Buffalo_Gal Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, daz28 said: Would you happen to know what the cost of them is now? I saw on tv they were selling 10 paper masks for $30 plus s&h. Many seniors can't even afford that $3 each (plus shipping) would be a pretty good price for N95. We have a bunch (for construction use) and Hubby paid $2 each (he said "under $2" ) for them last year, so a dollar more right now? US made? Not bad. But, to the point, going to a doctor's office and buying one or two, or stopping in the pharmacy and picking one up with a script? That seems pretty easy. Edited May 10, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal
daz28 Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: $3 each (plus shipping) would be a pretty good price. We have a bunch (for construction use) and Hubby paid $2 each for them last year, so a dollar more right now? US made? Not bad. But, to the point, going to a doctor's office and buying one or two, or stopping in the pharmacy and picking one up with a script? That seems pretty easy. The ones I mentioned weren't N95, just regular paper ones, so I'm guessing N95 is much more expensive.
B-Man Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 I’ll take “Things that never happened” for $200, Alex. Kim Masters seems to think Trump and Fox News are politicizing the COVID health crisis which is hilarious when it’s literally been the Democrats and MSNBC, CNN, and other crap outlets blaming Trump for killing eleventy billion people! She went so far as to share this story: And then the two men pounded their chests and yelled, ‘THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY! WHOOOOOOO DAWGIE!’ while shooting their guns off in the air. Yup. Oh, and she left out the part where a bunch of masked grizzly bears jumped out of the forest and tried to steal her wallet … Notice it wasn't two women or a couple? Just a couple of evil men. Two women or a couple wouldn’t have been as scary or as patriarchal and besides if two women mocked her for voting Democrat that would mean the Democrats are in trouble. If two evil white dudes did it that totally fits their silly little Trump supporter stereotype. Did we mention these two guys were waving a confederate flag as well? Kidding. https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/05/10/then-they-yelled-magaaa-blue-check-journos-yarn-about-2-unmasked-male-trump-supporters-harassing-her-for-wearing-a-mask-smells-like-bs/ 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Just now, daz28 said: The ones I mentioned weren't N95, just regular paper ones, so I'm guessing N95 is much more expensive. It would have to be N95. The NIH study about masks is interesting.
daz28 Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: It would have to be N95. The NIH study about masks is interesting. I can confirm that nasty mouth bacteria and tooth decay odors certainly are not inhibited by wearing a mask. Those odors stick to your clothes, skin, and hair like glue as well. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Same here in the Inland Empire Chef. I’m hoping my staff start to come back...I think. From what I can tell many have come to prefer working from home. And I know I’ve enjoyed being able to drive on the freeways! What do you determine your ROI to be as opposed to those folks being in the office? We changed corporate policy effective May 4 to require attendance in the office for a full 40 hour paid week....prior we allowed folks to work remotely with the option of receiving 32 hours paid weekly or 40 hours if they needed to supplement their paycheck with 8 hours of PTO (there is a big productivity difference working remotely as well as necessary interaction with fellow employees being negated) ....BUT....we have retroactively reimbursed those who paid themselves 32 hour weekly with 8 hours weekly to make them whole or restored 8 hours of PTO weekly for those who took a short paycheck....as an aside, we paid out $300,000 in admin bonuses on March 13......yet the three of us at the executive level are made aware of groveling among a certain few because of returning to the May 4 "in the office" mandate......field personnel, delivery, courier, USPS personnel et al are still not allowed into admin offices....we spent $5,000 to have the building professionally sanitized and still maintain multiple sanitizing stations throughout......so what have us SOB's done wrong folks?........... Edited May 10, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy
daz28 Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: What do you determine your ROI to be as opposed to those folks being in the office? We changed corporate policy effective May 4 to require attendance in the office for a full 40 hour paid week....prior we allowed folks to work remotely with the option of receiving 32 hours paid weekly or 40 hours if they needed to supplement their paycheck with 8 hours of PTO (there is a big productivity difference working remotely as well as necessary interaction with fellow employees being negated) ....BUT....we have retroactively reimbursed those who paid themselves 32 hour weekly with 8 hours weekly to make them whole or restored 8 hours of PTO weekly for those who took a short paycheck....as an aside, we paid out $300,000 in admin bonuses on March 13......yet the three of us at the executive level are made aware of groveling among a certain few because of returning to the May 4 "in the office" mandate......field personnel, delivery, courier, USPS personnel et al are still not allowed into admin offices....we spent $5,000 to have the building professionally sanitized and still maintain multiple sanitizing stations throughout......so what have us SOB's done wrong folks?........... Since this has started, have you discovered any new ideas that can help your business if it were to say magically return to normal tomorrow? Any cost cutting measures? Possibly that some employees can get the same jobs done at home, therefore maybe allowing the office space to be smaller? Anything like that? I'm just kinda curious if this might change some of the ways business may be done going forward?
