Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Billl said: Not all zeroes are created equal. Scoring zero points and punting is much better than fumbling or throwing a pick six. This is pretty basic stuff. You know this. It’s embarrassing to pretend that Josh belonged on the same field as Watson. Read any other team’s message board. Allen is a punchline. Okay troll. Obviously a punt is better than a pick six. Josh Allen didn’t throw one though. Allen had a good first half that probably should have resulted in a larger lead if his WR catches a perfect pass in the endzone. Yes, he made mistakes, but saying he didn’t belong on the same field in a 3 point playoff loss ? Talk about embarrassing . He was far from flawless, but counting almost INTs is just pure nonsense . Enjoy the board. You’ll find a few like minded friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I'd take allen for sure, especially for the playoffs vs ravens, watson could only muster 7 pts, allen almost led them to 24 pts vs that sting ravens D, no way houston survives next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I certainly think it is possible. I see no reason to believe it won't happen. Anything is possible. It is possible I become the Bills QB next season and win the SB. Super crazy unlikely, but possible. The reasons to doubt it. at least a little, are his entire football career. Hope springs eternal, but I am a logical person which dooms me to pay attention to my head more than my heart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: So not all point totals are equal? Awesome. Whose 19 points were worth more at the end of regulation? That’s a brutal take. Hey, all those almost turnovers by Josh Allen really did his team in. He’s a punchline ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Hey, all those almost turnovers by Josh Allen really did his team in. He’s a punchline ! Boy they sure should have. Thank goodness the Texans D couldn't take advantage, I think the Bills D scores at least once in those situations. Edited January 5, 2020 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, CodeMonkey said: Anything is possible. It is possible I become the Bills QB next season and win the SB. Super crazy unlikely, but possible. The reasons to doubt it. at least a little, are his entire football career. Hope springs eternal, but I am a logical person which dooms me to pay attention to my head more than my heart. See you in a couple more years then after the inevitable failure and restart of the process. What will you do in the meantime ? Allen is going to be the Bills QB next year. Why bother watching ? Is it like looking at a car wreck and you just can’t help yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Hey, all those almost turnovers by Josh Allen really did his team in. He’s a punchline ! I see that he had no response to the question about Watson hitting Neal between the numbers with nothing but end zone in front of him. Again, the agendas some people have are insane. Call it straight up. Allen wasn’t good enough. And his group of playmakers didn’t bail him out any of the 3-4 times they had quality chances to. 1 minute ago, CodeMonkey said: Boy they sure should have. Thank goodness the Texans D couldn't take advantage, I think the Bills D scores at least once in those situations. Nope. Had 2 chances. Didn’t cash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Billl said: Not all zeroes are created equal. Scoring zero points and punting is much better than fumbling or throwing a pick six. This is pretty basic stuff. You know this. It’s embarrassing to pretend that Josh belonged on the same field as Watson. Read any other team’s message board. Allen is a punchline. need a tissue ? who spends time on other message boards ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, CodeMonkey said: Boy they sure should have. Thank goodness the Texans D couldn't take advantage, I think the Bills D scores at least once in those situations. The Bills D recovered a fumble but failed to return it for a TD when they absolutely could have. They gave up 19 points in a quarter and a half and failed to get Watson on the ground when he ( and most every other QB) was dead to rights. What makes you so confident in this , when it hasn’t happened all season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: So not all point totals are equal? Awesome. Whose 19 points were worth more at the end of regulation? That’s a brutal take. You’re right, dude. All drives that end without scores are created equal. It makes no difference whether you pin the other team at their one yard line with a punt or if you fumble the ball and set up the other team with a short field. It was our privilege to watch Josh MFing Allen run around like a chicken with his head cut off for three and a half hours yesterday hitting defenders in the hands with passes, fumbling the ball without getting touched, lateraling the ball wildly to nobody, unintentionally backwards to knock the team out of FG range, etc. THAT is what franchise QBs do. Whatever deal Mahomes signs, add 5% and ink Josh the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Boatdrinks said: See you in a couple more years then after the inevitable failure and restart of the process. What will you do in the meantime ? Allen is going to be the Bills QB next year. Why bother watching ? Is it like looking at a car wreck and