Buffalo Bills Fan Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Just now, B-Man said: Most people do. Unless you are referring to yourself as "no one" Yet you respond without knowing what the articles truly say.............the sign of a fool. . Always read you're post man. Might disagree with some but most, they have great content. Always try to learn from them. Thanks sharing stuff with us man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Always read you're post man. Might disagree with some but most, they have great content. Always try to learn from them. Thanks sharing stuff with us man. Thanks..................................however, prepare to be insulted by a small mind. China greeting WHO on their arrival: Edited July 11, 2020 by B-Man 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, B-Man said: Most people do. Unless you are referring to yourself as "no one" Yet you respond without knowing what the articles truly say.............the sign of a fool. . I read a lot of your stuff. Unfortunately, I also read your Bill Slime quotes. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: The two things worry the most is how long antibody last. There is some saying might not last long. Well see future topic on this. Mutation. Seems like the virus trying to be more infectious and less deadly. Hopefully stays this route and be less deadly for everyone. But worrys me if does something different in mutating. Ya our rural area has lots of test and roughly been 1-4 cases per day. Rural area. Highest I think 5 (for one day)for NY witch is good. But then see the border only have about 700 tests 5 miles away only like 26 cases. Lot's less tests. I'm confused lol. Rural but but bigger town then one here in NY. I suppose the antibodies at some point begin to weaken as if it were on a slipping spectrum. I don’t think they just disappear from one day to the other but the effectiveness of the antibodies most likely do hit an inflection point of resistance. Previous coronaviruses antibodies lasted between a year or two before they meaningfully weakened. With that said, the immune system develops more defenses. Everyone talks about the antibodies but the immune system when hit with a virus like the corona virus also replicates other defenses similar to antibodies. T cells being one of them. The antibodies protect against viruses before they attack the cells. But even if they get past that and attack the cells, T cells that were replicated from a previous COVID-19 infection are then replicated to fight the virus from within the cell. These T cells attack the virus once the virus penetrates the cells and help destroy the virus before they infect other cells. This is why there seems to be growing evidence that even past coronaviruses and virus infections produced these T cells that are helping serve as a defense causing asymptomatic to mild symptoms. This is also most likely on a spectrum. Defenses ranging from effectively attacking the virus so much so that they don’t even register as a COVID-19 infection, to an asymptomatic infection to a mild infection to more serious ones. Think of it as a couple lines of defense. One defense that is outside of your home being the antibodies and the other being inside the home being the T cells. I wouldn’t fret too much about the antibodies weakening, even if it did after a short time period the T cells would be there and most likely the T cells replicated from COVID-19 would even serve as a better defense than the T cells replicated from previous coronaviruses. Edited July 11, 2020 by Magox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Mutation. Seems like the virus trying to be more infectious and less deadly. Hopefully stays this route and be less deadly for everyone. But worrys me if does something different in mutating. Hey, look for the silver lining. Maybe it will mutate so much that humans will eventually only become carriers and the only species that dies from it are mosquitos. Then no more Covid and no more malaria. Win win! 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Magox said: I suppose the antibodies at some point begin to weaken as if it were on a slipping spectrum. I don’t think they just disappear from one day to the other but the effectiveness of the antibodies most likely do hit an inflection point of resistance. Previous coronaviruses antibodies lasted between a year or two before they meaningfully weakened. With that said, the immune system develops more defenses. Everyone talks about the antibodies but the immune system when hit with a virus like the corona virus also replicates other defenses similar to antibodies. T cells being one of them. The antibodies protect against viruses before they attack the cells. But even if they get past that and attack the cells, T cells that were replicated from a previous COVID-19 infection are then replicated to fight the virus from within the cell. These T cells attack the virus once the virus penetrates the cells and help destroy the virus before they infect other cells. This is why there seems to be growing evidence that even past coronaviruses and virus infections produced these T cells that are helping serve as a defense causing asymptomatic to mild symptoms. This is also most likely on a spectrum. Defenses ranging from effectively attacking the virus so much so that they don’t even register as a COVID-19 infection, to an asymptomatic infection to a mild infection to more serious ones. Think of