expand My point.. the corners are not full in most cold cities at the end of the year But the tickets are still sold in buffalo The bills sell the tickets, it's not like they're not sold.. if they were only selling 40,000 tickets it would be a problem Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote
Einstein Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 8:20 PM, Buffalo716 said: My point.. the corners are not full in most cold cities at the end of the year But the tickets are still sold The bills sell the tickets it's not like they're not sold Expand I don’t know where you get this idea of the corners not being full in cold stadiums. Im watching the Ravens game and their corners are packed. Patriot games have packed corners too. I guess you could say the Jets corners aren’t full, but that’s also because they suck. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) On 1/9/2022 at 8:21 PM, Einstein said: I don’t know where you get this idea of the corners not being full in cold stadiums. Im watching the Ravens game and their corners are packed. Patriot games have packed corners too. I guess you could say the Jets corners aren’t full, but that’s also because they suck. Expand Green Bay only has 95% attendance according to the NFL .. Giants 90© , jets 87%... Pitt 87%.. Cincinnati 92% They Sell their tickets but they have a few thousand people not show up every day according to the NFL Bills are right there at 95% Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote
Einstein Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 8:25 PM, Buffalo716 said: Green Bay only has 95% attendance according to the NFL .. Giants 90© , jets 87%... Pitt 87%.. Cincinnati 92% They Sell their tickets but they have a few thousand people not show up every day according to the NFL Bills are right there at 95% Expand You can’t look at whole year stats - those include warm games. For example - Bills/Miami in October when it was still somewhat warm, had nearly 98% attendance. Last week against Atlanta, when it was cold, was barely over 90%. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) On 1/9/2022 at 8:34 PM, Einstein said: You can’t look at whole year stats - those include warm games. For example - Bills/Miami in October when it was still somewhat warm, had nearly 98% attendance. Last week against Atlanta, when it was cold, was barely over 90%. Expand 64,948 attendance There's only 69,000 seats in the bowls.. That's a couple thousand people and that's not a big enough reason to build a dome.. 49,000 attendance would be scary if that was happening consistently 65,000 is not a bad crowd Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote
Einstein Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 8:40 PM, Buffalo716 said: 64,948 attendance There's only 69,000 seats in the bowls.. That's a couple thousand people and that's not a big enough reason to build a dome.. 49,000 attendance would be scary if that was happening consistently 65,000 is not a bad crowd Expand Completely disagree. There are over 71k seats. They barely broke 90%. PS, Packers had 97% for a 18 degree game against the Vikings last week. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) On 1/9/2022 at 8:48 PM, Einstein said: Completely disagree. There are over 71k seats. They barely broke 90%. PS, Packers had 97% for a 18 degree game against the Vikings last week. Expand The Packers are sitting at the same percentage as the bills basically It's the only thing you could judge it on And there are 69,000 seats in the bowls and 2000 suites So put a thousand people in the suites.. putting 63948 in the bowl.. 5 k off full Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote
Einstein Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 8:50 PM, Buffalo716 said: The Packers are sitting at the same percentage as the bills basically It's the only thing you could judge it on And there are 69,000 seats in the bowls and 2000 suites So put a thousand people in the suites.. putting 63948 in the bowl.. 5 k off full Expand Again, you’re mixing warm game stats and cold game stats. Cant do that. Bills are 97+% in warm games and barely above 90% in cold games. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 9:05 PM, Einstein said: Again, you’re mixing warm game stats and cold game stats. Cant do that. Bills are 97+% in warm games and barely above 90% in cold games. Expand I don't think that difference is big enough to build a dome If the bills were at 75 or 80% maybe Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 Hopefully the new stadium will block the wind. Quote
Saxum Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 Original stadium was blocking wind but due to some problems the stadium needed to be rotated which caused current issues. I think the Bills could have put up an outside wall to reduce the issue but they treated it as "home field advantage" that their players could adjust to. Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 11:26 PM, Limeaid said: Original stadium was blocking wind but due to some problems the stadium needed to be rotated which caused current issues. I think the Bills could have put up an outside wall to reduce the issue but they treated it as "home field advantage" that their players could adjust to. Expand That has proven false Quote
BillnutinHouston Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 2:28 PM, HamptonBillsfan said: Just curious, did government decision makers poll Buffalo and Suburban residents as to their preference regarding a dome. This is small market thinking at its best. Deny western NY a new stadium for decades opting in favor of refurbishment, and then go cheap in the most horrific weather location in the country. Did they consider the corporate preferences considering their boxes will represent a good % of revenue. This team, with an elite QB, and great receivers, along with a defense with speed would benefit from perfect conditions. Fans would flock to a state of the art, ultramodern retractable roof stadium. Speaking for myself, coming from LI, I would make a family tradition out of seeing a high leverage Dec game or playoff, an annual. Expand Makes no sense to poll residents who don't go to games. The Bills did poll season ticket holders, in other words, those whose opinions matter. 1 Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Why so territorial? How do you know these poor timid souls wouldn't love to go to a game in Dec,or Jan in perfect conditions? These people who haven't gone as yet, still pay taxes earmarked for the new stadium. 2 Quote
purple haze Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 4:05 PM, HamptonBillsfan said: Understood,but couldn't the same be said for the games here in January if there's a lake effect snowstorm. I have lived in Arizona, and most games from October's on are just fine. Same situation in LA and Vegas. Expand You can dress for the cold. Nothing at all you can do about the heat. Butt naked you’d still be hot. Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 3:59 AM, purple haze said: You can dress for the cold. Nothing at all you can do about the heat. Butt naked you’d still be hot. Expand Have you ever gone to a game in a dome? Bills fans would blow the roof off. The noise would be impossible for a road team to deal with. Quote
Jrb1979 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 8:50 PM, Buffalo716 said: The Packers are sitting at the same percentage as the bills basically It's the only thing you could judge it on And there are 69,000 seats in the bowls and 2000 suites So put a thousand people in the suites.. putting 63948 in the bowl.. 5 k off full Expand That's all well and good with what the ticket prices are today. Will the stadium be full when the new stadium comes and tickets are much higher in price? There is no way they stay in the bottom quarter of teams in terms of ticket price. The days of tickets costing less then $100 are over. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/10/2022 at 4:22 AM, Jrb1979 said: That's all well and good with what the ticket prices are today. Will the stadium be full when the new stadium comes and tickets are much higher in price? There is no way they stay in the bottom quarter of teams in terms of ticket price. The days of tickets costing less then $100 are over. Expand It's going to be 60,000 capacity stadium Which seems to fit perfectly with how many come weekly Build it for increased noise and our 60,000 will sound like lunatics Quote
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