T&C Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, Doc said: Like I said, get it from the schools. Why though? These people Knew what they were getting in to. The only reason I could see going after a school is if fraud on their part was committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, T&C said: Why though? These people Knew what they were getting in to. The only reason I could see going after a school is if fraud on their part was committed. I'm saying if they're going after someone for the money. The taxpayers shouldn't have to shoulder the burden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 The problem with student loans has always been the high interest rates. Making the minimum payment like a credit card will cost you a lot more. It's not like a 5 year car loan when you see the total interest cost upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, ALF said: The problem with student loans has always been the high interest rates. Making the minimum payment like a credit card will cost you a lot more. It's not like a 5 year car loan when you see the total interest cost upfront. I think the root of the problem is the outrageously high tuition charged by these universities and colleges. Like $40K and higher. Some sitting on billion dollar endowment funds while soaking parents and students. Acedemic institutions running a country club for intellectuals living the comfortable life pillaging the system and comsuming high level of resources while producing little of value. A permanent vacation. No wonder they support socialism. They're already living it. A cost/benefit of that colege degree weighing in with interest and expected income might show it a poor investment. In terms of fairness, it's not right to require somebody to start their work life in a financial bottomless pit. I'm not against these student debt relief efforts but there should be some means test and the colleges should bear, lets say 1/2 the costs, not just the taxpayers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 Welcome to the "regular folks" world hunter... https://baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2023/09/14/hunter-biden-indicted-gun-charges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 The good news for him is he'll probably skate on leaving cocaine in the White House... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 On 9/8/2023 at 1:39 PM, JDHillFan said: I am but a rube. Would one of the leftist board members be kind enough to educate me on what “San Francisco values” are and how we might recognize them in, uhhh, San Francisco? Been there once years ago. Seemed a nice place but, how should I say this, quirky city. Lot's of neat places to go but lot's of homeless and literally insane people on the street. I don't know why they have so many. Weather is only ok. They've had problems for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Been there once years ago. Seemed a nice place but, how should I say this, quirky city. Lot's of neat places to go but lot's of homeless and literally insane people on the street. I don't know why they have so many. Weather is only ok. They've had problems for a long time. One might have thought the “benefit” of decades of uninterrupted progressive governance would have resulted in utopia on the bay. Instead it’s a sh*thole. Go figure. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 I'm just spending the morning thinking about the Roman empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 On 9/9/2023 at 6:36 AM, All_Pro_Bills said: Acedemic institutions running a country club for intellectuals living the comfortable life pillaging the system and comsuming high level of resources while producing little of value. A permanent vacation. No wonder they support socialism. They're already living it. A cost/benefit of that colege degree weighing in with interest and expected income might show it a poor investment. you seem resentful. I can't think of an actual socialist from my college class. In fact, many work in finance, in the heart of the capitalist system. The cost/benefit has been done. On average, people with degrees make much more over the course of a career...enough to offset the cost of school and interest. I've posted the data twice now, from the census bureau I believe. Now, if someone is borrowing every penny, they would be wise to look at cheaper alternatives. I have friends who sent their kids to a local community college while they lived at home. Then transferred to "name" state schools where they got their degrees . I left med school about $100k in debt. Much more in todays dollars. I paid it all off as fast as I could, moonlighting during residency to stop interest from accruing. It can be done without too much long term financial pain if you are trained in a good paying profession or career. BTW, med school was hardly a vacation. About 10% of my class couldn't cut it and dropped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 11 hours ago, B-Man said: I hope the writer's get a huge cut of the money made from their work. They're basically the real talent because without them, there is no show for these actors to perform. Meanwhile "Gutfeld!" is still going strong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 7:42 AM, SCBills said: Russell Brand takes a flamethrower to propaganda news … absolute fire Groomer say what? https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russell-brand-rape-sexual-assault-abuse-allegations-investigation-v5hxdlmb6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 22 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: you seem resentful. I can't think of an actual socialist from my college class. In fact, many work in finance, in the heart of the capitalist system. The cost/benefit has been done. On average, people with degrees make much more over the course of a career...enough to offset the cost of school and interest. I've posted the data twice now, from the census bureau I believe. Now, if someone is borrowing every penny, they would be wise to look at cheaper alternatives. I have friends who sent their kids to a local community college while they lived at home. Then transferred to "name" state schools where they got their degrees . I left med school about $100k in debt. Much more in todays dollars. I paid it all off as fast as I could, moonlighting during residency to stop interest from accruing. It can be done without too much long term financial pain if you are trained in a good paying profession or career. BTW, med school was hardly a vacation. About 10% of my class couldn't cut it and dropped out. You are retired and the world has changed, not sure how you do not realize how much academia has changed in the past 25 years. Also the cost benefit is based on people who are 50+ and not discussing those who have the worthless degrees that cost 200k that have only existed for 25 years. As you personally stated at one time UF was an easy school to get into and now it is the #1 ranked public school in the country according to WSJ. Lastly my son has an open socialist as his philosophy professor, so the students might be less the problem then the professors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: You are retired and the world has changed, not sure how you do not realize how much academia has changed in the past 25 years. Also the cost benefit is based on people who are 50+ and not discussing those who have the worthless degrees that cost 200k that have only existed for 25 years. As you personally stated at one time UF was an easy school to get into and now it is the #1 ranked public school in the country according to WSJ. Lastly my son has an open socialist as his philosophy professor, so the students might be less the problem then the professors. Yes, things have changed in, cough-cough, 40 years. But I have some continuing interactions with contemporary students thru teaching and attending university sponsored conferences. $100k in the early 80's was more than $200k now. My primary care doc has med students with him almost every time I go in. I gifted several tix to a Rotary wine tasting and they came.. Super nice kids but I do feel sorry for them with the debt they have and the direction Medicine has gone. I was surprised by UF's competitiveness. I had really good time there but it was like a time share sales show for their grad school. If they still do that, I'd encourage your kid to apply. There was even housing and a stipend provided. There may be an openly socialist prof or 2 where I went to undergrad. I didn't know them. There were many more conservative role models with great minds from great institutions. WSJ subscription was required reading for any Econ class...I wouldn't be concerned with the Philosophy prof. He/she will be teaching Locke and Hobbes as well as Marx.... and for the 3rd time, Education Pays: https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm Edited September 17, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, B-Man said: . You gonna lead the revolution? Can hardly wait...you and catshite, quite a team. Add in Farley and you'll almost certainly be winners! Oh, and ol tuck but he'll be in Russia by then. Edited September 17, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-will-no-longer-enforce-dress-code-senators So famous slob Fetterman can adorn the Senate floor in his gym shorts? I know I’m hopelessly old fashioned. But is it too much to at least require something resembling business casual? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-will-no-longer-enforce-dress-code-senators So famous slob Fetterman can adorn the Senate floor in his gym shorts? I know I’m hopelessly old fashioned. But is it too much to at least require something resembling business casual? Of the huge list of problems in congress, this one is pretty low on my priority list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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