taterhill Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 classic TBD...turning a nice feel good story into a political pissing match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 classic TBD...turning a nice feel good story into a political pissing match 326019[/snapback] Yeah tell me about, I'm sorry I posted the news link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Yes because we all know comatose "brain-dead" people can NEVER be revived, right? 325796[/snapback] I'm surprised Joe, you usually make very reasonable arguments and back them up with facts. Brain dead people can never be revived, correct. Shiavo wasn't brain dead, and comatose is not a synonym for brain death. RTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 classic TBD...turning a nice feel good story into a political pissing match 326019[/snapback] Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Wait until he finds out what happened to the Twin Towers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Wait until he finds out what happened to the Twin Towers! 326082[/snapback] and No Goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 At least nothing much has changed with the Erie County Government in the past 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I went to high school with Donnie Herbert. He was a good football player and a tough kid. I didn't know him well - he was a year or two ahead of me, but my guess is that he was definitely a Bills fan. Actually, his family has had similar battles as the Schiavos and there have been big stories about it in the News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 he has 4 sons they where 7- 14- 16- and 17 when it happened dec 29 1995. first thing he said was that he wanted to talk to his wife . he has been getting physical therapy 2.5 months after the accident but was un able to communicate. nurses say they herd him start talking sat . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 People think that when a person comes out of a coma, it's like on TV where they are normal immediately. It just means he is not unconscious. As the post above states he has to have Rehab and finally talked after 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 People think that when a person comes out of a coma, it's like on TV where they are normal immediately. It just means he is not unconscious. As the post above states he has to have Rehab and finally talked after 2 months. 326242[/snapback] he has been in rehab for over 9 years he could not talk that just started he did know some peoples names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodBye Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 WBEN: Buffalo Firefighter Awakes After 10 Year Coma EDIT: I believe the miracle they were looking for to help with Father Baker's canonization has been found. 325784[/snapback] Great news! Miracles do happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Gant Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 He isn't out of the woods yet, there is some trauma to come with the things he is going to learn: OJ walked? Clinton did what? George Bush got re-elected? The Son? Ratzinger's Pope? Seriously though, what a great story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Different injury. Being comatose, even for such a huge length of time, is an entirely different order of injury, and comparatively minor (ie: you can recover from it - Terri Schiavo was not in a coma). PVS is a difficult condition to diagnose, 'cases' which have had recoveries were not in fact PVS. Schiavo certainly seemed to have PVS - when the autopsy comes out we will know for sure. BTW not condoning what went on, just don't wish to see a mistaken view that these two cases were the same, when they are hugely different, which dilutes the argument, IMHO. 326002[/snapback] Shhhhh. It wrecks a good story! Makes good JSP soundbytes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Tell that to this firefighter. 325987[/snapback] Oh man please follow logic. Coma victims do come out of it sometimes; vegetables do not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 My guess is that there were NOT basic similarities between this cas and the Schiavo case unless all the key issues are the same. One of the big keys to the Schiavo case was who decides for a person who is not able to make their own health decisions. The dispute was that her husband says that she clearly told him her wished not be kept alive if it required the use of itmes like the feeding tube in a hospital while her parents said that she should be kept alive, expressed no wish like that her husband said, and that she and the husband were no longer married in face, he was motivated by money, and should not be the next of kin. The courts ruled on the side of the sanctity of marriage and declared him the rightful next of kin. I have seen nothing to indicate that the basic issue of the firefighter's next of kin is the same as the dispute in the Schiavo case. To me however, the rule is the same, in cases of incapacity the next of kin gets to speak for the incapacitated person and I feel very uncomfortable with government intruding in decisions between a husband and wife virtually regardless of the reason. It seems in both cases the next of kin made the right decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 he has been in rehab for over 9 years he could not talk that just started he did know some peoples names 326251[/snapback] Here's more detail. He was in a coma for 2 1/2 months, and only this weekend did he talk for the first time: http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/new...egion-apnewyork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txbillsjunkie Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 WBEN: Buffalo Firefighter Awakes After 10 Year Coma 325784[/snapback] My guess is that somebody read him the Hogboy fireman thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewPort71 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 TX..I am glad I was not drinking anything when I read that...Cleaning monitors is no fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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