it as a couple lines of defense. One defense that is outside of your home being the antibodies and the other being inside the home being the T cells. I wouldn’t fret too much about the antibodies weakening, even if it did after a short time period the T cells would be there and most likely the T cells replicated from COVID-19 would even serve as a better defense than the T cells replicated from previous coronaviruses. Edited 4 minutes ago by Magox Right thanks Magox. Totally understand what you are saying. Everything makes sense. Thank you and very helpful post. Didn't study antibodies and other things hell not much of human and all of this stuff besides this year when corona came out. Try to learn everything quickly and efficient as possible. It's pretty complex. But there are those helped me, you many others here, youtube and other places. Thank you. Everything making sense. 23 minutes ago, snafu said: Hey, look for the silver lining. Maybe it will mutate so much that humans will eventually only become carriers and the only species that dies from it are mosquitos. Then no more Covid and no more malaria. Win win! lol maybe Lyme disease (all ticks) can go away as well (mosquitos can go away). Huge win lol Edited July 11, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Rays catcher Kevan Smith reveals he's got weird looks for wearing mask while in Florida 28 minutes ago, B-Man said: Most people do. Unless you are referring to yourself as "no one" Yet you respond without knowing what the articles truly say.............the sign of a fool. . No one reads your schitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Right thanks Magox. Totally understand what you are saying. Everything makes sense. Thank you and very helpful post. Didn't study antibodies and other things hell not much of human and all of this stuff besides this year when corona came out. Try to learn everything quickly and efficient as possible. It's pretty complex. But there are those helped me, you many others here, youtube and other places. Thank you. Everything making sense. lol maybe Lyme disease (all ticks) can go away as well (mosquitos can go away). Huge win lol I edited my post slightly to amend a few of the things I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Magox said: I edited my post slightly to amend a few of the things I said. All good fixed my post and reread again. Thanks man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, snafu said: Hey, look for the silver lining. Maybe it will mutate so much that humans will eventually only become carriers and the only species that dies from it are mosquitos. Then no more Covid and no more malaria. Win win! THat's the type of out-of-the-box thinking that 2020 needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Took 70,000 daily cases to get Trump to wear a mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 God help all who think the sock mask is going to save them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, realtruelove said: God help all who think the sock mask is going to save them. karma is going to love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, realtruelove said: God help all who think the sock mask is going to save them. Yep, unless it's a M-95 mask, and even then, there is no guarantee you won't get the virus. It gives a sense of safety, nothing more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 45 minutes ago, realtruelove said: God help all who think the sock mask is going to save them. My mask helps you. Are you still not getting that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, shoshin said: My mask helps you. Are you still not getting that? I get that and I wear a mask for that reason, however, the mask is only one of many defenses a person has in their quiver. Have you seen some of the masks people are wearing and how they are wearing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, realtruelove said: I get that and I wear a mask for that reason, however, the mask is only one of many defenses a person has in their quiver. Have you seen some of the masks people are wearing and how they are wearing them? Of course. Some people wear them poorly but the majority that I see look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Masks help, I wear them out of courtesy more so than anything. With that said they are overrated, they help but they aren’t anything close to being THE solution to limit the spread. I’ve brought up the example a few times, Los Angeles instituted the mandatory mask Ordinance nearly a month ago. They didn’t open up their economy as quickly as other places, they have a lot more leftists which presumably are more compliant mask wearers and remember the media and their followers have all told us that the protests didn’t spread the virus (lol) and yet they have one of the worst viral outbreaks if not worst in the country. So clearly we know masks aren’t THE solution to limit the spread. The toothpaste is out the tube for these cities with outbreaks, not much can be done at this point for them, it’s just going to have to burnout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Nationally, the number of patients in ICU has barely budged and the % of patients in ICU as a % of overall hospitalizations is WAY down. less than 4% of US hospital capacity is currently covid. 7% of baseline ICU is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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