Doc Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I guess their desired result was having the world laugh at us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chef Jim Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, BillStime said: mmmhmmm So you agree that you’re either an idiot or that you’re saying Trump released 5,000 prisoners is inaccurate? Check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: So you agree that you’re either an idiot or that you’re saying Trump released 5,000 prisoners is inaccurate? Check. Oh I agree you’re an idiot, Trump released those prisoners and killed your girl Ashli - the American terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It’s more simple than that. The chaos ensued because Americans put a guy in office the Taliban knew. They knew he was weak, foolish and simple long before he became an old fool. Now, he starts sending them money, it would seem. Your man is bad. Who surrendered to the Taliban? Released 5,000 Taliban prisoners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 20 hours ago, BillStime said: Oh I agree you’re an idiot, Trump released those prisoners and killed your girl Ashli - the American terrorist. Where was he holding the prisoners he released? One of his Russian hotels? And how did he kill Ashli? What gun did he use? And she’s not my girl nor a terrorist. She’s worm food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 GOING GOING Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 SAME HERE: Joe Biden’s Senate Friends Are Not Impressed With His Afghanistan Spin. https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/03/joe-bidens-senate-friends-are-not-impressed-with-his-afghanistan-spin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 5:41 PM, Chef Jim said: Full control of the country? Please explain. And again you and @BillStime saying Trump released 5,000 is inaccurate at least and a lie at best. These were not his prisoners to release. Am I playing semantics? No words have meaning and saying Trump released 5,000 prisoners is not what happened. Fact-check: Did Trump free 5,000 Taliban prisoners during his term? Mitt Romney: The Trump administration worked to free 5,000 Taliban prisoners. PolitiFact's ruling: True By August 2020, news reports said that the Afghan government, which was not a signatory in the Taliban-U.S. deal, had released 4,600 Taliban prisoners after pressure from the Trump administration. Afghan officials considered the release of 400 other prisoners problematic because they had committed major crimes, Voice of America reported. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/09/01/trump-taliban-peace-deal-afghanistan-prisoners/5673035001/ VERIFY Yes, the Trump administration in 2020 agreed to the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners This is true. Yes, as part of a deal made with the Taliban in 2020, the Trump administration agreed to the release of up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners in exchange for the release of up to 1,000 prisoners “of the other side.” https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/afghanistan-taliban-united-states-deal-5000-prisoners/536-202b0ae9-6251-44d3-a3d0-b9e7d029aed9 By full control of Afghanistan is to have all bases manned with full air support and enough troops until evacuation was complete. Relying on the Afghan military without US logistic and air support was a disaster. Yes I do blame Biden not Trump for the failed evacuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, ALF said: Fact-check: Did Trump free 5,000 Taliban prisoners during his term? Mitt Romney: The Trump administration worked to free 5,000 Taliban prisoners. PolitiFact's ruling: True By August 2020, news reports said that the Afghan government, which was not a signatory in the Taliban-U.S. deal, had released 4,600 Taliban prisoners after pressure from the Trump administration. Afghan officials considered the release of 400 other prisoners problematic because they had committed major crimes, Voice of America reported. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/09/01/trump-taliban-peace-deal-afghanistan-prisoners/5673035001/ VERIFY Yes, the Trump administration in 2020 agreed to the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners This is true. Yes, as part of a deal made with the Taliban in 2020, the Trump administration agreed to the release of up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners in exchange for the release of up to 1,000 prisoners “of the other side.” https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/afghanistan-taliban-united-states-deal-5000-prisoners/536-202b0ae9-6251-44d3-a3d0-b9e7d029aed9 By full control of Afghanistan is to have all bases manned with full air support and enough troops until evacuation was complete. Relying on the Afghan military without US logistic and air support was a disaster. Yes I do blame Biden not Trump for the failed evacuation. I thought I read yesterday that the present Taliban leader was one of those prisoners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Governor said: I thought I read yesterday that the present Taliban leader was one of those prisoners. • The U.S. envoy chosen by President Donald Trump, Zalmay Khalilzad, has publicly confirmed that he requested and secured the release of senior Taliban official Abdul Ghani Baradar from prison in Pakistan ahead of negotiations to end the war in Afghanistan. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/18/instagram-posts/posts-correct-about-trump-administrations-role-rel/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Governor said: I thought I read yesterday that the present Taliban leader was one of those prisoners. Yup. And 2 of the prisoners Obama released for Bergdahl are leaders. The 5,000 is a distraction. The Taliban had far greater numbers that this, importing many people from around the ME/Pakistan. It still doesn't excuse Joey's horrible withdrawal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 7 hours ago, ALF said: Fact-check: Did Trump free 5,000 Taliban prisoners during his term? Mitt Romney: The Trump administration worked to free 5,000 Taliban prisoners. PolitiFact's ruling: True By August 2020, news reports said that the Afghan government, which was not a signatory in the Taliban-U.S. deal, had released 4,600 Taliban prisoners after pressure from the Trump administration. Afghan officials considered the release of 400 other prisoners problematic because they had committed major crimes, Voice of America reported. