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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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KYIV — Ukrainian law enforcement officials on Tuesday jailed Oleksandr Dubinsky, a member of parliament who four years ago helped Rudy Giuliani in his failed attempts to dig up dirt on Joe Biden on behalf of then-president Donald Trump.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/14/dubinsky-trump-giuliani-arrest-ukraine/

 

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20 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

KYIV — Ukrainian law enforcement officials on Tuesday jailed Oleksandr Dubinsky, a member of parliament who four years ago helped Rudy Giuliani in his failed attempts to dig up dirt on Joe Biden on behalf of then-president Donald Trump.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/14/dubinsky-trump-giuliani-arrest-ukraine/

 

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IT is martial law, and that guy is in the opposition party.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Doc said:


Meet the new boss…

Too late.  There's already plenty of dirt on Biden.  And the only people that don't realize this is all but over are the necons and war hawks in Washington and Zelensky and his henchmen.  They're out of physically qualified young men to send to the front and security forces are left to kidnap old men and housewives off the streets for conscription.   

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7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Too late.  There's already plenty of dirt on Biden.  And the only people that don't realize this is all but over are the necons and war hawks in Washington and Zelensky and his henchmen.  They're out of physically qualified young men to send to the front and security forces are left to kidnap old men and housewives off the streets for conscription.   

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On 11/15/2023 at 10:42 AM, Tiberius said:

Like? 

 

Like conspiracies that have zero traction, otherwise facts and actual proof would have come out long ago rather than Orange guy speculation.

 

Also, people are so against the war that they're just making things up to try and justify letting Russia walk over Ukraine as if that won't cause even more death.

 

The people crying about their corruption simply don't comprehend most of Ukraine's corruption is caused by Russia.  Russia has infiltrated so many segments of Ukraine's government it's impossible to root out immediately.  Even the Orthodox church there is corrupt.  

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Dems insist on money that can be "corrupted" back to U.S.

 

 

 

Senate Democrats block bipartisan House Israel aid bill

by Jamie Joseph

 

Senate Democrats blocked a stand-alone Israel aid package led by Sen. Roger Marshall, R-Kan., Tuesday after a lengthy debate on the chamber floor.

 

Marshall sought unanimous consent for the House's version of the package, which passed the lower chamber with bipartisan support Nov. 2 and would earmark $14.3 billion reallocated from funds meant for the IRS in President Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act. Senators Marshall, Ted Cruz, JD Vance and Mike Lee introduced the Senate version last month.

 

But Democrats shot down the effort because the package does not include aid to Ukraine. A handful of Republican senators argued the two emergency aid packages should be split up and voted on separately.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-block-gop-senators-bipartisan-house-israel-aid-bill

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49 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Dems insist on money that can be "corrupted" back to U.S.

 

 

 

Senate Democrats block bipartisan House Israel aid bill

by Jamie Joseph

 

Senate Democrats blocked a stand-alone Israel aid package led by Sen. Roger Marshall, R-Kan., Tuesday after a lengthy debate on the chamber floor.

 

Marshall sought unanimous consent for the House's version of the package, which passed the lower chamber with bipartisan support Nov. 2 and would earmark $14.3 billion reallocated from funds meant for the IRS in President Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act. Senators Marshall, Ted Cruz, JD Vance and Mike Lee introduced the Senate version last month.

 

But Democrats shot down the effort because the package does not include aid to Ukraine. A handful of Republican senators argued the two emergency aid packages should be split up and voted on separately.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-block-gop-senators-bipartisan-house-israel-aid-bill

Good. We are going to get hit with terror attacks if we fund the bombing of Palestinian children 

 

We need to look out for ourselves. Fund Ukraine, Russia is our enemy. Hamas is Israel's enemy, they can handle them themselves 

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14 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Good. We are going to get hit with terror attacks if we fund the bombing of Palestinian children 

 

We need to look out for ourselves. Fund Ukraine, Russia is our enemy. Hamas is Israel's enemy, they can handle them themselves 

I know that you are old but it’s almost as if you are still in high school. Good heavens man. You’ve outdone yourself with this one. 

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18 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

I know that you are old but it’s almost as if you are still in high school. Good heavens man. You’ve outdone yourself with this one. 

You don't understand the term "blowback"? 

 

You don't think the entire Islamic world doesn't know we are funding the war on Gaza? 

 

You remember 9-11? 

 

 

Russia basically enslaving it's soldiers 

 

 

18 hours ago, Doc said:

No more money for Ukraine.  They can retrieve what we've already given from all their corrupt pols.

Putin thanks you! He loves this position 

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23 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Are you part of the “we brought it on ourselves” crowd? 

No. 

 

You don't understand that some unhinged people will blame us for funding Israel's war on Gaza? 

 

How don't you get that? Or you don't care? 

 

Or, is it that you want us to be attacked because the political situation will turn more towards what you favor? 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

No. 

 

You don't understand that some unhinged people will blame us for funding Israel's war on Gaza? 

 

How don't you get that? Or you don't care? 

 

Or, is it that you want us to be attacked because the political situation will turn more towards what you favor? 

 

 

There have been unhinged Islamists blaming America for everything for as long as you have been alive and now you are pearl-clutching over funding Israel. Something that’s also been happening for your entire life. Perhaps you’ve heard the islamists refer to the US as the Great Satan along the way. Do you think there is a way to get the Islamic world to “like” the USA? If so, you’re delusional. I know, that’s a given. More delusional would be a better way of saying it. 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Putin thanks you! He loves this position 

 

I don't give a *****.  We've wasted too much money already on an unwinnable war, one that could have been resolved a year ago, and worse yet our money is being stolen by corrupt pols.  It's the same corrupt shithole it's always been and will never be a true democracy much less admitted into NATO, which is why I keep saying "meet the new boss."

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57 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I don't give a *****.  We've wasted too much money already on an unwinnable war, one that could have been resolved a year ago, and worse yet our money is being stolen by corrupt pols.  It's the same corrupt shithole it's always been and will never be a true democracy much less admitted into NATO, which is why I keep saying "meet the new boss."

It is a winnable war, that's why Putin is fighting it. Don't let Putin Propaganda spread defeatism. Go with democracy, go with freedom 

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

There have been unhinged Islamists blaming America for everything for as long as you have been alive and now you are pearl-clutching over funding Israel. Something that’s also been happening for your entire life. Perhaps you’ve heard the islamists refer to the US as the Great Satan along the way. Do you think there is a way to get the Islamic world to “like” the USA? If so, you’re delusional. I know, that’s a given. More delusional would be a better way of saying it. 

No, mass killings of children by American funded weapons could push someone over the edge 

 

Blowback 

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