Magox Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Perspective Don't let the media fool you with their panic porn. I'm hoping soon they will keep a national database of average age of newly confirmed infected COVID case. This would now be a very important metric to gauge. Texas and Florida seem to be providing some info on it. My hunch is that everywhere the average age is plummeting. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Magox said: Perspective Don't let the media fool you with their panic porn. I'm hoping soon they will keep a national database of average age of newly confirmed infected COVID case. This would now be a very important metric to gauge. Texas and Florida seem to be providing some info on it. My hunch is that everywhere the average age is plummeting. your overall point may be true but any graph/numbers that are based on the whole country, and not regions, is useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Cinga said: Looks like Israel has found a cure... https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2020/05/israel-announces-antibody-that-neutralizes-coronavirus-even-amongst-infected/?fbclid=IwAR2fwXBaW2MgzNRyHOWkQJ22L8YrBosFkFbcUmv7khBkxhwr-RapO-JNVc8 So confident, they have lifted all mobility restrictions in their country now Finally - Trump can take pride in sharing his COVID intelligence with Israel back in November 2019 - his magnificent foresight finally paid off. ? Meanwhile, 122,067 Americans have died because Trump denied. ? Thank you Trump voters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 38 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: your overall point may be true but any graph/numbers that are based on the whole country, and not regions, is useless I’ve been providing state based data. And they aren’t useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, BillStime said: Finally - Trump can take pride in sharing his COVID intelligence with Israel back in November 2019 - his magnificent foresight finally paid off. ? Meanwhile, 122,067 Americans have died because Trump denied. ? Thank you Trump voters! Yup, NAZI's used that as well to try and convince. Goebbels is most often crediting with the saying, "repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth" Democrats should be proud of carrying on that work through you on this board, and Pelosi on the Hill with her wrap up smears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Magox said: I’ve been providing state based data. And they aren’t useless. Ask @GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Magox said: I’ve been providing state based data. And they aren’t useless. how in the world are total us hospital numbers relevant to anything? No one is suggesting the entire hospital system is overwhelmed, but specific regions, which wouldn’t show up in total us numbers. im not saying I disagree with you, but these total hospitalization numbers are dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Bills time — “ but Trump knew in November” ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cinga said: Yup, NAZI's used that as well to try and convince. Goebbels is most often crediting with the saying, "repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth" Democrats should be proud of carrying on that work through you on this board, and Pelosi on the Hill with her wrap up smears Yup - if only Trump shared his intelligence with Governors in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, BillStime said: Yup - if only Trump shared his intelligence with Governors in November. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, BillStime said: Yup - if only Trump shared his intelligence with Governors in November. Again, that still doesn't make your lie the truth, not to the people who can know better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, B-Man said: Bills time — “ but Trump knew in November” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Nation recovers, NYC won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Deaths keep marching on its downward path. Some of our ghoulish posters will be disappointed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Crayola64 said: how in the world are total us hospital numbers relevant to anything? No one is suggesting the entire hospital system is overwhelmed, but specific regions, which wouldn’t show up in total us numbers. im not saying I disagree with you, but these total hospitalization numbers are dumb It’s a data point. There is no singular data point that will fully capture what is happening. As we enter into new phases, new means of testing, new therapies etc etc data points that we view evolve. I have posted on just about every relevant data point imaginable, this is simply an overall viewpoint from a few miles up in the sky that gives a panoramic look at hospitalizations. No one claimed it to be the end-all-be-all but it is a good indicator that less people are being hospitalized and going into ICUs in the country. Not sure what you found so offensive about that stat. Almost as if you were upset to read it. An odd choice to respond to. In any case, This indicates two things, That younger people are getting hospitalized and getting discharged and that therapeutics are more effective than before. I would expect this trend to continue. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Magox said: Deaths keep marching on its downward path. Some of our ghoulish posters will be disappointed Who is this strawman poster who would be against fewer deaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, shoshin said: Who is this strawman poster who would be against fewer deaths? You are awfully naive 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, shoshin said: Who is this strawman poster who would be against fewer deaths? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) some thoughts on the accuracy of PCR testing being used by the "experts" this goes to the fundamentals of the PCR technology on which the tests are based It does not address the total lack of standards and quality control in manufacturing he various test kits https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/ · “Human beings are full of retrovirus. We don’t know if it is hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands. We’ve only recently started to look for them. But they’ve never killed anybody before. People have always survived retroviruses.” · “The first thing to know is that the test is not binary. In fact, I don’t think there are any tests for infectious disease that are positive or negative. What they do is they take some kind of a continuum and they arbitrarily say this point is the difference between positive and negative.” · “PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.” Edited June 22, 2020 by spartacus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, spartacus said: some thoughts on the accuracy of PCR testing being used by the "experts" this goes to the fundamentals of the PCR technology on which the tests are based It does not address the total lack of standards and quality control in manufacturing he various test kits https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/ · “Human beings are full of retrovirus. We don’t know if it is hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands. We’ve only recently started to look for them. But they’ve never killed anybody before. People have always survived retroviruses.” · “The first thing to know is that the test is not binary. In fact, I don’t think there are any tests for infectious disease that are positive or negative. What they do is they take some kind of a continuum and they arbitrarily say this point is the difference between positive and negative.” · “PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.” Let's see if any of your cadre corrects you on the science. 38 minutes ago, Magox said: You are awfully naive You don't have to put everything through a political lens before you draw a conclusion. Never trust a consistent narrative. That's the one with the most fiction and least reality. Edited June 22, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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