PrimeTime101 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Hey all, I am going to go through each position on offense. and hope for some thoughts. Offense QB So we have our franchise QB Allen but we need the depth. The debate here is Josh with his running ability tends to get him into injury trouble.. Do we need solid depth where we know if the QB has to step in for josh, will we be able to depend on him to win 50% of the games for you? Or do we risk a late round pick and roll the dice? RB This debate rolls on in these forums... Many do not think Singletary is a starter and this position is a flat out hole. Here is my view of this. We have our Old Line back for the most part barring any FA upgrades. This RB team we have did not perform well with this line and it seems to come up to be talked about with our GM. Unless you want our QB to be the #1 runner again.. I have to look at this as a flat out hole. No matter who your QB is if you cant trust your RB team to be better then Josh in yards gained how can this not be considered a hole? for me upgrade is where you have a player you can live with but you want to get better... We cant live with what we have. Very opinionated topic on these forums. I would love any of the top 2 RB in draft but that's slowly becoming unlikely. TE Knox had 10 drops and 2 fumbles last year and we do not have much for depth here. We could use Depth and maybe an upgrade here. Many hoping for Ertz. That would not hurt. This position needs work. WR Emanual Sanders, welcome to Buffalo.. With Diggs, Davis, Beasley.. I can see no other upgrades needed here happening unless its through the draft. We need these guys all healthy late next year... period. Maybe still an upgrade to come but I doubt it LT Dawkins. Yep We' good LG Boettger we are trying to keep him yet at the same time.. he has been hot and cold for us. For me I really hope we upgrade the other side cause that short time Feliciano played LG, our line was smoking hot. Although at depth chart he is penned in at RG? I see him at LG all the way. Brian Winters is penned in here as the backup and holds his own on pass plays which is good cause we are a pass heavy team. for now we good C Morse. I have been critical of him on running downs but he is our starter for a while so I am not going to go to crazy on this position RG Cody Ford played this position and RT but I am finding it interesting on the official Web they have him not as G or T but as OL and not on the depth chart. What does all this mean exactly I don't know. Officially they have Feliciano starting at RG so what gives here? Maybe I can get some help and thoughts more on this position UPGRADE.. PLEASE... 3rd round? RT Williams had a fantastic year for the most part we are good here. Thoughts? My biggest problem is it looks like we are trying to return our Offensive line as is and Josh cant be our best runner next year... Was the problem on our RB team? Did they not hit the holes? Was our Run Blocking that bad? Would adding a beast run blocker at RG help this team? and at what cost? Be interested in reading your thoughts hopes an even pipe dreams for this Offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Need an upgrade at TE and I would love to see a homerun threat like Etienne at RB mixed in. Other than that I think we are good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Speed WR/KR/PR and Swing Tackle might be our only “needs”, if you ask me. In order of wants: Pass Rusher CB2 TE1 RB1 Edited March 18, 2021 by SCBills 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Hey all, I am going to go through each position on offense. and hope for some thoughts. Offense QB So we have our franchise QB Allen but we need the depth. The debate here is Josh with his running ability tends to get him into injury trouble.. Do we need solid depth where we know if the QB has to step in for josh, will we be able to depend on him to win 50% of the games for you? Or do we risk a late round pick and roll the dice? RB This debate rolls on in these forums... Many do not think Singletary is a starter and this position is a flat out hole. Here is my view of this. We have our Old Line back for the most part barring any FA upgrades. This RB team we have did not perform well with this line and it seems to come up to be talked about with our GM. Unless you want our QB to be the #1 runner again.. I have to look at this as a flat out hole. No matter who your QB is if you cant trust your RB team to be better then Josh in yards gained how can this not be considered a hole? for me upgrade is where you have a player you can live with but you want to get better... We cant live with what we have. Very opinionated topic on these forums. I would love any of the top 2 RB in draft but that's slowly becoming unlikely. TE Knox had 10 drops and 2 fumbles last year and we do not have much for depth here. We could use Depth and maybe an upgrade here. Many hoping for Ertz. That would not hurt. This position needs work. WR Emanual Sanders, welcome to Buffalo.. With Diggs, Davis, Beasley.. I can see no other upgrades needed here happening unless its through the draft. We need these guys all healthy late next year... period. Maybe still an upgrade to come but I doubt it LT Dawkins. Yep We' good LG Boettger we are trying to keep him yet at the same time.. he has been hot and cold for us. For me I really hope we upgrade the other side cause that short time Feliciano played LG, our line was smoking hot. Although at depth chart he is penned in at RG? I see him at LG all the way. Brian Winters is penned in here as the backup and holds his own on pass plays which is good cause we are a pass heavy team. for now we good C Morse. I have been critical of him on running downs but he is our starter for a while so I am not going to go to crazy on this position RG Cody Ford played this position and RT but I am finding it interesting on the official Web they have him not as G or T but as OL and not on the depth chart. What does all this mean exactly I don't know. Officially they have Feliciano starting at RG so what gives here? Maybe I can get some help and thoughts more on this position UPGRADE.. PLEASE... 