daz28 Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I have my overhead structure with a break even point of 43 million....we went to $55 million in revenues without stressing the overhead structure.....we even went to $70 million in revenues, again without stressing the same overhead structure.....we have not been near 43 mil break even in years, but I need to be prepared and have a contingency plan of cuts should the need arise....that's what I get paid for and I'm not about to sully a 44+ year financial career for not being prepared.....do I have to fight with my other two co-executives about spending+ in a good year?...of course.....thankfully I usually win......I'm fiscally conservative and have built a formidable "rainy day fund" in general but more so in the construction industry because of significant swings.....shrinking my office space in lieu of employees working from home is non-sequitor for me...they try to tell me they are equally effective, but this isn't my first rodeo.....my space cost me $12 per square foot.....no way I get the same ROI for employees working from home to save on space......they claim to be equally productive, but I don't buy it......and I lose with their inability to interact face to face with employees in the office versus what they perceive to be equal value remotely.... I agree, one can't slack off, because it will be too noticeable with all the people around him working hard. People are def more honest when you are watching them. I guess if there was a productivity measure, you could do it, though. The construction business may be real slow moving forward. Heck, there's gonna be mass evictions. Best of luck to you moving forward. Thanks for reply. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, daz28 said: I agree, one can't slack off, because it will be too noticeable with all the people around him working hard. People are def more honest when you are watching them. I guess if there was a productivity measure, you could do it, though. The construction business may be real slow moving forward. Heck, there's gonna be mass evictions. Best of luck to you moving forward. Thanks for reply. ...I appreciate your insight and objective assessment....good show bro..... 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 How can the airline industry open? I know the right wingers want to blame the government for this pandemic Depression, but the air lines won’t open until people feel safe
RochesterRob Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How can the airline industry open? I know the right wingers want to blame the government for this pandemic Depression, but the air lines won’t open until people feel safe The airlines mostly serves business. If they did not they would have gone the way of the dinosaur 40 years ago as they were looking for bailouts and anti-trust considerations (exemptions) for mergers. Edited May 10, 2020 by RochesterRob
Reality Check Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: How can the airline industry open? I know the right wingers want to blame the government for this pandemic Depression, but the air lines won’t open until people feel safe What pandemic?
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Reality Check said: Those people for the most part have a poor lifestyle and terrible diet heavy in sugar. The country should not be locked down because those people can't control themselves. Given the real tyranny and hypocrisy that has revealed itself, I find that the people who now want to control everyone else in totality can't even control themselves. The irony alone will kill more people than the virus itself. it’s not fair to throw all those who suffer from chronic diseases into the ‘they chose this lifestyle’ category. Genetics has a huge say in a persons health. There are skinny people who diet, but still have high blood pressure. Type 2 diabetes has a big genetic component to it, and people who suffer from type 1 are either born with it or develop it out of the blue in childhood. 1 1
B-Man Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 EMBRACE THE HEALING POWER OF “AND:” Are Endless Lockdowns the Result of Malice or Stupidity? IT WAS MEANT TO BE, AND SOLD AS, A SHORT-TERM STOPGAP, NOT A WAY OF LIFE: 10 Reasons To End The Lockdown Now. 5
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 51 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: it’s not fair to throw all those who suffer from chronic diseases into the ‘they chose this lifestyle’ category. Genetics has a huge say in a persons health. There are skinny people who diet, but still have high blood pressure. Type 2 diabetes has a big genetic component to it, and people who suffer from type 1 are either born with it or develop it out of the blue in childhood. True but lifestyle is the number 1 indicator of most of our ailments. And unless you have multiple pre existing conditions then unless you are old you are 99.9%safe. 1
Reality Check Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, GETTOTHE50 said: it’s not fair to throw all those who suffer from chronic diseases into the ‘they chose this lifestyle’ category. Genetics has a huge say in a persons health. There are skinny people who diet, but still have high blood pressure. Type 2 diabetes has a big genetic component to it, and people who suffer from type 1 are either born with it or develop it out of the blue in childhood. Lay off the sugar and stop snacking between meals. Avoid food that causes inflammation. It's not about being fair, but protecting yourself with discipline. We all have a genetic problem when we abuse ourselves, or let others do it instead. 3
Azalin Posted May 11, 2020 Posted May 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Lay off the sugar and stop snacking between meals. Avoid food that causes inflammation. It's not about being fair, but protecting yourself with discipline. We all have a genetic problem when we abuse ourselves, or let others do it instead. That's a gross oversimplification. You may not mean to be, but it seems that you're fine telling everyone who suffer diabetes (of any kind), respiratory issues, or cardiovascular disease, "oh well, you asked for it". 2 1
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