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16 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I thought Hayward was definitely dominating. Watt was able to free up in large part to Hayward decimating his matchups. We always seem to struggle against the elite power guys. As do lots of teams. I think it’s a horrible idea to move Williams inside. 
As someone really familiar with Carolina who has followed them pretty closely for the last 10 years or so (I’m no expert and don’t study film etc etc) but Williams was a pretty big failure in carolina when they moved him around the line. Just because he’s played other positions does not mean he’s above average at other spots. We do know for a fact he’s above average at RT though. That’s never been a question. Teams make adjustments. We did not. They could have easily slowed that pass rush with their play calling but for whatever reason they didn’t even try. 

Watt is a devastating pass rusher. How many times did they give Williams any help?  Rarely.  That is poor coaching.  

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3 hours ago, SCBills said:

Not going to overreact to one game.  
 

We all know the IOL is the weak spot in pass pro, so I’ll chalk up Williams/Dawkins struggles on Sunday to a one off.   Dawkins especially, as he’s coming off Covid and never looks that bad. 
 

That being said, watching that game was infuriating to those of us who were begging to upgrade the Guard positions.  
 

Anyone think we could move Daryl Williams inside to one of the Guard positions if/when Brown is ready to take over RT?  
 

Leaves us with Doyle as swing and Ford/Williams/Bates able to flip back out to Tackle if needed, but im just at a loss for what we saw from our starting OL against a 4 man rush most of the game.  

 

 

This offensive line is solid. PFF had them ranked 10th last year, and 14th going into the season. They are good enough against most teams, but then need some help with better schemes and protection help against your elite defensive fronts. 

 

Daboll doesn't seem to get this-- the game plan against PIT required a TE and probably a RB in the backfield all game to help on protection, run the ball more, and leak out to catch some dump offs. Instead, we go 5 wide, and expect our tackles to block Watt 1 on 1, and our guards to block Hayward 1 on 1. Didn't he watch the last two years when heyward ate us up inside when left 1 on 1? Gotta double team that dude all game.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Well I can say I am an extemely critical guy on our team after losses, and you know that going back to our discussions about TT.  However NO McD is not a horrible coach, he is a top 10 coach easy, however at least 3 times a game I can say WTF is he doing.  Yesterday was really really bad, I never seen him that badly outcoached.  And for those that are saying Diggs should get less Targets yeah they need to really learn football if anything I want Diggs targeted MORE.

Could have walked from Feliciano and should have.

I would have been fine with that and drafted center/guard in the second or third round.  

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36 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

The guy carried the ball all of 6 times up to that point. Listen to most of the great RBs (and I’m not calling Motor great) they say they need to carry the rock before they get going. Motor ended the game with a 7 yd per carry avg. Only thing that concerns me with him is ball security. Same with Josh.

KC did. Stole one in the 6th round.

 

It isn't Singletary himself (he looks much improved) so much as the blocking that worries me. They only made holes once the Steelers had backed off the line a bit. I have no trust at all in our oline to actually move the line of scrimmage. 

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17 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Watt is a devastating pass rusher. How many times did they give Williams any help?  Rarely.  That is poor coaching.  

I thought Williams did a decent job most times. I’d have to go back to look but from my naked eye I felt most of Watts and Ingrams best rushes came when Heyward lined up next to them and wrecked the interior freeing them up. Watt made his plays I just felt Heyward was the real game changer. 
Either way, it was pretty evident throughout the game our line was outmatched and we didn’t attempt to adjust anything. It reminded me a lot of the Baltimore game a couple years ago when they ran 0 blitz non stop and we couldn’t execute anything and couldn’t go over the top to back them off. 

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1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

I thought Williams did a decent job most times. I’d have to go back to look but from my naked eye I felt most of Watts and Ingrams best rushes came when Heyward lined up next to them and wrecked the interior freeing them up. Watt made his plays I just felt Heyward was the real game changer. 
Either way, it was pretty evident throughout the game our line was outmatched and we didn’t attempt to adjust anything. It reminded me a lot of the Baltimore game a couple years ago when they ran 0 blitz non stop and we couldn’t execute anything and couldn’t go over the top to back them off. 

 

Williams wasn't great against Watt, but they seemed to think because he shut him down last year that we could just do it again.  

 

The strip sack seemed to be more a function of Allen holding onto the ball, then scrambling.  Williams got beat, but if Allen could step up, the strip sack never occurs..  Spoiler Alert, Allen could never step up in the pocket because Feliciano was too busy getting rag dolled by Heyward. 

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