aristocrat Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-highlights-serious-accounting-error-regarding-covid-deaths/ 1
HappyDays Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-highlights-serious-accounting-error-regarding-covid-deaths/ The study quoted in this article was pulled by John Hopkins for having inaccurate data. The study claims to use CDC data to prove that there is no evidence of excess deaths in the USA this year. I find this hard to believe considering the CDC has directly said the exact opposite: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm#:~:text=conduct all analyses.-,From January 26%2C 2020%2C through October 3%2C 2020%2C,excess) (Figure 1). From January 26, 2020, through October 3, 2020, an estimated 299,028 more persons than expected have died in the United States. That data shows that, if anything, we have underestimated covid deaths this year. 3
Warcodered Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-highlights-serious-accounting-error-regarding-covid-deaths/ https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19 Edited November 28, 2020 by Warcodered 2
TBBills Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 36 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-highlights-serious-accounting-error-regarding-covid-deaths/ Get your fake ***** out of here you racist.
HappyDays Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 Here's another chart that shows the same trend: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores?tab=chart&stackMode=absolute&time=earliest..2020-10-18&country=~USA®ion=World So every week since the pandemic began, the USA has seen anywhere from 5% to 45% more deaths in a given week than would be expected in a normal year. Unfortunately I expect the downward trend on this chart to be reversed when it's updated over the next couple months.
aristocrat Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 3 hours ago, TBBills said: Get your fake ***** out of here you racist. so this is gonna be your thing? Just call anyone who disagrees with you a racist? Despite having zero evidence of it. This is the behavior of immature self unsure people. You need to get out of your comfort zone 1
TBBills Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: so this is gonna be your thing? Just call anyone who disagrees with you a racist? Despite having zero evidence of it. This is the behavior of immature self unsure people. You need to get out of your comfort zone Nope, just you with your propaganda bull####.
Big Blitz Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: That data shows that, if anything, we have underestimated covid deaths this year. 198K of that 299K is attributed to Covid. Meaning that something else killed 100K plus people. Lockdowns killed. Period.
Big Blitz Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) And we've peaked and survived and were not overwhelmed while handling both Covid AND usual patient load.... I believe I said 100 million infected last week...the CDC can confirm.... And it looks like that is what's going to begin in the next 2 weeks.... Edited November 29, 2020 by Big Blitz
TBBills Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 Actually hospitals are overwhelmed... Maybe actually know someone who works in one. 1
Commsvet11 Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 38 minutes ago, TBBills said: Actually hospitals are overwhelmed... Maybe actually know someone who works in one. This is false.
TBBills Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Commsvet11 said: This is false. Prove it... B.c of the talk from the hospital staff themselves is they are. Over 90,000 people in the hospital alone just from Covid right now. Most ever during the pandemic, thanks Trump. Edited November 29, 2020 by TBBills
Commsvet11 Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 43 minutes ago, TBBills said: Prove it... B.c of the talk from the hospital staff themselves is they are. Well I work at a large hospital, I’m part of a clinical staff. Since you based your declaration on talk from some hospital staff, my words should be enough proof for you.
TBBills Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Commsvet11 said: Well I work at a large hospital, I’m part of a clinical staff. Since you based your declaration on talk from some hospital staff, my words should be enough proof for you. Hard to believe when I get different stories talking to friends and family that work in same fields. Didn't realize you are a puppet name, you will be ignored for your lies. Edited November 29, 2020 by TBBills
Commsvet11 Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, TBBills said: Hard to believe when I get different stories talking to friends and family that work in same fields. Let me try and connect a common theme from these stories. Short staff, long hours, packed ER, short supplies? That is every day life in healthcare. Not just when covid hit.
shoshin Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 On 11/27/2020 at 11:07 AM, Big Blitz said: Data low info bot can't explain. Kansas U sure has influence. I bet they could reverse their conclusion and stop Covid cold!
SoTier Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 19 hours ago, Big Blitz said: 198K of that 299K is attributed to Covid. Meaning that something else killed 100K plus people. Lockdowns killed. Period. In areas where the medical systems were -- or are -- being overwhelmed by covid-19 hospitalizations, people who suffer from other life-threatening illnesses or traumas were/are likely to not receive the same quality of care in as timely a manner as they would have received in normal times. That undoubtedly contributed to many of the excess deaths. Other people with chronic conditions may have suffered symptoms that were warning signs of deteriorating health but choose not to see a doctor or go to an emergency room because of their fear of contracting Covid-19, so their deaths would contribute to the total of "unexpected" deaths. I'm not sure if suicides or deaths from drugs/alcohol have increased, but I would expect that those would increase as the stress from the continuing pandemic have had negative effects on mental health.
Walking Tall Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) On 11/29/2020 at 2:52 AM, TBBills said: Actually hospitals are overwhelmed... Maybe actually know someone who works in one. I do and they aren’t. Not in my area. Edited December 1, 2020 by Beast
Big Blitz Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 You are never ever ever going to convince me how utterly ridiculous it is that an outdoor sport requires you to be in masks on the sideline that you are touching and grabbing all game then touching and grabbing other things (remember we were told to wipe down everything I guess not anymore) isn't 1000000000000000x worse then not wearing a mask. Every time Pete Carroll is on camera he is grabbing the front of the mask to yell at someone. This is so incredibly f...ing stupid. 1
SoTier Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 16 hours ago, Beast said: I do and they aren’t. Not in my area. The hospitals in Chautauqua County also aren't overwhelmed, but if you travel 30 miles north to Erie County, all elective surgeries are banned because of the rising hospitalizations there, and the reality is that our three small community hospitals could be easily be overwhelmed if hospitalizations in their immediate areas rose by 20-50 in a week or so. 1
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