3rd round? RT Williams had a fantastic year for the most part we are good here. Thoughts? My biggest problem is it looks like we are trying to return our Offensive line as is and Josh cant be our best runner next year... Was the problem on our RB team? Did they not hit the holes? Was our Run Blocking that bad? Would adding a beast run blocker at RG help this team? and at what cost? Be interested in reading your thoughts hopes an even pipe dreams for this Offense. Singletary averaged well over 5 YPC in his rookie year and as "poor" as he was last year, averaged 4.4 YPC. I don't think the Bills strength is in run blocking and this showed pretty badly last year. They also don't run the ball a lot, which is understandable when you have muthaf***in' JA17 and his host of WRs. I still would love to see a gamebreaker like Etienne mixed in to give us another threat to score from anywhere on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Need an upgrade at TE and I would love to see a homerun threat like Etienne at RB mixed in. Other than that I think we are good. Is Etienne a pipe dream at this point and yes... I am starting to look at both RB and TE, more as holes then upgrades at this point. thanks for the read 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Speed WR/KR/PR and Swing Tackle might be our only “needs”, if you ask me. In order of wants: Pass Rusher CB2 TE1 RB1 I don't look at CB #2 as a need as much as an upgrade. but for the most part I am with you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 You lost me with the QB and injury thing... sounded pretty convoluted/strawman argument ish, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Singletary averaged well over 5 YPC in his rookie year and as "poor" as he was last year, averaged 4.4 YPC. I don't think the Bills strength is in run blocking and this showed pretty badly last year. They also don't run the ball a lot, which is understandable when you have muthaf***in' JA17 and his host of WRs. I still would love to see a gamebreaker like Etienne mixed in to give us another threat to score from anywhere on the field. And Turk.. This scares me cause our same line is just about ALL back... SCARRY... we need one guard that can Run block like the effing wind. and a true #1 runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 If you are talking about filling a position in FA I would think that either a speedy RB or a potential pass catching TE. In the draft whatever wasn't filled above plus a G/C player to develop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Don Otreply said: You lost me with the QB and injury thing... sounded pretty convoluted/strawman argument ish, thanks for your detailed opinion.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I don’t think RB is “terrible”, but given how the line did in pass pro, I am going to give them a slight pass. RB is easily our biggest weakness in that side of the ball. Probably followed by TE, OG, OT, WR, and QB in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, ColoradoBills said: If you are talking about filling a position in FA I would think that either a speedy RB or a potential pass catching TE. In the draft whatever wasn't filled above plus a G/C player to develop. ColoradoBills nice to see you.. no I am talking FA or Draft Just now, Mango said: I don’t think RB is “terrible”, but given how the line did in pass pro, I am going to give them a slight pass. RB is easily our biggest weakness in that side of the ball. Probably followed by TE, OG, OT, WR, and QB in that order. So Mongo do we need a run blocking Guard at right side and a RB or either or? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, SCBills said: Speed WR/KR/PR and Swing Tackle might be our only “needs”, if you ask me. In order of wants: Pass Rusher CB2 TE1 RB1 Gonna keep banging the drum for a 1-tech DT in rounds 3-5. Togiai, Shelvin, or in the later rounds Bobby Brown. A big space eater will create many openings for our other front 7. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: ColoradoBills nice to see you.. no I am talking FA or Draft So Mongo do we need a run blocking Guard at right side and a RB or either or? I think Dawkins, Feliciano, Morse, and Williams are all better at what they do than what Singletary does as RB1. Could we get better at OG specifically, 100%, but if I have to do one before the other, it’s RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: ColoradoBills nice to see you.. no I am talking FA or Draft Great. Then I say again a speedy RB who can stretch the D and get outside is needed. A pass catching TE to compliment Knox who we are not sure yet can be the TE1. A short deal probably is best. Probably a little older. This I was hoping Beane could get in FA. An Interior Lineman to develop from the draft. This seems to me all that can be done this year with limited money and the 1st 3 picks. The 5th rounders and later is just luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Mango said: I think Dawkins, Feliciano, Morse, and Williams are all better at what they do than what Singletary does as RB1. Could we get better at OG specifically, 100%, but if I have to do one before the other, it’s RB. yea see this is where my mind goes crazy cause we are trying to get every last piece back from last year. I am with you at RB 100%. No matter what if its a speed RB or a tackle buster.. we need a solid RB we are missing it. Thanks for your reply as I value your opinion! 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Great. Then I say again a speedy RB who can stretch the D and get outside is needed. A pass catching TE to compliment Knox who we are not sure yet can be the TE1. A short deal probably is best. Probably a little older. This I was hoping Beane could get in FA. An Interior Lineman to develop from the draft. This seems to me all that can be done this year with limited money and the 1st 3 picks. The 5th rounders and later is just luck. If that's all you think we can do, Does it concern you that Josh Allen could be our #1 runner again next year? see this is what keeps me up wondering... