Doc Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 2:27 PM, billsbackto81 said: Minnesota didn't exactly give him to us for a box of kicking tees and a couple old Don Beebe jerseys.? Expand That's not the part I was referring to.
billsbackto81 Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 2:50 PM, Doc said: That's not the part I was referring to. Expand Oh, you mean the "we" part. ? Look Doc, we all in some form live somewhat vicariously through our favorite teams, athletes and whatever figures we choose to admire. Try not to be so literal ? I was also really pissed when "we" signed Star for 10 mil a year even though I was fully aware it wasn't my money.
Doc Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 4:10 PM, billsbackto81 said: Oh, you mean the "we" part. ? Look Doc, we all in some form live somewhat vicariously through our favorite teams, athletes and whatever figures we choose to admire. Try not to be so literal ? I was also really pissed when "we" signed Star for 10 mil a year even though I was fully aware it wasn't my money. Expand Nope, not that part either. I was talking about the "slot receiver" part.
billsbackto81 Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 4:33 PM, Doc said: Nope, not that part either. I was talking about the "slot receiver" part. Expand Oh.... My bad.? I know Diggs isn't a slot guy. I just went there because by the OPs prediction we'd have a #1 WR whose posting identical numbers to our current slot WR.
Doc Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 4:40 PM, billsbackto81 said: Oh.... My bad.? I know Diggs isn't a slot guy. I just went there because by the OPs prediction we'd have a #1 WR whose posting identical numbers to our current slot WR. Expand My bad. I missed the sarcasm.
Kirby Jackson Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 I believe that re Bills will target him 8 times a game on average. If you take his career on a per target basis you are looking at: 87 catches 1,108 yards 7 TDs That’s what I’ll roll with.
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 12:15 PM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Yes. That is what that means. Are you guys serious with this? That is nothing for a #1 receiver. Over those same two years, Michael Thomas got 332, Julio Jones got 327, Deandre Hopkins got 313. Anything less than 150 targets/year for a #1 WR qualifies as not getting enough targets. Expand So not enough targets is the same as no targets? He got targeted less than other #1 receivers because the Vikings have two #1 receiver talents. I am a huge Diggs fan but trying to make out he wasn't targeted by Cousins is a bizarre take, yes. He wasn't targeted as much as some of the other top guys, sure. But he had plenty of targets how else would he have put up the yards he did?
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 5:37 PM, GunnerBill said: So not enough targets is the same as no targets? He got targeted less than other #1 receivers because the Vikings have two #1 receiver talents. I am a huge Diggs fan but trying to make out he wasn't targeted by Cousins is a bizarre take, yes. He wasn't targeted as much as some of the other top guys, sure. But he had plenty of targets how else would he have put up the yards he did? Expand Targets was like the whole reason Diggs got so upset with the Vikings. It is the literal reason he is now on the Bills. Last year he got about 100. I am super surprised that saying he didnt get enough targets is somehow an objectionable take.
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 5:44 PM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Targets was like the whole reason Diggs got so upset with the Vikings. It is the literal reason he is now on the Bills. Last year he got about 100. I am super surprised that saying he didnt get enough targets is somehow an objectionable take. Expand Because that isn't what you said.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 5:45 PM, GunnerBill said: Because that isn't what you said. Expand What did I say that is inconsistent with what I just said?
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 12:57 AM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: But he didn't get any targets with Kirk Cousins. Come on. Be serious. Expand You said this.
Stank_Nasty Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 5:37 PM, GunnerBill said: So not enough targets is the same as no targets? He got targeted less than other #1 receivers because the Vikings have two #1 receiver talents. I am a huge Diggs fan but trying to make out he wasn't targeted by Cousins is a bizarre take, yes. He wasn't targeted as much as some of the other top guys, sure. But he had plenty of targets how else would he have put up the yards he did? Expand “Wasn’t targeted as much as some of the other top guys” is an extreme understatement. Like I said in another post. He was the only wr in the top 20 for yds that had less than 100 targets(94), and the next closest was 113. he put up those yds because he had the ability to maximize his low target number and he had a real accurate qb that helped make them count as well.
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 7:51 PM, Stank_Nasty said: “Wasn’t targeted as much as some of the other top guys” is an extreme understatement. Like I said in another post. He was the only wr in the top 20 for yds that had less than 100 targets(94), and the next closest was 113. he put up those yds because he had the ability to maximize his low target number and he had a real accurate qb that helped make them count as well. Expand That still doesn't equate to getting no targets. 94 targets is still a lot of targets and as @Mr. WEO said he has had more in previous years.
Stank_Nasty Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) On 8/2/2020 at 7:55 PM, GunnerBill said: That still doesn't equate to getting no targets. 94 targets is still a lot of targets and as @Mr. WEO said he has had more in previous years. Expand It was 45th in the whole entire league. Let’s add some context. A healthy top ten talent ranked 45th in targets. No. It’s not a lot. It’s just not. factor in who we are talking about and it’s ridiculously low. I’ll concede the other years. but ya. If we need to get into being overly literal about what somebody said then sure he had more than “no targets at all” Edited August 2, 2020 by Stank_Nasty
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 8:01 PM, Stank_Nasty said: It was 45th in the whole entire league. Let’s add some context. A healthy top ten talent ranked 45th in targets. No. It’s not a lot. It’s just not. factor in who we are talking about and it’s ridiculously low. I’ll concede the other years. but ya. If we need to get into being overly literal about what somebody said then sure he had more than “no targets at all” Expand I don't accept it is ridiculously low. It is low. It isn't even close to no targets. I also think you have to consider it as a share of the Vikings pass attempts if you are looking at proper context.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 7:32 PM, GunnerBill said: You said this. Expand So your gripe is my hyperbole? Ill run my posts by you before I submit them from now on to make sure you approve of the tone and level of exaggeration.
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 8:26 PM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: So your gripe is my hyperbole? Ill run my posts by you before I submit them from now on to make sure you approve of the tone and level of exaggeration. Expand How is one supposed to know how far you mean the exaggeration? There is a million miles between no targets and the truth.
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 8:28 PM, GunnerBill said: How is one supposed to know how far you mean the exaggeration? There is a million miles between no targets and the truth. Expand Dude...come on
GunnerBill Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 8:29 PM, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Dude...come on Expand You need to come on. It was a bizarre take that you are now doing a bad job of walking back.
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