Tiberius Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On Tuesday, the U.S. Supreme Court is scheduled to hear one of the most consequential cases ever considered on executive privilege. Trump v. Vance concerns a subpoena issued by the Manhattan district attorney to President Trump’s accountants demanding the release of tax returns and other financial documents to a grand jury. What is at stake is no less than the accountability of a president to the rule of law. Mr. Trump claims that a president has “temporary absolute immunity,” meaning he cannot be criminally investigated while in office. Indeed, in oral argument before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in New York, his lawyers said that if the president were to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, he could not be investigated or indicted until after he left office. If the justices endorse this extreme view, they will make it impossible to hold this president, and all future presidents, answerable in courts for their actions. Mr. Trump’s legal position contradicts clear Supreme Court precedent. In U.S. v. Nixon, a unanimous Supreme Court ordered President Richard Nixon to turn over Oval Office tapes subpoenaed by the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox. In Clinton v. Jones, a unanimous court held that a sitting president can be forced to testify in response to a subpoena in civil litigation. Taken together, these cases make it clear that the president is not immune from investigation, whether criminal or civil, while he is in office. Mr. Trump’s claims of absolute immunity are even weaker than the assertions by Presidents Nixon and Bill Clinton. The subpoena was issued by a state, rather than a federal prosecutor. The 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution allows states a certain degree of autonomy in investigating and prosecuting crimes. Although grand jury proceedings are secret, Mr. Vance is probably also investigating whether the president’s company, the Trump Organization, falsely accounted for hush-money payments made in the run-up to the 2016 election to two women who claim they had affairs with Mr. Trump. To deny New York the right to exercise its “police powers” over serious financial crimes should give the court’s conservative justices pause. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/opinion/supreme-court-trump-executive-privilege.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) I picked up this 15 pound brisket at Sam's for 3.98$ a pound. It's in the fridge now getting a cold brine till tonight. it's gonna go on the pellet grill (competition blend) till an internal temp of 170 or so. Then its gonna get wrapped in peach paper with a splash of bourbon till an internal of 195. Gonna finish it by wrapping in a towel and putting in a cooler for an hour. After all that, gonna deliver a hot plate of brisket, beans, greens, and Mac and cheese to mom for a mother's day dinner. Edited May 9, 2020 by Chris farley 6 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: I picked up this 15 pound brisket at Sam's for 3.98$ a pound. It's in the fridge now getting a cold brine till tonight. Then it's gonna go on the pellet grill (competition blend) till an internal temp of 170 or so. Then its gonna get wrapped in peach paper with a splash of bourbon till an internal of 195. Then wrapped and put in a cooler for an hour. After all that, gonna deliver a hot plate of brisket, beans, greens, and Mac and cheese to mom for a mother's day dinner. Next time get a nice fatty piece of corned beef. Cover it in cracked black pepper and coriander before the smoke.......VIOLA! Pastrami. For more delightful culinary tips such as this listen to my podcast Tibs‘s Threads Suck. Might as Well Cook found on iHeart Radio or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts 3 9 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I picked up this 15 pound brisket at Sam's for 3.98$ a pound. It's in the fridge now getting a cold brine till tonight. it's gonna go on the pellet grill (competition blend) till an internal temp of 170 or so. Then its gonna get wrapped in peach paper with a splash of bourbon till an internal of 195. Gonna finish it by wrapping in a towel and putting in a cooler for an hour. After all that, gonna deliver a hot plate of brisket, beans, greens, and Mac and cheese to mom for a mother's day dinner. Does she also live in a van, down by the river? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I picked up this 15 pound brisket at Sam's for 3.98$ a pound. It's in the fridge now getting a cold brine till tonight. it's gonna go on the pellet grill (competition blend) till an internal temp of 170 or so. Then its gonna get wrapped in peach paper with a splash of bourbon till an internal of 195. Gonna finish it by wrapping in a towel and putting in a cooler for an hour. After all that, gonna deliver a hot plate of brisket, beans, greens, and Mac and cheese to mom for a mother's day dinner. You picked your nose, maybe. Too stupid to have an opinion on the topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You picked your nose, maybe. Too stupid to have an opinion on the topic? An opinion on a topic done to death that didn’t need its own thread? You mean that topic? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Next time get a nice fatty piece of corned beef. Cover it in cracked black pepper and coriander before the smoke.......VIOLA! Pastrami. For more delightful culinary tips such as this listen to my podcast Tibs‘s Threads Suck. Might as Well Cook found on iHeart Radio or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts What do you recommend for smoking things like bacon or sausage? I mean smoker wise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You picked your nose, maybe. Too stupid to have an opinion on the topic? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris farley said: I picked up this 15 pound brisket at Sam's for 3.98$ a pound. It's in the fridge now getting a cold brine till tonight. it's gonna go on the pellet grill (competition blend) till an internal temp of 170 or so. Then its gonna get wrapped in peach paper with a splash of bourbon till an internal of 195. Gonna finish it by wrapping in a towel and putting in a cooler for an hour. After all that, gonna deliver a hot plate of brisket, beans, greens, and Mac and cheese to mom for a mother's day dinner. You may want to target 200-205 but it really matters when tender, not the temp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: What do you recommend for smoking things like bacon or sausage? I mean smoker wise I’ve not smoked bacon or sausages. I cure those. I just smoke large cuts. I need a better smoker for sausages/bacon. Even ribs in my smaller egg is a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: I’ve not smoked bacon or sausages. I cure those. I just smoke large cuts. I need a better smoker for sausages/bacon. Even ribs in my smaller egg is a pain. Was considering an electric box for convenience. Thoughts? Really interested in trying to make my own kielbasa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: What do you recommend for smoking things like bacon or sausage? Try the links, the patties tend to fall apart once lit. I wouldn't recommend smoking bacon. The fat tends to flare up when it's lit and you could burn your beard and/or mustache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Next time get a nice fatty piece of corned beef. Cover it in cracked black pepper and coriander before the smoke.......VIOLA! Pastrami. That's what I do, but with the brisket flat. I have a recipe for a 6-day brine, then a rub of the folllowing: 1 tbsp coriander seeds 1 tbsp black peppercorns 1 tbsp mustard seeds 1 tbsp red chile flakes 1 tbsp allspice berries 1 tbsp whole cloves 1 tsp ground ginger 1 tsp ground mace 1 small cinnamon stick, crushed 2 bay leaves, broken into pieces Smoke at 250 on mahogany for 5 hours, it in foil for for the Texas crutch and raise the smoker to 300 degrees, and get the pastrami to 200 degrees internally before taking it off. It blows my mind that I can make a pastrami this good. 