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/09/01/trump-taliban-peace-deal-afghanistan-prisoners/5673035001/ VERIFY Yes, the Trump administration in 2020 agreed to the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners This is true. Yes, as part of a deal made with the Taliban in 2020, the Trump administration agreed to the release of up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners in exchange for the release of up to 1,000 prisoners “of the other side.” https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/afghanistan-taliban-united-states-deal-5000-prisoners/536-202b0ae9-6251-44d3-a3d0-b9e7d029aed9 By full control of Afghanistan is to have all bases manned with full air support and enough troops until evacuation was complete. Relying on the Afghan military without US logistic and air support was a disaster. Yes I do blame Biden not Trump for the failed evacuation. I’ll play semantics all day and I’ll be right. Trump did not release or even authorize the release of those prisoners as he had no jurisdiction over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: I’ll play semantics all day and I’ll be right. Trump did not release or even authorize the release of those prisoners as he had no jurisdiction over them. Did Trump pressure the Afghan gov to release at least 4600 prisoners in 2020 and Pakistan to release a Taliban leader in 2018, just a yes or no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Liberalism is a mental disease. Newsweek editor-at-large Naveed Jamali made it clear: just because the Taliban is not allowing private charter planes to evacuate American citizens and Afghan allies doesn’t mean that the Taliban is trying to keep American citizens and Afghan allies from leaving Afghanistan. Those people trapped on the tarmac for six days are not hostages; nobody is being denied exit from Afghanistan. Well, if you're *on* the airplane in question... not so much We’ll if that isn’t twisting words, I don’t know what is. https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/09/06/that-is-a-pretty-big-distinction-its-the-planes-being-denied-clearance-to-leave-afghanistan-not-the-people/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Yup. It's mostly mental. My son wants to go into medicine. I'm going to tell him to go into psychiatry and specialize in TDS. He'll make a killing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 BYRON YORK: TWO AWKWARD QUESTIONS ABOUT AFGHAN REFUGEES: “Biden administration officials are proud of their effort to airlift about 118,000 Afghans, plus somewhere between 5,000 and 6,000 U.S. citizens, from the Kabul airport in the final days of the president’s botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. But still unanswered are two key questions. One, who did we leave behind? And two, who did we bring out? The administration would prefer you did not ask those questions.” https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/byron-yorks-daily-memo-two-questions-about-afghan-refugees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 "Getting Results" Biden Requests $6.4B in Taxpayer Money to Resettle 95K Afghans in U.S. 15 hours ago — President Joe Biden's administration is asking Congress to authorize about $6.4 billion in American taxpayer money to bring 95,000 Afghans to the United ... https://cbnc.com/biden-requests-6-4b-in-taxpayer-money-to-resettle-95k-afghans-in-u-s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 On 9/5/2021 at 4:22 PM, ALF said: Did Trump pressure the Afghan gov to release at least 4600 prisoners in 2020 and Pakistan to release a Taliban leader in 2018, just a yes or no Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, B-Man said: Sounds like another "Stand Down" lie from your GOP liars! You guys love making stuff up, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Here come the resignations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 23 hours ago, Tiberius said: Sounds like another "Stand Down" lie from your GOP liars! You guys love making stuff up, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Getting results ............. Biden Removes US Missiles from Saudi Arabia, In an Obama-Like Move to Appease Iran by Joe Hoft The wheels of insanity in the OBiden Administration are about to fall off again. Rather than solidifying President Trump’s policy of peace in the Middle East, OBiden’s actions are likely to blow the entire region up into another OBiden mess. President Trump went to the Middle East and visited world religious leaders on his first overseas visit in an effort to bring peace to the Middle East. President Trump inherited ISIS terrorizing the Middle East as well as Iran and both these terrorist entities were backed by the OBiden gang. President Trump’s strategy was peace, not horror and destruction. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/biden-removes-us-missiles-saudi-arabia-aligning-us-closer-another-terrorist-nation-iran/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Getting results (?) AFGHANISTAN HOSTAGE CRISIS: Family of Navy Vet Wants Biden Official Fired. “If Frerichs’ name doesn’t sound familiar despite months of captivity, maybe that’s because ‘Biden has mentioned Frerichs in public once before in a July speech, but stumbled over his name when doing so.'” https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/09/15/afganistan-hostage-crisis-family-of-navy-vet-wants-biden-official-fired-n1479008 Edited September 15, 2021 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Getting results (?) AFGHANISTAN HOSTAGE CRISIS: Family of Navy Vet Wants Biden Official Fired. “If Frerichs’ name doesn’t sound familiar despite months of captivity, maybe that’s because ‘Biden has mentioned Frerichs in public once before in a July speech, but stumbled over his name when doing so.'” https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/09/15/afganistan-hostage-crisis-family-of-navy-vet-wants-biden-official-fired-n1479008 When was Mark abducted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Getting results..