Mr. WEO Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 9 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: I think that’s called a field goal We-Man. Oh then it should be "go for 3 first". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Actually, guys, the math says the estimated change in win probability in this situation (down 9) is roughly the same whether you go for one or two, so it really is a matter of psychology and determining whether you want to risk it still being a two-score game at that point in time. in such a situation it’s a gut feel for the coach, and to me the smart move is to kick the point so you know it’s a one-score game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 A lot depends on how effective a team is in short yardage situations. The Bills seem to be. But being aggressive can bite you too. Go back to the Patriots home game in 2019. Bills go for it on 4th and goal from the 2 and fail. Had they gone for three, they were in FG range on the next possession. Could have tied the game and forced overtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I would kick the extra point. Only time to go for 2 is when you have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Greg S said: I would kick the extra point. Only time to go for 2 is when you have to. I agree. You never know what else might happen in the game only to look back on a gamble you didn’t actually have to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 hours ago, WhoTom said: For all practical purposes, if you don't make the two-point conversion, regardless of when you attempt it, the game is over. So it's not simply a matter of delaying the deflating feeling, it's making sure that you have an opportunity to win for as much of the game as possible. Missing the 2PC early means there's no hope. Kicking the PAT keeps hope alive a while longer, along with the confidence that comes with having just scored a TD. Andy Dufresne " Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: 2...first? Like, before the TD? The wording was bothering me as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I think when you're in the 4th quarter and maybe one possession each left, yes. If there is a lot of game & possessions left, nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 14 hours ago, Ecmic82 said: Yes. Would much rather miss a 2 point conversion and be down 9 with 8 minutes left than miss a two point conversion and be down 2 with 10 seconds left. Kind of along the same lines, when you’re down by a touchdown and a field goal (ie. between 9 and 11 points) with time running out to a degree that you KNOW that if you score you’ll have to attempt an onside kick, I’d almost always kick the field goal immediately when you get into safe field goal range, and then go for the touchdown if you recover the onside kick. I think it’s easily the best strategy in that situation. But you usually see the trailing team waste time trying to get into the end zone, end up having to kick the field goal anyway, and have no time left for another possession. Agree. Often times if they kick the FG early it saves enough time on the clock and timeouts to kickoff instead of going for the onsife kick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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