you just can’t help yourself? He certainty is, the Bills are all-in on him for sure. They have no choice, and besides, he is not a bad QB. IMO he just isn't, and probably won't be, a great QB. But as I said above, hope springs eternal., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: Anything is possible. It is possible I become the Bills QB next season and win the SB. Super crazy unlikely, but possible. The reasons to doubt it. at least a little, are his entire football career. Hope springs eternal, but I am a logical person which dooms me to pay attention to my head more than my heart. Do you agree Josh improved significantly year 1 to year 2? If the answer is no then we will never agree. If the answer is yes then the question is why do you presume he can't take another leap? It is not certain he does. He could stall like Mariota and Winston did at this point. He could regress like Trubisky. Or he could keep growing. All scenarios are on the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, CodeMonkey said: He certainty is, the Bills are all-in on him for sure. They have no choice, and besides, he is not a bad QB. IMO he just isn't, and probably won't be, a great QB. But as I said above, hope springs eternal., Cool. You can hope , I’ll just see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Can I change mine to Watson? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Billl said: You’re right, dude. All drives that end without scores are created equal. It makes no difference whether you pin the other team at their one yard line with a punt or if you fumble the ball and set up the other team with a short field. It was our privilege to watch Josh MFing Allen run around like a chicken with his head cut off for three and a half hours yesterday hitting defenders in the hands with passes, fumbling the ball without getting touched, lateraling the ball wildly to nobody, unintentionally backwards to knock the team out of FG range, etc. THAT is what franchise QBs do. Whatever deal Mahomes signs, add 5% and ink Josh the following year. Oh good. Another emotionally unhinged character that is unable to discuss Allen without having a tantrum. Address the points of discussion or move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Do you agree Josh improved significantly year 1 to year 2? If the answer is no then we will never agree. If the answer is yes then the question is why do you presume he can't take another leap? It is not certain he does. He could stall like Mariota and Winston did at this point. He could regress like Trubisky. Or he could keep growing. All scenarios are on the table. He certainly improved. Far fewer stupid plays and will slide now are probably the two biggest. I expect him to continue to improve, he certainly has the personality and work ethic. But again, based on his lifes work in football, IMO greatness is a big long shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Do you agree Josh improved significantly year 1 to year 2? If the answer is no then we will never agree. If the answer is yes then the question is why do you presume he can't take another leap? It is not certain he does. He could stall like Mariota and Winston did at this point. He could regress like Trubisky. Or he could keep growing. All scenarios are on the table. Not many QBs take a step forward in year 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, CodeMonkey said: He certainly improved. Far fewer stupid plays and will slide now are probably the two biggest. I expect him to continue to improve, he certainly has the personality and work ethic. But again, based on his lifes work in football, IMO greatness is a big long shot. Greatness is a long shot for anyone. I always thought Josh was a long shot to be a top end QB but had that potential. I like the direction he is headed. At some point he will plateau. I just don't see a reason to think we have yet reached that point. If we have then he is not our guy. I am just not sure we have.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: He certainty is, the Bills are all-in on him for sure. They have no choice, and besides, he is not a bad QB. IMO he just isn't, and probably won't be, a great QB. But as I said above, hope springs eternal., But he will still get the 100+ million dollar contract, that contract alone will put this team at a huge disadvantage for what Allen brings to the table as a QB. Same with White when he gets his 88mil, people will not be loving him so much when he has 3 INT's at the end of the season and cannot shut down a high end WR. We will be like the Washington fans trying to figure out why we paid a zone CB like Revis. 3 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: He certainly improved. Far fewer stupid plays and will slide now are probably the two biggest. I expect him to continue to improve, he certainly has the personality and work ethic. But again, based on his lifes work in football, IMO greatness is a big long shot. He made enough ultra dumb plays in the last 3 Qtr's of that game last night to last a season. To be honest he played so bad that I'm convinced he had to be playing with a concussion, so so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Not many QBs take a step forward in year 3... Matt Ryan. Matt Stafford. Cam Newton. Just off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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