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, B-Man said: Getting results..... When was Mark abducted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Getting results..... Why would he do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: When was Mark abducted? 1 hour ago, BillStime said: When was Mark abducted? Usually I would ignore BillZtimes desperate attempt to deflect, but for the sake of the thread I will respond. Comprehension not Billzy's strongpoint as the article was about the family's concern with the present situation, since Biden abandoned the country a few weeks ago. 2 hours ago, B-Man said: AFGHANISTAN HOSTAGE CRISIS: Family of Navy Vet Wants Biden Official Fired. “If Frerichs’ name doesn’t sound familiar despite months of captivity, maybe that’s because ‘Biden has mentioned Frerichs in public once before in a July speech, but stumbled over his name when doing so.'” WASHINGTON, Sept 13 (Reuters) - The family of Mark Frerichs on Monday urged U.S. President Joe Biden to fire his chief Afghanistan peace negotiator, charging that the envoy has done little to win the release of the last American believed to be held hostage by the Taliban. Now a civil engineer whose work brought him to Afghanistan several times, Mark Frerichs was taken hostage last January by members of the Taliban-aligned Haqqani network. Frerichs was last seen in the remote Khost province on the lawless Pakistani. border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Mark Frerichs was taken hostage last January by members of the Taliban-aligned Haqqani network. Frerichs was last seen in the remote Khost province on the lawless Pakistani. border. JANUARY 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Mark Frerichs was abducted in January 2020 - and Trump did jack to get Mark home. The Art of the Deal author, Donald J Trump negotiated the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners and couldn't figure out a way to work in the release of Mark by the Haqqani network, a group closely aligned with the Taliban? What did Trump get in return?$?$?$?$?$?$?$? Last, I did a search on Mark Frerichs on this message board - not ONE person from your cult; including you, Bonnie - mentioned this guy once until today. You are a hack, @B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: JANUARY 2020 Yes. thats what The linked article said. The board will note how you did not respond regarding "Mark's" (apparently you are on a first name basis 😄) family concerns about how he has been left in AUGUST 2021 so typical of you to focus only on you. Meanwhile back to Joe's (1st name) Afghanistan. 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Last, I did a search on Mark Frerichs on this message board - not ONE person from your cult; including you, Bonnie - mentioned this guy once until today. The article I posted was written today. again Billzy more concerned with responses to him than truth. Typical (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Yes. thats what The linked article said. The board will note how you did not respond regarding "Mark's" (apparently you are on a first name basis 😄) family concerns about how he has been left in AUGUST 2021 so typical of you to focus only on you. Meanwhile back to Joe's (1st name) Afghanistan. The article I posted was written today. again Billzy more concerned with responses to him than truth. Typical (again) Mark Frerichs was abducted in JANUARY 2020 and Jesus Trump did JACK about it. “The Taliban kidnapped my brother in January. In February [2020], the U.S. signed a peace deal with the Taliban. My brother wasn’t part of the deal. Now we are arranging for the Taliban and Afghan government to exchange thousands of prisoners,” Charlene Cakora, one of Frerichs’ sisters, said in a statement provided to the AP. "Why can’t we make an American hostage be one of them?” Frerichs' father, Art, said in a statement that though he has faith in President Donald Trump and Pompeo, “I just need them to tell their people negotiating with the Taliban that America won’t lift a finger until my son comes home. He’s a veteran. This is America. We don’t leave people behind. Source: Navy SEALs raided Afghan village in attempt to locate Illinois man taken hostage by militants Bonnie, Why did Trump leave Mark Frerichs behind? What did Trump do to get this guy safely home while he was "POTUS" for an additional 12 months? Why did Trump negotiate and sign a peace agreement - let 5,000 Taliban prisoners go and NOT demand the release of Mark Frerichs? You don't want the truth because you can't handle the truth; especially when it blows up in your face like it did just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Wow, someone skipped his naptime. I should make you look for it, but I feel sorry for your desperation. Look at your post again. You keep saying that the Trump administration didn't do anything, and then you also post a story about a rescue mission for him 😂 Back to Biden's Afghanistan Story keeps changing by the hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Wow, someone skipped his naptime. I should make you look for it, but I feel sorry for your desperation. Look at your post again. You keep saying that the Trump administration didn't do anything, and then you also post a story about a rescue mission for him 😂 Back to Biden's Afghanistan Story keeps changing by the hour. Trump had 12 months to rescue the guy - Trump negotiated the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners and what did he get in return? NOTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: So you're not claiming he didn't do "anything anymore regarding "Mark" Progress. Although you immediately fell back to your old narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: So you're not claiming he didn't do "anything anymore regarding "Mark" Progress. Although you immediately fell back to your old narrative. How many Taliban prisoners did Trump set free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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