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Was considering an electric box for convenience. Thoughts? Really interested in trying to make my own kielbasa. I got a Traeger when they were all the rage, and it turned out to be stupid purchase because the older models only smoked. They can never get hot enough to serve as a dual purpose. Ultimately I got a Kamado grill that does everything. Well worth the investment. Home Depot puts the Vision Grill on sale and it's every bit as good as my neighbor's Big Green Egg for half the price. Edited May 9, 2020 by IDBillzFan 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You picked your nose, maybe. Too stupid to have an opinion on the topic? From your Letter To The Editor: Requiring Mr. Trump’s accountants to comply with the New York subpoena surely would not interfere with the president’s management of the Covid-19 crisis, if he has bothered to manage it at all. I've noticed a little TDS in this slander piece. It would appear that Trump is guilty for filing his taxes. You guys surely have him now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: That's what I do, but with the brisket flat. I have a recipe for a 6-day brine, then a rub of the folllowing: 1 tbsp coriander seeds 1 tbsp black peppercorns 1 tbsp mustard seeds 1 tbsp red chile flakes 1 tbsp allspice berries 1 tbsp whole cloves 1 tsp ground ginger 1 tsp ground mace 1 small cinnamon stick, crushed 2 bay leaves, broken into pieces Smoke at 250 on mahogany for 5 hours, it in foil for for the Texas crutch and raise the smoker to 300 degrees, and get the pastrami to 200 degrees internally before taking it off. It blows my mind that I can make a pastrami this good. I got a Traeger when they were all the rage, and it turned out to be stupid purchase because the older models only smoked. They can never get hot enough to serve as a dual purpose. Ultimately I got a Kamado grill that does everything. Well worth the investment. Home Depot puts the Vision Grill on sale and it's every bit as good as my neighbor's Big Green Egg for half the price. Ultimately, a smoker is all I really want. Have a grill that works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Ultimately, a smoker is all I really want. Have a grill that works fine. A gas grill, or a man's grill? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, IDBillzFan said: A gas grill, or a man's grill? Lump charcoal ONLY, brother. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: On Tuesday, the U.S. Supreme Court is scheduled to hear one of the most consequential cases ever considered on executive privilege. Trump v. Vance concerns a subpoena issued by the Manhattan district attorney to President Trump’s accountants demanding the release of tax returns and other financial documents to a grand jury. What is at stake is no less than the accountability of a president to the rule of law. Mr. Trump claims that a president has “temporary absolute immunity,” meaning he cannot be criminally investigated while in office. Indeed, in oral argument before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in New York, his lawyers said that if the president were to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, he could not be investigated or indicted until after he left office. If the justices endorse this extreme view, they will make it impossible to hold this president, and all future presidents, answerable in courts for their actions. Mr. Trump’s legal position contradicts clear Supreme Court precedent. In U.S. v. Nixon, a unanimous Supreme Court ordered President Richard Nixon to turn over Oval Office tapes subpoenaed by the Watergate special prosecutor, Archibald Cox. In Clinton v. Jones, a unanimous court held that a sitting president can be forced to testify in response to a subpoena in civil litigation. Taken together, these cases make it clear that the president is not immune from investigation, whether criminal or civil, while he is in office. Mr. Trump’s claims of absolute immunity are even weaker than the assertions by Presidents Nixon and Bill Clinton. The subpoena was issued by a state, rather than a federal prosecutor. The 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution allows states a certain degree of autonomy in investigating and prosecuting crimes. Although grand jury proceedings are secret, Mr. Vance is probably also investigating whether the president’s company, the Trump Organization, falsely accounted for hush-money payments made in the run-up to the 2016 election to two women who claim they had affairs with Mr. Trump. To deny New York the right to exercise its “police powers” over serious financial crimes should give the court’s conservative justices pause. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/opinion/supreme-court-trump-executive-privilege.html How dare Trump be given the exact same power every president before him has been given- it is why we have impeachment. I would ask for an example of a president being charged criminally while president but I already know the response- I am stupid and you do not need to show me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Next time get a nice fatty piece of corned beef. Cover it in cracked black pepper and coriander before the smoke.......VIOLA! Pastrami. For more delightful culinary tips such as this listen to my podcast Tibs‘s Threads Suck. Might as Well Cook found on iHeart Radio or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts Why thank you sir. My butcher does his own pastrami with a similar recipe.. I think I'm gonna try making my own bacon next. Any suggestions on that front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Next time get a nice fatty piece of corned beef. Cover it in cracked black pepper and coriander before the smoke.......VIOLA! Pastrami. For more delightful culinary tips such as this listen to my podcast Tibs‘s Threads Suck. Might as Well Cook found on iHeart Radio or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts ....how long to smoke it Chef?....I have a pellet smoker (electric one for smaller stuff)........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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