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Hey all, Offense QB So we have our franchise QB Allen but we need the depth. The debate here is Josh with his running ability tends to get him into injury trouble.. Do we need solid depth where we know if the QB has to step in for josh, will we be able to depend on him to win 50% of the games for you? Or do we risk a late round pick and roll the dice? Are you suggesting ANOTHER late round pick on QB or are you talking about rolling with Webb or Fromm as #2? 7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: TE Knox had 10 drops and 2 fumbles last year and we do not have much for depth here. We could use Depth and maybe an upgrade here. Many hoping for Ertz. That would not hurt. This position needs work. Fact: Knox had 4 drops and 2 fumbles, one of which ....was just weird. INT? Fumble? Incomplete pass? I'm not denying that we need improvement at the TE position but let's not exaggerate 7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: WR Emanual Sanders, welcome to Buffalo.. With Diggs, Davis, Beasley.. I can see no other upgrades needed here happening unless its through the draft. We need these guys all healthy late next year... period. Maybe still an upgrade to come but I doubt it We need speed. 7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: My biggest problem is it looks like we are trying to return our Offensive line as is and Josh cant be our best runner next year... Was the problem on our RB team? Did they not hit the holes? Was our Run Blocking that bad? Would adding a beast run blocker at RG help this team? and at what cost? For the run game, blocking by the OL and TE/FB need to improve. I expect them to have Boettger and Ford compete at LG and have Feliciano and a rookie compete at RG. We need an upgrade at TE though. I'm wondering if they think Williams is the upgrade (or at least the competition) they need at RB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Are you suggesting ANOTHER late round pick on QB or are you talking about rolling with Webb or Fromm as #2? I am asking for input it was a question and not the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rk_Bills86 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I made post about this earlier but this was my general outlook on needs: Needs (* denotes highest level of need): QB - Vet backup? *RB -Starter/Depth Improvement via FA/Draft **WR - Depth Improvement via FA/Draft *****TE - Please, anything to improve this situation on our roster (Preferably entirely through FA due to supposed lack of Draft Prospects) C - Heir Apparent via draft and/or additional backup if roster space allows OT - Heir Apparent via draft and/or additional backup if roster space allows *G - Starter/Depth Improvement or competition over Cody Ford via FA or Draft and/or additional backup if roster space allows *DT - Starter/Depth Improvement via FA/Draft - Big Man Heir to Star in draft **DE - Starter/Depth Improvement or competition over Mario Addison via FA or Draft - Heir Apparent via draft and/or additional backup if roster space allows ILB - Depth Improvement via FA/Draft - OLB - Depth Improvement via FA/Draft - (Pending Scheme and Coaching Philosophy add ** if we intend to get a beast SAM OLB and run more traditional 4-3 sets) **CB - #2 opposite Tre and Starter/Depth Improvement via FA/Draft S - Starter/Depth Improvement via FA/Draft - Heir Apparent via draft Some of our needs will also depend on how the coaches feel about certain things. Is Dane Jackson our #2 CB? Is Cody Ford really going to be the starting G moving into next season? Do we really believe Star will be enough of a presence that our DE's will get home? WE NEED TE's - this is by far the only true major hole - we can't even say that we can consider our players would equate to average overall. Can we start getting future replacements for our aging vets? and lastly OLB - Are we married to the 2 LB concept or could we possibly be in the market (FA/Draft - This year/next year) for true SAM OLB - moving Milano to WILL which imo would shore up the run D a little bit and could help with TEs that run free while also being another person the QBs would have to be concerned about. I dream of a 3 LB set with Milano and Tre showing Double A gap pre-snap and having a monster come in off the edge when the both drop back into coverage (rather than a safety or CB doing this role- which not saying don't have it in the play book - just adds another wrinkle for opposing teams to need to study) On the same point - Could we be in the market for FA/Drafting a Tweener LB/Safety 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Are you suggesting ANOTHER late round pick on QB or are you talking about rolling with Webb or Fromm as #2? Fact: Knox had 4 drops and 2 fumbles, one of which ....was just weird. INT? Fumble? Incomplete pass? I'm not denying that we need improvement at the TE position but let's not exaggerate We need speed. For the run game, blocking by the OL and TE/FB need to improve. I expect them to have Boettger and Ford compete at LG and have Feliciano and a rookie compete at RG. We need an upgrade at TE though. I'm wondering if they think Williams is the upgrade (or at least the competition) they need at RB. Thanks for your Reply HBF Knox scares me... Wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: thanks for your detailed opinion.. any time, 👍 your description on the QB being likely to be injured in his play is not accurate, and lacks precision, hows that? In other words it is a made up scenario, such as a strawman argument... does that help? 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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